Hi John,
Actually almost all rice boxes since the late 80s or early 90s have had full
DSB AM capability,
73,
Ellen - AF9J
John Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think most of the modern rice boxes are actually full double sideband. By
modern, I mean in the last 5 years.
Gents:
I have posted on my website for a short period of time
a utility that I think will be of interest to those following
this thread.
Go to:
http://tonnesoftware.com/ModTutor.exe
It is mathematically sound and should be operable on
most winnder$ computers.
And it is of interest that most o
Friday, February 08, 2008 11:44 AM
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Re: Carrier with one sideband
Vectors and resultant graphs are shown at this site
http://www.qsl.net/wa5bxo/amtech.html
John, WA5BXO
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before after the sound IF takeoff.
John, WA5BXO
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Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Carrier with one sideband
Vectors and resultant graphs are shown at this site
http://www.qsl.net/wa5bxo/amtech.html
John, WA5BXO
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Oh yes, I forgot to mention:
VSB versus SSB versus "real" AM:
VSB is NOT the same as SSB with carrier. VSB
operates as DSB at lower modulating frequencies.
As you raise the modulating frequency the signal
becomes SSB.
The reason VSB can sound better than SSB with
carrier is that most of th
Gary:
Every single statement you made is true. SSB
with one sideband sucks at high percentages
of modulation.
- Jim WB6BLD
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I agree, modern radios (Kenwood etc) generate DSB with carrier that can be
set to the proper level.
All TV Stations, up to going digital, used VSB WITH carrier but only for the
video. The voice was 25 KHz FM Dev.
Charlie, K0NG.
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> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:48 PM
> To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Carrier with one sideband
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> Gents:
>
> First, this is my first post to this interesting group and I
> hope y
re so much more linear
than a SS brick.
Carl
KM1H
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From: "Ellen Rugowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Carrier with one sideba
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Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Carrier with one sideband
> rbethman wrote:
> >
> > The "modern" SS rigs do NOT generate AM in that manner.
Yes you're right - almost all SSB rigs from the 60s & 70s basically were one
sideband and a ca
Although not a true AM mode as the seasoned amateurs might define it, one
sideband with carrier inserted, can work reasonably well, and does
especially well in crowded band conditions. Actually Don, the last time
we worked on 75 M, one early morning last Fall (or maybe late Summer), I
was running t
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From: "jeremy-ca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Carrier with one sideband
> I agree with Bob that the phasing rigs sound
Gents:
First, this is my first post to this interesting group and I
hope you take what I have to say constructively.
This business of SSB on AM, etc., is of interest to me
on a technical basis.
But let's do a computer simulation of this thing. To
this end I have written a computer program
rbethman wrote:
The "modern" SS rigs do NOT generate AM in that manner.
The last radio that I saw that used a carrier with ONE sideband for AM
was the Collins KWS-1. That is precisely why I did NOT procure one
when the opportunity arose.
Swan did the same thing. There was a 'carrier null
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To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Carrier with one sideband
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> The "modern" SS rigs do NOT g
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From: "D. Chester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:22 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Re: Carrier with one sideband
From: Peter Markavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A number of the early phasing type transmitters/exc
The "modern" SS rigs do NOT generate AM in that manner.
The last radio that I saw that used a carrier with ONE sideband for AM
was the Collins KWS-1. That is precisely why I did NOT procure one when
the opportunity arose.
As to Vestigal SB, that INDEED is used in Amateur TV signals, howeve
AM but may people just don't have access to a good
Johnson transmitter or DX-100.
Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa,
"Real Radios Glow in the Dark"
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From: "D. Chester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:22 PM
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From: Peter Markavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A number of the early phasing type transmitters/exciters and SSB adapters
allowed you to operate on "AM" with just one sideband. So, only operating
DSB AM would really be an issue.
From: "Bob Macklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Any of the Heath SSB ri
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