Re: [Alsa-devel] plughw or hw?

2001-12-19 Thread Paul Davis
>As I don't own a Hammerfall card I'd like to know, how windows presents >your hammerfall hardware? How do you use the features of the Hammerfall >with Windows. It's certainly possible somehow to do multitrack recording >with windows, isn't it? They probably live of windows user, not of linux >sou

Re: [Alsa-devel] plughw or hw?

2001-12-19 Thread Alexander Ehlert
Hi Paul, > Windows doesn't have ALSA. they have a two-bit device driver system > that isn't capable of half the subtlety of ALSA. as a result, they > don't have issues like "there is a PCM device corresponding to the > first 4 channels of a 26 channel card that I'd like you to use". As I don't o

Re: [Alsa-devel] plughw or hw?

2001-12-17 Thread Jaroslav Kysela
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Jozef Kosoru wrote: > > why are you trying > > to sidestep their work by using a hack like "plughw:N,0" ? > > ..so what I have to do? 'default'?, or user has to type > correct 'magic world' to the line edit? How does user would > know WHAT he has to type if he wants to us

Re: [Alsa-devel] plughw or hw?

2001-12-17 Thread Paul Davis
>Have you ever used/seen some good audio application in MacOS >or M$ Win world? Each application from this category has >a config dialog for these things. ...or do you think that >musicians have to be programmers or administrators? Windows doesn't have ALSA. they have a two-bit device driver syst

Re: [Alsa-devel] plughw or hw?

2001-12-17 Thread Jozef Kosoru
> >I think that it's nonsense to force average users to study the > >alsa driver architecture and learn a format of the configuration > >file (they just don't know about the existence of such file) to > > "average" users have 1 sound card. "default" will work for them. NO! I mean average user fr

Re: [Alsa-devel] plughw or hw?

2001-12-17 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Paul Davis wrote: > >I think that it's nonsense to force average users to study the > >alsa driver architecture and learn a format of the configuration > >file (they just don't know about the existence of such file) to > > "average" users have 1 sound card. "default" will

Re: [Alsa-devel] plughw or hw?

2001-12-17 Thread Paul Davis
>I think that it's nonsense to force average users to study the >alsa driver architecture and learn a format of the configuration >file (they just don't know about the existence of such file) to "average" users have 1 sound card. "default" will work for them. >perform such trivial task as to poi

Re: [Alsa-devel] plughw or hw?

2001-12-17 Thread Jozef Kosoru
> >> >Could you explain to me how to do the following: the user has a TV capture > >> >card with audio-out that is plugged in into one of the sound cards > >> >installed in the system. I need to ask user which card and which input > >> >s/he plugged the TV audio into. How do I do that ? (Prefera

Re: [Alsa-devel] plughw or hw?

2001-12-17 Thread Paul Davis
>> >Could you explain to me how to do the following: the user has a TV capture >> >card with audio-out that is plugged in into one of the sound cards >> >installed in the system. I need to ask user which card and which input >> >s/he plugged the TV audio into. How do I do that ? (Preferably withou

Re: [Alsa-devel] plughw or hw?

2001-12-16 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, Paul Davis wrote: > >Could you explain to me how to do the following: the user has a TV capture > >card with audio-out that is plugged in into one of the sound cards > >installed in the system. I need to ask user which card and which input > >s/he plugged the TV audio into.

Re: [Alsa-devel] plughw or hw?

2001-12-16 Thread Paul Davis
>Could you explain to me how to do the following: the user has a TV capture >card with audio-out that is plugged in into one of the sound cards >installed in the system. I need to ask user which card and which input >s/he plugged the TV audio into. How do I do that ? (Preferably without the >user

Re: [Alsa-devel] plughw or hw?

2001-12-16 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, Paul Davis wrote: > >What is a difference between an ASCII identifier "plughw:0,0" > >and "hw:0,0"? And what the output of 'aplay -L' means? > > a "hw" device is totally constrained by the hardware characteristics > of the underlying audio interface. if the device has 26 c

Re: [Alsa-devel] plughw or hw?

2001-12-16 Thread Paul Davis
>What is a difference between an ASCII identifier "plughw:0,0" >and "hw:0,0"? And what the output of 'aplay -L' means? a "hw" device is totally constrained by the hardware characteristics of the underlying audio interface. if the device has 26 channels, then it must be used with 26 channels; if i

[Alsa-devel] plughw or hw?

2001-12-16 Thread Jozef Kosoru
Hi! I'm porting my application from ALSA-0.5 to ALSA-0.9 and I don't understand ASCII identifier of the PCM handle which is a parameter of the snd_pcm_open function. I'd like to implement an user friendly sound card configuration dialog. This is a screenshot of the previous one: http://