missing result in response

2006-03-08 Thread Stefan Herrmann
hello, we have an amanda server in an internal, nated network. now i wanted to backup a client outside this network (directly connected), but i get this from amstatus: bart.imos.net:/ 0 planner: [missing result for / in bart.imos.net response] bart.imos.net:/boot 0 planner: [missing

amanda and zfs

2006-03-08 Thread Anthony Worrall
Hi I have playing about with Sun's new filesystem ZFS. One of the things I wanted to do was make sure I could get amanda to backup zfs. The way the backup utility works with zfs is based on snapshots. You can either do a full bakup of a filesystem or the difference between two snapshots. The

If most recent backup is not level 0, recovery fails to bring back all files when directories have been renamed

2006-03-08 Thread Dave Ewart
I've just been caught out by something which is either (a) a limitation of AMANDA and/or tar/dump; (b) a bug. In summary: when a directory is *renamed* the files underneath it are not considered to have changed: this means that a non-level-0 backup following the directory rename only backs up

Re: If most recent backup is not level 0, recovery fails to bring back all files when directories have been renamed

2006-03-08 Thread Dave Ewart
On Wednesday, 08.03.2006 at 11:34 +, Dave Ewart wrote: I've just been caught out by something which is either (a) a limitation of AMANDA and/or tar/dump; (b) a bug. A follow-up, prompted by a reply from Paul, indicating that I had indeed forgotten a couple of rather important bits of

Re: If most recent backup is not level 0, recovery fails to bring back all files when directories have been renamed

2006-03-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 March 2006 06:50, Dave Ewart wrote: On Wednesday, 08.03.2006 at 11:34 +, Dave Ewart wrote: I've just been caught out by something which is either (a) a limitation of AMANDA and/or tar/dump; (b) a bug. A follow-up, prompted by a reply from Paul, indicating that I had

Re: If most recent backup is not level 0, recovery fails to bring back all files when directories have been renamed

2006-03-08 Thread Dave Ewart
On Wednesday, 08.03.2006 at 07:35 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On the client being backed-up: $ tar --version tar (GNU tar) 1.14 We believe this version of tar is borked. Please get the older 1.13-19, 1.13-25, or the newer 1.15-1. For whatever reason, 1.14 was only visible on gnu.org

Re: If most recent backup is not level 0, recovery fails to bring back all files when directories have been renamed

2006-03-08 Thread Ian Turner
On Wednesday 08 March 2006 06:34, Dave Ewart wrote: In summary: when a directory is *renamed* the files underneath it are not considered to have changed Usually, I would say that this is a limitation of the UNIX filesystem. A directory's modification time can change anytime you add or remove a

Re: If most recent backup is not level 0, recovery fails to bring back all files when directories have been renamed

2006-03-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 March 2006 08:43, Dave Ewart wrote: On Wednesday, 08.03.2006 at 07:35 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On the client being backed-up: $ tar --version tar (GNU tar) 1.14 We believe this version of tar is borked. Please get the older 1.13-19, 1.13-25, or the newer 1.15-1. For

Re: If most recent backup is not level 0, recovery fails to bring back all files when directories have been renamed

2006-03-08 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 10:02:43AM -0500, Gene Heskett enlightened us: On Wednesday, 08.03.2006 at 07:35 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On the client being backed-up: $ tar --version tar (GNU tar) 1.14 We believe this version of tar is borked. Please get the older 1.13-19, 1.13-25,

Re: If most recent backup is not level 0, recovery fails to bring back all files when directories have been renamed

2006-03-08 Thread Ian Turner
On Wednesday 08 March 2006 06:34, Dave Ewart wrote: In summary: when a directory is *renamed* the files underneath it are not considered to have changed This does not appear to happen with CVS tar in listed-incremental mode. Please try upgrading your tar and check if you still see this

Re: If most recent backup is not level 0, recovery fails to bring back all files when directories have been renamed

2006-03-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 March 2006 10:17, Matt Hyclak wrote: On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 10:02:43AM -0500, Gene Heskett enlightened us: On Wednesday, 08.03.2006 at 07:35 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On the client being backed-up: $ tar --version tar (GNU tar) 1.14 We believe this version of tar

Re: If most recent backup is not level 0, recovery fails to bring back all files when directories have been renamed

2006-03-08 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 10:31:44AM -0500, Gene Heskett enlightened us: I hope you build your own RPMs, since I know you use an RPM based system ;-) Nope, I use checkinstall for some stuff, but this isn't being done for these. And they are pinned in yum.conf. Yeah, my systems borked.

Re: If most recent backup is not level 0, recovery fails to bring back all files when directories have been renamed

2006-03-08 Thread Dave Ewart
On Wednesday, 08.03.2006 at 10:02 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: This package of 'tar' is the current default in Debian/Sarge and is updated with various security issues without changing the version number, so it's not entirely clear what version is really there under the hood. Which is

Re: If most recent backup is not level 0, recovery fails to bring back all files when directories have been renamed

2006-03-08 Thread Dave Ewart
On Wednesday, 08.03.2006 at 10:27 -0500, Ian Turner wrote: On Wednesday 08 March 2006 06:34, Dave Ewart wrote: In summary: when a directory is *renamed* the files underneath it are not considered to have changed This does not appear to happen with CVS tar in listed-incremental mode.

Re: If most recent backup is not level 0, recovery fails to bring back all files when directories have been renamed

2006-03-08 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 04:21:42PM +, Dave Ewart wrote: On Wednesday, 08.03.2006 at 10:27 -0500, Ian Turner wrote: This does not appear to happen with CVS tar in listed-incremental mode. Please try upgrading your tar and check if you still see this behaviour. OK, you've hit

Re: If most recent backup is not level 0, recovery fails to bring back all files when directories have been renamed

2006-03-08 Thread Michael Loftis
--On March 8, 2006 11:34:16 AM + Dave Ewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoughts/opinions here? BTW the AMANDA server runs Debian/Woody (2.4.2p2-4) and the client being backed up above runs Debian/Sarge AMD64 (2.4.4p3-3). It could very well be b -- if it is it's not amanda, it's tar.

Re: amanda and zfs

2006-03-08 Thread Paddy Sreenivasan
Hi Anthony, Thanks for providing ufsdump wrapper to handle ZFS. When Application API (http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/Application_API) is implemented (hopefully in the next Amanda release after 2.5), creating application plugin for snapshot based filesystem such as ZFS will be easier. Issue 1