RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-12 Thread Donald Chester
From: Brett gazdzinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don, Does that do pep? Can you warm something up on the thermocouple? No, it reads RMS feedline current in amps. Working into a dummy load of known resistance, watts output can be calculated by Ohm's law. On the real antenna, I just use it to ind

RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-07 Thread Brett gazdzinski
ff > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:46 PM > To: Discussion of AM Radio > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] watt meter > > Brett gazdzinski wrote: > > >I think that is the tuner I have. > >The watt meters are not pep though. > > > >The tuner works great, the balun is

Re: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-07 Thread W5OMR/Geoff
Brett gazdzinski wrote: I think that is the tuner I have. The watt meters are not pep though. The tuner works great, the balun is not good for any power if things are wacko with the swr... I bought it new from heathkit in Philadelphia a LONG time ago! Brett is it the 2060 or the 2060A? I

RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-07 Thread Brett gazdzinski
TECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W5OMR/Geoff > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:12 AM > To: Discussion of AM Radio > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] watt meter > > Brett gazdzinski wrote: > > > > >I got an Autek meter off ebay, see the link below... > >

Re: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-07 Thread W5OMR/Geoff
Brett gazdzinski wrote: I got an Autek meter off ebay, see the link below... I just bought a Heathkit SA-2060A tuner, with meters built in, at a recent hamfest. I currently use a Heathkit SA-2060 tuner, on my 75m full-wave loop, fed with 450-ohm ladder line. Tomorrow morning, I connect

RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-07 Thread Brett gazdzinski
I got an Autek meter off ebay, see the link below... http://cgi.ebay.com/Autek-Research-WM-1-Computing-Meter_W0QQitemZ5872349614Q QcategoryZ1502QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Other nice looking meters were a radio craft 3000 pro, http://www.radiocraft-eng.com/3000-Pro.html Nye-viking made something that

Re: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-02 Thread Donald Chester
Think the FCC will buy it? What if they come around and say they are sure you had a few peaks over 1600 watts? Have you EVER heard of a ham getting a citation over the p.e.p. rule, in all the years since Johnny Johnston and his henchmen ramrodded that rule into Part 97? A CLEAN SSB signal

RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-02 Thread Donald Chester
The Best measurement I ever got was using a dummy load of know resistive accuracy. I used a new "Cantenna" from heath kit. I said "new" because if over heated once they can change resistance. The older one seemed to be better. I use a dummy load made of a dozen 600-ohm Glo-Bar resistors in pa

Re: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-02 Thread Rev. Don Sanders
om: "Brett gazdzinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Discussion of AM Radio'" Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: RE: [AMRadio] watt meter > If I could find out the diode type, I could replace them, > the inductor looks to be a match with another one

RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-02 Thread John E. Coleman (ARS WA5BXO)
01, 2006 3:10 PM To: 'Discussion of AM Radio' Subject: RE: [AMRadio] watt meter What is everyone doing for a watt meter? My swan wm-3000 blew up last weekend, it reads no pep and about 1/4 of the correct average power. I could fix it if I could find out what diodes they used (3 gone), and one of t

Re: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-01 Thread Rick Brashear
There may be a manual on BAMA. If not, quite likely you can locate a schematic indicating the part numbers you need. I feel sure you'd be safe with just about any diode in the 1N60/1N34 category. 73, Rick/K5IZ Brett gazdzinski wrote: The diodes looked like 1n34a's, but who knows. I think I

Re: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-01 Thread W5OMR/Geoff
Brett gazdzinski wrote: Think the FCC will buy it? What if they come around and say they are sure you had a few peaks over 1600 watts? No one has said anything to me running 100w, and 4:1 asymetrical positive-to-negative ratio peaks in the last 4 years. I am sure they are just waiting

RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-01 Thread Brett gazdzinski
- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Brashear > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:40 PM > To: Discussion of AM Radio > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] watt meter > > > This is just a guess, but a lot of older watt meters used > 1N60 diodes. &

RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-01 Thread Brett gazdzinski
Don, Does that do pep? Can you warm something up on the thermocouple? Brett > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Chester > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:17 PM > To: amradio@mailman.qth.net > Subject:

RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-01 Thread Brett gazdzinski
stuff around the house and yard with a walkman, its over a watt I think... Brett > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W5OMR/Geoff > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:26 PM > To: Discussion of AM Radio > Subject: R

RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-01 Thread Brett gazdzinski
If I could find out the diode type, I could replace them, the inductor looks to be a match with another one (forward/reflected?). It's a small potted thing, almost looks like a cross between a resistor and a small electrolytic cap. I don't know how you would calibrate it for average and pep, the

Re: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-01 Thread ronnie.hull
Brashear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Discussion of AM Radio Sent: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:36:38 -0600 Subject: Re: [AMRadio] watt meter > Try W7RF, Radiodan, at the link below. I personally like Bird > meters and he has a good assortment of new and used meters. Some > are PEP ready or yo

RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-01 Thread Brett gazdzinski
gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Brashear > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:37 PM > To: Discussion of AM Radio > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] watt meter > > Try W7RF, Radiodan, at the link below. I personally like Bird meters > and he has a g

RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-01 Thread Donald Chester
From: Brett gazdzinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What is everyone doing for a watt meter? I use something I can trust - a plain ol' thermocouple rf ammeter. Don K4KYV. ___ This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. Tr

Re: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-01 Thread W5OMR/Geoff
Brett gazdzinski wrote: What is everyone doing for a watt meter? I use a scope, plate current and plate voltage meters. Final efficiency is typically 75% - so, 1500v @ 200mA = 300w DC input is close to 225w carrier output. If you don't use a tuner, and know that your antenna is resonant

Re: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-01 Thread Rick Brashear
This is just a guess, but a lot of older watt meters used 1N60 diodes. The inductor is most likely in the 250 - 275 uh range. 73, Rick/K5IZ What is everyone doing for a watt meter? My swan wm-3000 blew up last weekend, it reads no pep and about 1/4 of the correct average power. I could

Re: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-01 Thread Jim Wilhite
I have a Bird 4411 which uses one slug for 2-30 Mcy. The meter has a switch that will change the power scale from 10 watts to 10K watts. It is not a true peak meter but there is a formula that derives it in the book. The 4411 is a 4410 with provisions for AC input, the 4410 is 9V battery pow

Re: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-01 Thread Rick Brashear
Try W7RF, Radiodan, at the link below. I personally like Bird meters and he has a good assortment of new and used meters. Some are PEP ready or you can buy a kit (either original Bird or a knockoff) to convert a regular Model 43 to PEP. They are designed for continuous duty and you can get a

RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-01 Thread Brett gazdzinski
What is everyone doing for a watt meter? My swan wm-3000 blew up last weekend, it reads no pep and about 1/4 of the correct average power. I could fix it if I could find out what diodes they used (3 gone), and one of the little inducters broke, but it would not be calibrated. It was a good meter