Re: [AMRadio] You Won't Believe This

2005-01-02 Thread David Knepper
No, Bryon, I have not. This is weird. One day it works and the next day it exhibits this condition. Static electricity seems to be the standard reply from most of the Collins group, however. This has got to be the answer but it not come from me wiping the meter face. Dave, W3ST Publisher of

Re: [AMRadio] You Won't Believe This

2005-01-02 Thread David Knepper
I tried another meter and it worked fine. That is what is troubling. I am going to take this meter and place it in another transmitter to see what it reads. Will report back to you. Dave, W3ST Publisher of the Collins Journal Secretary to the Collins Radio Association www.collinsra.com Nets:

Re: [AMRadio] You Won't Believe This

2005-01-02 Thread Alan Cohen
It would be interesting to see exactly how much current is flowing through the meter. Try hooking the lead from the smoothing choke to the other terminal of the meter. Now, if the same phenomena is present you can read the current flow. Also, it just seems like an interesting thing to try

Re: [AMRadio] You Won't Believe This

2005-01-02 Thread David Knepper
Connecting the lead from the smoothing choke to either terminal results in the same downward reading. A mica cap is across the meter and I removed it as well. I am going to hook this meter to the plate lead of the Collins 30K-1 transmitter today to see what happens. Will report the results

[AMRadio] Re: [Collins] You Won't Believe This

2005-01-02 Thread Barockteer
Dave- Could there be a leakage path to ground? 4KV is a lot, so if there was a high resistance path to ground, some current could flow back to the chassis... If you remove both leads, can you measure any resistance from the positive lug to the chassis? Does the meter deflect when you do this?

Re: [AMRadio] You Won't Believe This

2005-01-02 Thread Larry Will
But.. To get the correct input power (required in broadcasting) you must measure plate current not cathode current. Properly insulated meters are safe and reliable. I agre its either static or magnetic field problem. W3LW W3LW At 02:11 AM 1/2/05 -0400, you wrote: John, thank you for

Re: [AMRadio] You Won't Believe This

2005-01-02 Thread Geoff/W5OMR
Just remember that when you put the meter in the cathode circuit it measured combined plate screen current. Bob Macklin K5MYJ/7 Seattle, Wa. REAL RADIOS GLOW IN THE DARK or Grid/cathode current, in the case of triodes ;-) 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR

Re: [AMRadio] Re: [Collins] You Won't Believe This

2005-01-02 Thread David McClafferty
I would think that if enough current went through the meter to reverse the magnet, it would have melted the coil... Maybe it was reversed by a magnetic field rather than a current through the coil. The fridge in my daughter's house became magnetized after the house was hit by lightning.

[AMRadio] The Solution

2005-01-02 Thread David Knepper
Today I found an open 20K/150 watt resistor (one of two screen dropping resistors) that was open. Since the 4-400A's did not have screen voltage the high voltage soared which may have caused the plate current meter to show negative current - too much voltage floating around inside the meter. I

Re: [AMRadio] The Solution

2005-01-02 Thread Bill Ramsey
- Original Message - From: David Knepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Collins Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of AM Radio amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 11:42 AM Subject: [AMRadio] The Solution Today I found an open 20K/150 watt resistor (one of two screen

Re: [AMRadio] The Solution

2005-01-02 Thread Bill Ramsey
Hi David, This was a great thread and I am glad you found the problem. I don't remember seeing a 20V when I was over there about a year ago. Did you get it recently, or is my memory just faulty? I remember the Western Electric BC transmitter. Bill KA8WTK Tallmadge, Ohio - Original

Re: [AMRadio] The Solution

2005-01-02 Thread David Knepper
I do hope that once that I install the 20K resistor that the 20V-3 will again be purring. I got the 20V-3 last year and it stands proudly next to my Western Electric 451A-1. We are building a studio downstairs for the heavy iron that is upstairs, like the spare 30K-1 and the receiver deck with

[AMRadio] time mag blasts hams

2005-01-02 Thread Patrick Jankowiak
From the local club mailing list. Seems it is true. Guess they think we are all lunatic old men that spend too much time in the basement. (Myself, I'm not too old, nor do I have a basement) Tom NU4G This week's issue (December 27) has an article on blogs on page 109. In

Re: [AMRadio] You Won't Believe This

2005-01-02 Thread Donald Chester
If you measure current from the filament transformer center tap to ground, you'll have not only cathode current, but plate current, as well. Just look over at the grid current meter, subtract that from the plate meter, and there's your plate current, AND it's in a nearly ground potential

RE: [AMRadio] You Won't Believe This

2005-01-02 Thread John Coleman, ARS WA5BXO
What your speaking of Don is shown in the following article. http://www.qsl.net/wa5bxo/pptriodes/pptriodes.htm This article was started some time ago, for what reason I don't remember. I never had the chance to spend a lot of time with it so it probably has a lot of mistakes.

[AMRadio] Metering circuits

2005-01-02 Thread Donald Chester
What your speaking of Don is shown in the following article. http://www.qsl.net/wa5bxo/pptriodes/pptriodes.htm If you measure current from the filament transformer center tap to ground, you'll have not only cathode current, but plate current, as well. Just look over at the grid current

[AMRadio] Collins 20V-3 - Happy, Happy

2005-01-02 Thread David Knepper
Installed a new 20K/200 watt resistor in the screen circuit to the 4-400A's. There are two of these resistors in series - I replaced the other one some time ago. The problem was none other than an open resistor. I did see a whitish power on one end of the resistor which is a sure sign that the

Re: [AMRadio] time mag blasts hams

2005-01-02 Thread k0ng
I am not embarrased but otherwise, I resemble that remark. If the shoe fits! K0NG . Quoting Patrick Jankowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From the local club mailing list. Seems it is true. Guess they think we are all lunatic old men that spend too much time in the basement. (Myself, I'm not too

Re: [AMRadio] Re: BW 5100B Audio Mods

2005-01-02 Thread Larry Szendrei
I think it would have to be, Tom. Then there should be an audio choke between the screen supply and the screens. -Larry/NE1S Tom Elmore wrote: The unit I have has a separate B+ supply for the screens. So would this be self-modulating then? -Tom - Original Message - From: ne1s [EMAIL