Re: Xinetd not starting amanda

2003-03-12 Thread Adam Smith
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:02:15PM -0500, Gene Heskett said: > It appears you have everything covered with the possible exception > of the .amandahosts file. If you configured with it, then the > allowable hosts must be listed in this file. Its discussed in the > docs. Also, make sure that t

Re: Xinetd not starting amanda

2003-03-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wed March 12 2003 22:01, Adam Smith wrote: >On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:10:47PM -0600, Rebecca Pakish Crum > said: > >I am having some similar problems relating to this thread, in > regards to loading the three services below, and running 'amcheck > ' on FreeBSD 5.0. I have installed both > aman

Re: ACLs

2003-03-12 Thread Adam Smith
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:30:14AM -0500, Mitch Collinsworth said: > > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Adam Smith wrote: > > > On FreeBSD 5.0 with UFS2 + ACLs, what is my best method for backing up my > > ACLs along with my files? > > > > I am only experimenting with Amanda at this point, but it seems to us

Re: Xinetd not starting amanda

2003-03-12 Thread Adam Smith
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:10:47PM -0600, Rebecca Pakish Crum said: I am having some similar problems relating to this thread, in regards to loading the three services below, and running 'amcheck ' on FreeBSD 5.0. I have installed both amanda-client-2.4.3, and amanda-server-2.4.3. > Can you do a

Re: amrecover file based backup and rewind

2003-03-12 Thread Jean-Louis Martineau
Hi Gregor, You can set your tape drive to 'file:/data/Daily/backup/Daily03' in amrecover. amrecover will not be able to use your changer if you use chg-multi, this bug was fixed a few days after 2.4.4 was release. You can a try a snapshot from http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~martinea/amanda Jean-Lo

amrecover file based backup and rewind

2003-03-12 Thread Gregor Ibic
Im trying to recover some file from file based backup. Im using the changer for rotating backup folders. The problem is that amrecover wants to rewind the tape, but it tries to rewind the file:/data/Daily instead of file:/data/Daily/backup/Daily03 which is the real "file" backup tape. If I rewind

Gene Heskett's amanda build script

2003-03-12 Thread Deb Baddorf
On Sun February 23 2003 08:23, Carsten Rezny wrote: >Thanks for your reply, Jay. > >On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 21:57, Jay Lessert wrote: >> [Posted and Cc'ed] >> >> On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 08:09:16PM +0100, Carsten Rezny wrote: >> > I have installed Amanda 2.4.2p2 on a SuSE 8.0 box. The machine >> > is

Re: level 0 of huge filesystem not working (tar returned 2, and the backup fails)

2003-03-12 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 03:54:09PM -0500, wab wrote: > One filesystem I'm trying to back up with AMANDA is really huge and I'm > encountering errors: > > This filesystem is so huge, a level 0 is taking longer than 24 hours. > Any ideas on what could be going wrong? My best guesses: > > 1. The fil

Re: level 0 of huge filesystem not working (tar returned 2, and thebackup fails)

2003-03-12 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 at 3:54pm, wab wrote > One filesystem I'm trying to back up with AMANDA is really huge and I'm > encountering errors: > > This filesystem is so huge, a level 0 is taking longer than 24 hours. > Any ideas on what could be going wrong? My best guesses: > > 1. The filesystem is

drive compression discovery - I like dump :)

2003-03-12 Thread Stephen D. Lane
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:34:13PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: ---cut--- > >Current command is > > > ># dump 0udsf 49125 67854 /dev/nst0 /iarcvol > >(I'm not primary on that system, I'm not really sure where > > these values originated but have been involved in testing > > tweeking them). > > Hoo b

The amflush that wouldn't flush

2003-03-12 Thread DK Smith
I seem to have some sort of database anomaly in my AMANDA system. I am looking for references to previous articles about this topic... or maybe some guidance as to what I should be examining or evaluating... ## I have sent the amflush command for the only degraded backup remaining. It always co

level 0 of huge filesystem not working (tar returned 2, and the backup fails)

2003-03-12 Thread wab
One filesystem I'm trying to back up with AMANDA is really huge and I'm encountering errors: This filesystem is so huge, a level 0 is taking longer than 24 hours. Any ideas on what could be going wrong? My best guesses: 1. The filesystem is just too big for TAR. 2. The filesystem is so big, its c

RE: tapes are doomed

2003-03-12 Thread wab
Case in point... My department just approved the purchase of a $4,500 Iomega NAS server, to replace our NT and Unix tape backup DLT drives. I will soon be facilitating the use of AMANDA to a NAS server Vs. a SCSI DLT Tape. I look forward to the challenge/opportunity! wab -Original Message

Re: Who uses amanda?

2003-03-12 Thread philo vivero
> I have been told that I didn't allow for the cost of my time to > implement and babysit our system; but from watching one of my > colleagues struggle with our Tivoli implementation, I'm not sure it > makes that much of a difference. Hrm. In a past life, I implemented Amanda in a company that b

Re: drive compression discovery

2003-03-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wed March 12 2003 14:12, Brian Cuttler wrote: >I realize this isn't the correct forum, but as long as >your are already on the subject I'm hoping you will not >mind too much. I'd guess thats since it has to do with tape, it should come under our umbrella. >I have one system, just one, that I

Re: drive compression discovery

2003-03-12 Thread Brian Cuttler
I realize this isn't the correct forum, but as long as your are already on the subject I'm hoping you will not mind too much. I have one system, just one, that I do not run amanda on but perform backups of. Its a Redhat Linux rel 7.2, code name Inigma, kernel 2.4.9.3-1, with a DLT 8000 drive. We

Re: Who uses amanda?

2003-03-12 Thread Wayne Richards
Dr. Kirby, We have used amanda for backup of about 65 workstations and servers for going on five years now here at corporate research for Goodyear. Currently, we backup about 700GB. > We use amanda at the CSREES agency of U.S. Dept of Agriculture. We use it on > our Linux and unix servers. We

Re: tapes are doomed

2003-03-12 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 at 11:31am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote > I am observing that high capacity tapes continue to be expensive, while > high capacity disk drives continue to fall in price at an astrounding > rate. Non-tape writable media are also cheap and falling, though they > tend to be lower capa

Re: Who uses amanda?

2003-03-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wed March 12 2003 12:45, Paul Bijnens wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> But since amanda is a client/server setup, and the client can be >> told to do the compression, the next consideration would be the >> occupied network bandwidth while the backup is running. Using >> client compression can mak

Re: problem with amrestore / tar permissions

2003-03-12 Thread Paul Bijnens
liam pace wrote: Hi, when I run the command amrestore -p /dev/rmt/1n scuba /boot | tar -pxv on the tape server itself, I manage to restore the files however the files are restored in a new directory structure. A number of new directories are created and also the files loose permissions. any idea h

Re: a bit off topic but ...

2003-03-12 Thread Paul Bijnens
Lars Segerlund wrote: I was wondering how amanda estimates the backup size ? is there a switch to tar to estimate the archive size without generating the file ? For the estimate phase Amanda uses the "--file /dev/null" option of gnutar, and gnutar has a special optimisation that if it detects

Re: tapes are doomed

2003-03-12 Thread Jay Lessert
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:31:45AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am observing that high capacity tapes continue to be expensive, while > high capacity disk drives continue to fall in price at an astrounding > rate. Whenever someone at work criticizes me for spending money on LTO tapes when I

Re: Who uses amanda?

2003-03-12 Thread Paul Bijnens
Gene Heskett wrote: But since amanda is a client/server setup, and the client can be told to do the compression, the next consideration would be the occupied network bandwidth while the backup is running. Using client compression can make night and day differences in the network loading and it

Check length/capacity of tape?

2003-03-12 Thread John Oliver
My first "successful" backup withe the DLT7000 loader seems to have run out of tape at about 20GB. I'm *almost* certain that all of the tapes I was using with the DLT4000 were new, and therefore should be capable of holding the 35GB. There isn't any definitive markings on any of the tapes. They

Re: drive compression discovery

2003-03-12 Thread Paul Bijnens
Gene Heskett wrote: On Wed March 12 2003 09:16, Eric Sproul wrote: On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 14:39, Gene Heskett wrote: Two other points come up here, Eric. 1. When a tape is inserted in most modern drives, the "tape recognition cycle" will discover that this tape has been compressed previously, and

Re: raw device ownership & permissions on SGI machine

2003-03-12 Thread Gordon Pritchard
On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 03:02, Harri Haataja wrote: > I believe the /hw filesystem is created on the fly like /proc or a > devfs. > Nice to know this. I have not used amanda and dump on Irix so I haven't > come across this. I use amanda to back up Irix clients (Onyx racks). However, I ha

Re: Who uses amanda? -- RFC

2003-03-12 Thread Jon LaBadie
This regular query never made it to the FAQ-O-Matic I see. A proposal, I'll put together a survey form (sample follows) and ask the list for submissions. After a period I'll summarize the data, hopefully in a table of some form and submit it to the F-O-M. So, two questions: 1. Is the survey de

RE: Who uses amanda?

2003-03-12 Thread Martinez, Michael - CSREES/ISTM
We use amanda at the CSREES agency of U.S. Dept of Agriculture. We use it on our Linux and unix servers. We back up approximately 30 Gigs of data with it. Michael Martinez CSREES/ISTM/USDA > -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12,

tapes are doomed

2003-03-12 Thread bukys
I am observing that high capacity tapes continue to be expensive, while high capacity disk drives continue to fall in price at an astrounding rate. Non-tape writable media are also cheap and falling, though they tend to be lower capacity. When some of these price/capacity curves cross, something

Re: a bit off topic but ...

2003-03-12 Thread bukys
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 at 2:47pm, Lars Segerlund wrote > I was wondering how amanda estimates the backup size ? > >is there a switch to tar to estimate the archive size without > generating the file ? What actually happens: - gnu tar knows that if its output is to /dev/null, it doesn't act

Re: Flushing interrupted backups

2003-03-12 Thread Martin hepworth
Alex Page wrote: Last night, my amdump was interrupted, and there is data left in my holding disk. I'd like to use amflush to dump them onto the tape I was using for last night's backup, but it insists that I use a new tape for the flush. Is there any way to convince Amanda to use last night's tape

Re: Who uses amanda?

2003-03-12 Thread Mike Simpson
Dr. Kirkby -- I support about thirty or so UNIX servers (Solaris, AIX, Linux) that represent the development, testing, and production environments for the electronic resources of the University of Wisconsin at Madison Libraries. I started using Amanda 2.4.x about two years ago to do backups o

Re: a bit off topic but ...

2003-03-12 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 at 2:47pm, Lars Segerlund wrote > I was wondering how amanda estimates the backup size ? > >is there a switch to tar to estimate the archive size without > generating the file ? You can see the exact command in /tmp/amanda/sendsize*debug. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Depar

Re: Flushing interrupted backups

2003-03-12 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 at 2:00pm, Alex Page wrote > Last night, my amdump was interrupted, and there is data left in my > holding disk. I'd like to use amflush to dump them onto the tape I was > using for last night's backup, but it insists that I use a new tape for > the flush. Is there any way to c

problem with amrestore / tar permissions

2003-03-12 Thread liam pace
Hi, when I run the command amrestore -p /dev/rmt/1n scuba /boot | tar -pxv on the tape server itself, I manage to restore the files however the files are restored in a new directory structure. A number of new directories are created and also the files loose permissions. any idea how this can be s

Re: Who uses amanda?

2003-03-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wed March 12 2003 06:59, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: >Can anyone tell me if they use amanda and are a large commercial > company (> 250 employees), a hospital or a university and if so > how much it's used (whole institution, small department, single > server etc). How many Gb do you back up (don't

Re: dump largee than tape

2003-03-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wed March 12 2003 07:25, Konrad Dienst wrote: >Hi! > >Here are the debugs of one run. Thats something that amanda cannot do, is span a single dump across more than one tape. The normal fix is to use tar, and break the disklist entries up into subdirs that are small enough to fit. -- Cheers

Re: Who uses amanda?

2003-03-12 Thread Gerhard den Hollander
* Greg Troxel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 08:22:34AM -0500) On the same lines, we use amanda at a couple of sites (Middle east, UK and the netherlands) handling somewhere between 1 and 2 Tb of data in total, and we're looking to expand the setup to include another Tb of data to be ba

Re: drive compression discovery

2003-03-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wed March 12 2003 09:16, Eric Sproul wrote: >On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 14:39, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Two other points come up here, Eric. >> >> 1. When a tape is inserted in most modern drives, the "tape >> recognition cycle" will discover that this tape has been >> compressed previously, and will t

Re: drive compression discovery

2003-03-12 Thread Eric Sproul
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 14:39, Gene Heskett wrote: > Two other points come up here, Eric. > > 1. When a tape is inserted in most modern drives, the "tape > recognition cycle" will discover that this tape has been compressed > previously, and will turn the compression back on regardless of > your

Re: drive compression discovery

2003-03-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wed March 12 2003 06:46, Sven Rudolph wrote: >Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> To get around this, one would assume that amcheck has already >> been run, and that the correct tape for tonights session is >> indeed loaded into the drive, > >This doesn't work when you have to write to m

Re: Who uses amanda?

2003-03-12 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 at 11:59am, Dr. David Kirkby wrote > Can anyone tell me if they use amanda and are a large commercial company > (> 250 employees), a hospital or a university and if so how much it's > used (whole institution, small department, single server etc). How many > Gb do you back up (d

a bit off topic but ...

2003-03-12 Thread Lars Segerlund
I was wondering how amanda estimates the backup size ? is there a switch to tar to estimate the archive size without generating the file ? / Lars Segerlund.

Flushing interrupted backups

2003-03-12 Thread Alex Page
Last night, my amdump was interrupted, and there is data left in my holding disk. I'd like to use amflush to dump them onto the tape I was using for last night's backup, but it insists that I use a new tape for the flush. Is there any way to convince Amanda to use last night's tape? Alex -- Mail:

Re: drive compression discovery

2003-03-12 Thread Paul Bijnens
Sven Rudolph wrote: But when you handcraft this by any workaround like you proposed, there are even more races possible. (Like something migt change the tape beetween your amcheck and yout script-erasing.) But you only have to do this once for each tape! There is no need to put this in the taper p

Re: dump largee than tape

2003-03-12 Thread Konrad Dienst
Hi! Here are the debugs of one run. amandad: debug 1 pid 1888 ruid 501 euid 501: start at Wed Mar 12 09:13:11 2003 amandad: version 2.4.4 amandad: build: VERSION="Amanda-2.4.4" amandad:BUILT_DATE="Mon Mar 3 09:53:03 CET 2003" amandad:BUILT_MACH="Linux corellia 2.4.18-3 #1 Thu Apr 1

Re: Who uses amanda?

2003-03-12 Thread Greg Troxel
For your home machine, amanda still makes sense. It can schedule full dumps of partitions over multiple nights, etc. and do the bookkeeping of what is on what tape. I know several people that run amanda at home. My department has ~30 employees. We run 2 amanda setups onto DDS3 and 1 onto DDS2,

Re: Who uses amanda?

2003-03-12 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:59:45AM +, Dr. David Kirkby enlightened us: > Can anyone tell me if they use amanda and are a large commercial company > (> 250 employees), a hospital or a university and if so how much it's > used (whole institution, small department, single server etc). How many > G

Who uses amanda?

2003-03-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Can anyone tell me if they use amanda and are a large commercial company (> 250 employees), a hospital or a university and if so how much it's used (whole institution, small department, single server etc). How many Gb do you back up (don't answer that if you feel its confidential, or you don't know

Re: drive compression discovery

2003-03-12 Thread Sven Rudolph
Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To get around this, one would assume that amcheck has already been > run, and that the correct tape for tonights session is indeed > loaded into the drive, This doesn't work when you have to write to more than one tape. Sometimes you do not even know i

Re: raw device ownership & permissions on SGI machine

2003-03-12 Thread Harri Haataja
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:35:44PM -0800, Stephen D. Lane wrote: > Greetings. I am using amanda to back up several clients, one of which > is an SGI Origin workstation. This client was recently rebuilt from > scratch to IRIX 6.5.19m (yesterday, as a matter of fact :), and I > don't know if the fo

RE: amlabel

2003-03-12 Thread afourey
Hi, I get error with rpm version of amanda (2.4.2P2-9). I compile version 2.4.4 of amanda and all working fine thanks. -- Alexandre FOUREY Consultant Architecture de Systèmes T-Systems Soleri Groupe Deutsche Telekom Notre métier : la convergence informatique et télécoms Convergence is our Bus