[amsat-bb] 2M1EUB/P NOW QRV NE.SCOTLAND

2011-10-02 Thread paul robinson
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread Jeffrey Koehler
It amazes me that people to this day still call, "CQ satellite CQ satellite" and having it be so obvious that they cannot hear the downlink. Unbelievable. 73, Jeff WB2SYK FN13xc From: Michael Schulz To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 11:29

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread Michael Schulz
On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 05:52 -0700, Jeffrey Koehler wrote: > It amazes me that people to this day still call, "CQ satellite CQ > satellite" and having it be so obvious that they cannot hear the > downlink. > > > Unbelievable. Not necessarily unbelievable but aren't there many folks out there who w

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread Omar Alvarez
Thanks for the answers and comments, SSB satellites are a good solution when you invited someone to give a new grid, I did it (LU6QI), but sometimes in FM SAts appears a good o missed grid I you can´t get it because same stations, every orbit, are saying hello all day passes Well, my contri

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread Dave Webb KB1PVH
Jeff, Instead of complaining here on the BB, why don't you email the stations that are doing it and offer some suggestions to improve their operating practices and maybe point them to John K8YSE's website. You might be surprised at the response you get (in a good way) Dave - KB1PVH Sent from my

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread Clayton Coleman W5PFG
Since I am relatively “green” myself to FM satellite rover operation, I will share an observation from a recent grid expedition in West Texas. I’ve observed a behavior that I refer to as “Armageddon grid.” This means the rover operator is activating a grid for the last time before the world meets

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread Michael Schulz
Clayton, On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 08:56 -0500, Clayton Coleman W5PFG wrote: > If operators would not treat working a rare grid as if the world is > coming to an end immediately after the pass, I believe rover stations > would have a much more pleasant time handing out new grids. > > If you miss tha

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread Jeffrey Koehler
Dave... I've actually done that. Of the valid email addresses on QRZ.com (some were bounced back due to invalid addresses) I got one reply, which I can't republish here due to the "tone" used by the author. The kicker is that I heard someone that actually received an email from me a couple of

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread Bruce Paige
I know that everyone that has roved has had a similar problem. Here is the way I used to handle the problem. First, when the satellite came up, I would listen for all the stations I could hear and write them down. Then I would put my call out there with the grid, those that wanted me, knew

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread Clayton Coleman W5PFG
Mike, You convinced me. Next week when I'm in EL29, I will run as much power as I can to make sure you get that grid, being as it is so rare. Even if other stations want to work me, I will bust through them with my super-rover antenna array just so we can make contact. Thanks for setting me strai

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi Clayton! > Since I am relatively “green” myself to FM satellite rover operation, I've been reading your recent grid-expedition exploits here on the -BB. Hope to catch you on from some of those places in the near future. > I will share an observation from a recent grid expedition in West > Te

[amsat-bb] Re: VY1RM VO-52, 1000th grid worked

2011-10-02 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi John! > It is difficult for me to believe that there > have been 1000 grids active in the last 5 years. > When I first started in satellites I thought two or > three hundred grids would be about it, but many things > happened to move that estimate up. Last night I worked > VY1RM in the Yukon fo

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread N0JY
An interesting account, Clayton. It reminds me of my shipboard contact with my ham radio club back in 2008. We had a contact on AO-51 scheduled, and at the appointed time I gave my call (between the current QSOs) and a handful of stations answered, I asked them to please stand by while I comp

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread K5OE
Mike, K5TRI, writes: > p.s.: For the ironically challenged, this was irony. I don't run 1KW up > to any satellite as everybody knows it's not enough. Apparently, not even for FO-29 any more. That's a shame to, because I always had a nice signal on FO-29 when I ran the 1 KW amp. 73, Jerry, K5O

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread Michael Schulz
HA! Now we know who broke it :) 73 Mike On Oct 2, 2011, at 11:15 AM, K5OE wrote: > > Mike, K5TRI, writes: >> p.s.: For the ironically challenged, this was irony. I don't run 1KW up >> to any satellite as everybody knows it's not enough. > > Apparently, not even for FO-29 any more. That's a s

[amsat-bb] Ham Sats Dead?

2011-10-02 Thread Clint Bradford
In another forum, an unenlightened ham made the following allegation. Sorry, folks - I just cannot let this type of nonsense go unanswered ... (grin) ELSEWHERE >> ... I'm sure but the amateur satellite service is on life support right now ... things like the ARISSAT are just a novelty ... I a

[amsat-bb] Hearing AO-51

2011-10-02 Thread Paul Delaney - K6HR
Should I be able to hear AO-51 using an eggbeater with no preamp?. I can hear VO-52 just fine but have not heard AO-51at all, so I have to wonder why. I'm listening on 435.15. Perhaps the sat is not active while over DM03? Or am I kidding myself thinking I should be able to hear it without a

[amsat-bb] Re: Hearing AO-51

2011-10-02 Thread Clint Bradford
>> ... Should I be able to hear AO-51 using an eggbeater with no preamp?. Eggbeaters are great conversation starters. For working the FM sats, I have not been excited with my Eggbeater's performance. And I own one of the best - with horizontal plane kit installed. Just get a little "directiona

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread Sebastian, W4AS
When I got back on the birds a few years ago, I was surprised as to the exchanges commonly made while a 'rare' grid was on. Here's the format commonly used when a 'rare' grid or country, etc. is on: "CQ W4AS Echo Lima 84" W4AS, W4AS this is W1ABC" "W1ABC this is W4AS in Echo Lima 84" Roger W4AS,

[amsat-bb] Re: Ham Sats Dead?

2011-10-02 Thread Andre
Reminds me of a discusion I withnessed here localy. a club had the oppertunety to promote hamradio on a local event with a stall. On the day of the event it turned out that the stall had nothing more then a few HF stations all with CW key and one computer for digital modes. When asked about why t

[amsat-bb] Re: Hearing AO-51

2011-10-02 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
Your eggbeater is probably RHCP overhead and horizontal at the horizon. The 435.150 downlink on AO51 is LHCP, so you are at a serious disadvantage. Can you hear AO27? 73, Drew KO4MA Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2011, at 2:21 PM, "Paul Delaney - K6HR" wrote: > > Should I be able to hear AO

[amsat-bb] Re: Hearing AO-51

2011-10-02 Thread Clint Bradford
>> ... ISS was nothing more then a flying mailbox and that getting a qsl card >> for leaving a message in an orbiting bbs was dumb ... I was wishing that that type of ignorance didn't exist in our hobby ... but I've been called an "optimist" (as well as several other things ... (grin)). I was

[amsat-bb] Re: Hearing AO-51

2011-10-02 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Hi Paul, Do you by chance have a dead preamp inline? I've had some fail that keep any signal from passing...it's worse than no preamp!! Just a thought... Drew's comment about polarity is a good one, too. Mark N8MH At 11:21 AM 10/2/2011 -0700, Paul Delaney - K6HR wrote: >Should I be able t

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01

2011-10-02 Thread James Duffey
Sebastion - Good points. Here are some more. The best contest and pileup ops are those that get it right the first time. If you ever see a video of a high rate contest station or DXpedition it doesn't seem like they are going that fast, but they are doing rates of 120+. They use their exchang

[amsat-bb] Operating practice on (mostly) FM sats

2011-10-02 Thread Michael Schulz
Hi, While we're at it talking about the AO-51 craziness at times (5 am passes are quite pleasant) I'd like to bring up another thing that constantly gets me which is not using phonetics for call signs. Just because it is a FM satellite doesn't mean everybody is clearly understandable and it makes

[amsat-bb] Re: Ham Sats Dead?

2011-10-02 Thread Clint Bradford
>> ... As wonderful as what you write is, I suspect it is not enough to sustain >> the satellite part of the hobby. First, YOU are to be commended for your support of AMSAT. I hope that all those who "got in" as Lifers back when it was really relatively inexpensive to do so still see to it that

[amsat-bb] Re: Hearing AO-51

2011-10-02 Thread Paul Delaney - K6HR
No I have not heard AO27 either, that explains it. Time for different antennas. Thanks for the info! - Original Message - From: Andrew Glasbrenner To: Paul Delaney - K6HR Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hearing AO-51 Your eggbeater is

[amsat-bb] Re: Hearing AO-51

2011-10-02 Thread Paul Delaney - K6HR
Hi Mark, Yes, the dead UHF preamp is still inline, but I was unable to hear AO-51 before I put up the preamp. I added the preamp (a bargain buy on ebay) but the preamp only worked for a few days before going dead. What do you think about an Elk at a fixed elevation on an azimuth only rotator?

[amsat-bb] Re: Operating practice on (mostly) FM sats

2011-10-02 Thread Jeff Moore
Phonetics should already be in use for the sats (I use phonetics all the time regardless of mode and band). It's probably a "hurry up and get it done" thing - operators don't want to bother using phonetics because it takes too long. I maintain that having to repeat yourself multiple times defe

[amsat-bb] Re: Hearing AO-51

2011-10-02 Thread Michael Schulz
On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 11:36 -0700, Clint Bradford wrote: > >> ... Should I be able to hear AO-51 using an eggbeater with no preamp?. > Just get a little "directionality" to your antenna ... Heck, we're working > the FM birds with Tape Measure Beams. And with > "better" HT antennas. And again I n

[amsat-bb] Re: EM53

2011-10-02 Thread Don Snider
Hi Damon, I'd like a QSL for EM53. I'd be happy to send you a SASE for it. Thanks for all your travels. What were you using for an antenna? 144 PH 10/01/11 2037 WA4HFN/P 59 FM27 59W EM53 AO-51 73, Don Snider N3MK - FM27 7465 Beebe Rd Chincoteague, VA 23336 -Origina

[amsat-bb] QSL Cards

2011-10-02 Thread Kevin Deane
I did keep a LITTLE better track this time, there were a few that didnt make it on the K8YSE's Rec page. Anyone wanting cards for these grids/dates please email info and I will send them out. I have AC0RA, K7TRK, KA6SIP already. SEP. 25 DM05/DM13 26 DM23 27,28,29DM13 30 DM06,