Re: [Amsn-devel] TCL or Python in aMSN2 (Pros and Cons)

2006-08-20 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:41:22 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Youness Alaoui) wrote: > Ok, is there any 'python like' language which allows for a 'normal' syntax? :P > hehe, anyways, as I said in my previous mail, we should compare with other > languages too, and as I said, since almost all modules (or w

Re: [Amsn-devel] TCL or Python in aMSN2 (Pros and Cons)

2006-08-20 Thread Philippe Khalaf
rest was very positive. Regards, Philippe > > KKRT > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 12:05:33PM -0400, Philippe Khalaf wrote: > > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:30:46 -0400 > > "Madd Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You mean python cons where you s

Re: [Amsn-devel] TCL or Python in aMSN2 (Pros and Cons)

2006-08-20 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:18:11 +0200 Harry Vennik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Op zondag 20 augustus 2006 18:05, schreef Philippe Khalaf: > > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:30:46 -0400 > > > > "Madd Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You

Re: [Amsn-devel] TCL or Python in aMSN2 (Pros and Cons)

2006-08-20 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, > > - faster development than TCL or most any other languages > Any motivation for that? http://edok01.tib.uni-hannover.de/edoks/e001/327614196.pdf This is a phd thesis, from this document we can see that: - Python is faster than TCL (figure 1, 2, 4, 6) - Python uses less memory (figure 8) -

Re: [Amsn-devel] TCL or Python in aMSN2 (Pros and Cons)

2006-08-20 Thread Philippe Khalaf
about to start writing my own > python msn client, but I'll help this one instead if that language is > picked. > > On 8/19/06, Philippe Khalaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I reread all posts about this, and here is what I got : > > &

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-20 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:13:14 +0200 Philippe Valembois - Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who said that the whole project will be in C ??? > Only you ! What will be in C/C++ : DBUS bindings and GUI modules for GTK/QT And the protocol backend (libmsn), and the connection manager for MSN. That means

[Amsn-devel] TCL or Python in aMSN2 (Pros and Cons)

2006-08-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, I reread all posts about this, and here is what I got : Quick summary of what was said until now. -- TCL PROS in aMSN2 -- - No need for anyone to learn any new language (good & bad reason) - If people learn a new language, the intial code will probably be crap (good reason, but i

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:20:22 +0200 Philippe Valembois - Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You get the principle but I would like to do something better than using > callbacks for events... Or at least use an event layer between GUI and proc > that do the things... > I think XML2GUI should be a r

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
006 at 04:38:10PM +0200, Ole Andr? Vadla Ravn?s wrote: > > On 8/19/06, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 03:48:06AM +0200, Ole Andr? Vadla Ravn?s wrote: > > >> On 8/19/06, Philippe Khalaf <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
006 at 04:38:10PM +0200, Ole Andr? Vadla Ravn?s wrote: > > On 8/19/06, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 03:48:06AM +0200, Ole Andr? Vadla Ravn?s wrote: > > >> On 8/19/06, Philippe Khalaf <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:37:45 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Youness Alaoui) wrote: > AFAIK there are some tools that automatically generate C code for binding any > function from a C library, this can be > used in order to quickly generate the bindings... What tools? They will generate bindings for T

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:50:37 -0400 Philippe Khalaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > still work on aMSN1. Added avantage is easy porting to another toolkit. > If someone decides he wants a GTK+ aMSN2, he can fork the Python core > and write his own UI. s/GTK+/QT Regards, Philipp

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-18 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:37:45 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Youness Alaoui) wrote: > AFAIK there are some tools that automatically generate C code for binding any > function from a C library, this can be > used in order to quickly generate the bindings... What tools? They will generate bindings for T

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-18 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 03:01:37 +0200 Harry Vennik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The last serious issue is with the choice of using TCL. TK is > > getting dumped, so might as well dump TCL. Why? Your proposal involves > > writing a lot of bindings! Bindings for D-Bus and bindings for > > wxWindows.

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-18 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:50:37 -0400 Philippe Khalaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > still work on aMSN1. Added avantage is easy porting to another toolkit. > If someone decides he wants a GTK+ aMSN2, he can fork the Python core > and write his own UI. s/GTK+/QT Regards, Philipp

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-18 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:21:15 +0200 Harry Vennik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Finally I found some time to document some of my ideas in more detail. The > result is this new draft. Quite a lot changed since the previous one, and it > will change again in the next drafts (at least on

Re: [Amsn-devel] Dutch Summer of Code

2006-06-20 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 23:11:56 +0200 Harry Vennik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Roelof, > > Welcome to the team! > > I am also working hard on amsn2, be it quietly at the moment. I am mainly > focussing at the GUI framework. Currently I am working on a design (and some > PoC implementation, wh

Re: [Amsn-devel] Dutch Summer of Code

2006-06-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 23:11:56 +0200 Harry Vennik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Roelof, > > Welcome to the team! > > I am also working hard on amsn2, be it quietly at the moment. I am mainly > focussing at the GUI framework. Currently I am working on a design (and some > PoC implementation, wh

Re: [Amsn-devel] Dutch Summer of Code

2006-06-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:31:38 -0400 Philippe Khalaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:23:26 +0200 > Philippe Valembois - Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Welcome ! > > Don't worry... If you have any question and Sander isn't here,

Re: [Amsn-devel] Dutch Summer of Code

2006-06-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:23:26 +0200 Philippe Valembois - Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Welcome ! > Don't worry... If you have any question and Sander isn't here, you can always > try the channel on IRC... There are always few people sitting in it... > Else, try a mail to the devel list ;) > If

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 and Telepathy

2006-06-05 Thread Philippe Khalaf
e. Regards, Philippe On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:32:10 -0400 Philippe Khalaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, >I have been reading the mailing list and I gather that people are > getting rather bored. But the main problem is that everyone seems to be > busy. In any case, I have se

Re: [Amsn-devel] (no subject)

2006-06-05 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Only on amsn-devel would such an email generate such a long thread... Laterz, Burger On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 20:23:19 +0200 Harry Vennik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Op vrijdag 2 juni 2006 20:11, schreef Youness Alaoui: > > lol, come on, people don't know what an automated message is ? they relaly >

Re: [Amsn-devel] programmeerzomer.nl project proposals

2006-06-02 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, Python -> faster developpement time C/Glib -> better performance Writing it in C/Glib means it will run nearly everywhere (embedded device or not). In Python it will run much slower. The D-Bus bindings are better on Python than GLib, but they are good enough on GLib that we wrote a whole xmp

Re: [Amsn-devel] stats anyone ?

2006-06-01 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hey, Those are OK but if you want real SVN stats there is only one way :P http://ehr.gplmedicine.org/index.php/Chart_SVN,_SVK_and_ViewVC But you need to be motivated to do it. Regards, Philippe On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 00:52:59 -0400 "Youness Alaoui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hey, look at what

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 and Telepathy

2006-05-24 Thread Philippe Khalaf
snit (like the clgui.tcl) and tkhtml for some fancy stuff > like bg images, and we got ourself a nice GUI... then we'll move the > events from protocol.tcl into telepathy2amsncore.c > > KKRT > > On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:32:10 -0400, Philippe Khalaf > <[EMAIL P

[Amsn-devel] aMSN2 and Telepathy

2006-05-24 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, I have been reading the mailing list and I gather that people are getting rather bored. But the main problem is that everyone seems to be busy. In any case, I have sent a similar email before but I am doing it again. Now Telepathy is at a different stage of it's life. It's actually working n

[Amsn-devel] New feature suggestion

2006-05-03 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, I have not been following the new features very closely. But an idea came to mind when talking to a friend the other day. This guy changes his nickname like everyday depending on his mood and girlfriend and stuff. Wouldn't it be a good idea to log these nickname changes with date/timestamps?

Re: [Amsn-devel] Rewrite msncam.tcl

2006-05-01 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Mon, 01 May 2006 14:42:29 -0400 "Youness Alaoui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 01 May 2006 13:37:04 -0400, Philippe Khalaf > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:44:19 -0400 > > "Youness Alaoui" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [Amsn-devel] Rewrite msncam.tcl

2006-05-01 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:44:19 -0400 "Youness Alaoui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we connect to the reflector and get the information from there and send it > to farsight (yes, done in the beggining, just as MSN does) > we then ask farsight to 'prepare_transports', once they are ready (known >

Re: [Amsn-devel] farsight

2006-03-27 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, I had already written the tcl wrapper for msn webcam. Since I used Farsight for testing the old msn webcam plugin. Problem is the msn webcam plugin has never been update to the new farsight API therefore it wouldn't work with the new core. Now, I wonder where that wrapper is (it was pretty

Re: [Amsn-devel] farsight

2006-03-24 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, I had already written the tcl wrapper for msn webcam. Since I used Farsight for testing the old msn webcam plugin. Problem is the msn webcam plugin has never been update to the new farsight API therefore it wouldn't work with the new core. Now, I wonder where that wrapper is (it was pretty

Re: [Amsn-devel] Interview

2006-03-11 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hey, I heard the interview :) Pretty cool didn't know about it. Who was the first person on that interview? Laterz, Burger On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:01:25 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Youness Alaoui) wrote: > You traitor!!! > :( > > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 02:38:57PM +0200, Vivia Nikolaidou wrot

Re: [Amsn-devel] Interview

2006-03-10 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hey, I heard the interview :) Pretty cool didn't know about it. Who was the first person on that interview? Laterz, Burger On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:01:25 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Youness Alaoui) wrote: > You traitor!!! > :( > > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 02:38:57PM +0200, Vivia Nikolaidou wrot

Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] OT : Fwd: des caricatures représentant le Prophète Mohamed salla ALLAH alih wa sallam

2006-02-09 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, Both Arieh and Youness have turned this into a personal issue. Arieh, you crossed the line. Youness apologized for his comment and he just talked fast and didn't notice. I also replied to his comments. There was no need to keep up on the issue, as he explained exactly what he meant. He was

Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] OT : Fwd: des caricatures représentant le Prophète Mohamed salla ALLAH alih wa sallam

2006-02-08 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, > Youness I apologise if you understood my comments to mean that you are > racist, that is not what they were meant to mean. Thank you for being a good participant. > You say that you have no idea about the situation but still insist that it > is the Israelis that are oppressing. Well, I hav

Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] OT : Fwd: des caricatures représentant le Prophète Mohamed salla ALLAH alih wa sallam

2006-02-07 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, Both Arieh and Youness have turned this into a personal issue. Arieh, you crossed the line. Youness apologized for his comment and he just talked fast and didn't notice. I also replied to his comments. There was no need to keep up on the issue, as he explained exactly what he meant. He was

Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] OT : Fwd: des caricatures représentant le Prophète Mohamed salla ALLAH alih wa sallam

2006-02-07 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, > Be careful with what you say, you just shocked me ! > You say I quote : "200 are killed by Bush and Jews". Israël is Jude but Jews > aren't Israël there are many Jews in other places of the world and they don't > ask anything to anybody ! Well obviously he meant Israelis, and all Israelis

Re: [Amsn-devel] OT : Fwd: des caricatures représen tant le Prophète Mohamed salla ALLAH alih wa sallam

2006-02-07 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hey, I didn't want to get into this, but it's hard to resist :P In my opinion, Muslims have done exactly what they shouldn't have done. I am Christian by birth, don't believe in religion, and most of my friend are Muslim, even though I sound harsh, I hope Muslim readers don't take this in an off

Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] OT : Fwd: des caricatures représentant le Prophète Mohamed salla ALLAH alih wa sallam

2006-02-06 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, > Be careful with what you say, you just shocked me ! > You say I quote : "200 are killed by Bush and Jews". Israël is Jude but Jews > aren't Israël there are many Jews in other places of the world and they don't > ask anything to anybody ! Well obviously he meant Israelis, and all Israelis

Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] OT : Fwd: des caricatures représentant le Prophète Mohamed salla ALLAH alih wa sallam

2006-02-06 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Yo, > Phil, too bad you're not understanding this the same way as I do.. you > can't ask people to stay quiet.. not after everything that's happening.. > how many muslims have died because some country loves to kill muslims.. > how many muslims live a horrible life because they are opressed

Re: [Amsn-devel] OT : Fwd: des caricatures représen tant le Prophète Mohamed salla ALLAH alih wa sallam

2006-02-06 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hey, I didn't want to get into this, but it's hard to resist :P In my opinion, Muslims have done exactly what they shouldn't have done. I am Christian by birth, don't believe in religion, and most of my friend are Muslim, even though I sound harsh, I hope Muslim readers don't take this in an off

[Amsn-devel] congrats 0.95

2005-12-26 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hey guys, I would like to congratulate everyone on the 0.95 release. It was a good effort and combined with the new website gives it all a new fresh look. Laterz, Burger --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through