[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-14 Thread Alan P. Biddle
Bob, Many of those same radios are being sold through legitimate/commercial dealers for FRS/GMRS rigs. For instance, the same Puxing I use for a WIDE1-1 digi was bought in large numbers in the Palm Springs area for backup coms between all the gated communities in case of an earthquake. Alan WA4S

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-14 Thread Roger
During the last year's Hurricane in Connecticut, I was listening to Mom's Fire Dept scanner and there was a party harassing the fireman while they were responding to a call...he had a kid or girlfriend in the car you could hear giggling...after trying the tried and true ignoring him for about 1

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-14 Thread Joe
That is legal ONLY if they have been type accepted by the FCC for those services and at those prices I can almost guarantee they were not. Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 1/14/2012 11:03 AM, Alan P. Biddle wrote: Bob, Many of tho

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-14 Thread Joe
I would have bought one, Got all the info possible about the guy, and then when got home turned him in to the FCC. Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 1/14/2012 10:48 AM, Bob Bruninga wrote: Went to local flea market today (34F degr

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-14 Thread Alan P. Biddle
2 12:13 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates That is legal ONLY if they have been type accepted by the FCC for those services and at those prices I can almost guarantee they were not. Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-ty

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-14 Thread Clint Bradford
>> ... Many of those same radios are being sold through legitimate/commercial >> dealers ... OK so far ... >> ... for FRS/GMRS rigs ... Not OK - they are not legal for either the GMRS nor the FRS. >> ... the same Puxing ... was bought in large numbers in the Palm Springs area >> for backup co

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-15 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:05 AM 1/15/2012, Clint Bradford wrote: >> ... Many of those same radios are being sold through legitimate/commercial dealers ... OK so far ... >> ... for FRS/GMRS rigs ... Not OK - they are not legal for either the GMRS nor the FRS. We've had similar issues over here with UHF CB, wher

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-15 Thread Clint Bradford
>> ... Sounds like your FCC needs to take a similar approach and jump on these >> sales. I am not a "radio cop" nor an "FCC cop" (and you didn't say I was, either). But it really bugs me to see otherwise honest folks selling these radios as "Ham / MURS / FRS / GMRS / Marine" rigs. And/or hams u

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-15 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On 14/01/12 19:05, Clint Bradford wrote: The day my community uses Wouxun/Puxing products for ANY facet of community service is the day I move. AFTER educating the powers-that-be of the dire consequences of using sub-par equipment to protect their constituents. What would you rather they use

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-15 Thread Clint Bradford
>> ... Motorola, which generally ship massively out-of-spec ... I am so sorry that you do not have first-hand experience as I have (working for Motorola for a couple of years, and supplying radios to not only law enforcement and public service entities in this country, but also to the private s

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-16 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On 16/01/12 00:27, Ted wrote: 'I'd take the cheapie chinese radios any day'. Perhaps that is the mentality that makes the EU economic model the mess that it is today. Also, any, and I mean any economist will tell you that in hard times the average consumer (which includes notoriously cheap hams

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-16 Thread Andre
Op 16-1-2012 22:13, Gordon JC Pearce schreef: ANY of these POS non type certified radios have no place in our community. It's CEPT and CE approved, good enough for me. CE is not realy worth anything, all it means is that the manufactor claims not to use toxic paints and stuff like that, it is

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-16 Thread Joe
And the Chinese have a excellent record in meeting that requirement don't they? :-) I love the latest contaminated item from them. Radioactive tissue holders.. Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 1/16/2012 3:41 PM, Andre wrote: Op 1

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-16 Thread Gregg Wonderly
On 1/16/2012 3:13 PM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: On 16/01/12 00:27, Ted wrote: 'I'd take the cheapie chinese radios any day'. Perhaps that is the mentality that makes the EU economic model the mess that it is today. Also, any, and I mean any economist will tell you that in hard times the average

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates

2012-01-17 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On 17/01/12 03:42, Gregg Wonderly wrote: The biggest issue that causes recession and then depression in the economy, is when the value in the economy out strips the cash available to support that value. When everyone buys the "cheapest" item, and it is a defective item, that then doesn't live lo