Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-23 Thread Harry Vennik
Op zondag 23 juli 2006 07:05, schreef Youness Alaoui: > Humm.. ok, and with all the critics we had so far because of Tk, I think > it would be better if we choose something that really is > gtk/qt/native... > You say nothing else does support multiple toolkits.. maybe you just > didn't find the pro

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-23 Thread Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
MAC OS X is also required. JérômeCourriel:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]MSN Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]iChat & AIM:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Skype: germinator5000 Le 23 juillet 2006 à 05:53, Max a écrit :Sorry for posting to the ML in the devel topic, i don't really know the policy about it... I never heard of any

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-23 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Le Sunday 23 July 2006 11:53, Max a écrit : > Sorry for posting to the ML in the devel topic, i don't really know the > policy about it... I never heard of any xml2gui solution that was able to > manage differents toolkits in the same time but i think you could use > libglade for gtk and qt designe

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-23 Thread Max
Sorry for posting to the ML in the devel topic, i don't really know the policy about it... I never heard of any xml2gui solution that was able to manage differents toolkits in the same time but i think you could use libglade for gtk and qt designer ui for qt in order to develop two xml gui for bot

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-22 Thread Youness Alaoui
Humm.. ok, and with all the critics we had so far because of Tk, I think it would be better if we choose something that really is gtk/qt/native... You say nothing else does support multiple toolkits.. maybe you just didn't find the product that does it yet... so searching a bit more might give

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI and AMSN2 - First draft

2006-07-22 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Le Saturday 22 July 2006 00:11, Roelof Kemp a écrit : > Hi, > > Hereby I sent my current ('in progress') version of the msnlib design. I > hope this one makes more sense than the first ;-) . Again, I appreciate > your comments very much! > > The discussion about aMSN2 is very interesting. I hope to

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI and AMSN2 - First draft

2006-07-22 Thread Roelof Kemp
Hi, Hereby I sent my current ('in progress') version of the msnlib design. I hope this one makes more sense than the first ;-) . Again, I appreciate your comments very much! The discussion about aMSN2 is very interesting. I hope to be there on IRC (at least to listen). Roelof (The document i

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-22 Thread Harry Vennik
Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 21:58, schreef Harry Vennik: > > Yeah if you like XULRunner why not... I don't try to force using of > > TkHtml but I think (as it was said some months ago) that a multi-GUI soft > > would be great as you could use XULRunner and we could use TkHtml and > > with that we don'

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI and AMSN2 - First draft

2006-07-22 Thread roelof
Hi, Hereby I sent my current ('in progress') version of the msnlib design. I hope this one makes more sense than the first ;-). Again, I appreciate your comments very much! The discussion about aMSN2 is very interesting. I hope to be there on IRC (at least to listen). Roelof (The document is

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI and AMSN2 - First draft

2006-07-20 Thread Boris Faure (aka billiob)
I'll be there ! 2006/7/20, Philippe Valembois - Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > Well I agree to discuss it on IRC > But for that we will need an hour ;) > (Not a Rendez-vous :p) > As it will be friday : I hope being able to sleep later than other days > (parents want me to be at bed too early :s

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI and AMSN2 - First draft

2006-07-20 Thread Youness Alaoui
Humm.. I don't think I could.. many reasons : 1 - I don't have time to do this from work 2 - my new PC *should* be finally ready friday, but I won't get it until late in the afternoon 3 - Friday, I'll be in a protest in front of Israel's consul in Montreal against the holocaust they're inflincti

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI and AMSN2 - First draft

2006-07-20 Thread Harry Vennik
Op donderdag 20 juli 2006 21:30, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil: > Hi, > Well I agree to discuss it on IRC > But for that we will need an hour ;) > (Not a Rendez-vous :p) > As it will be friday : I hope being able to sleep later than other days > (parents want me to be at bed too early :s) > I c

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI and AMSN2 - First draft

2006-07-20 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Hi, Well I agree to discuss it on IRC But for that we will need an hour ;) (Not a Rendez-vous :p) As it will be friday : I hope being able to sleep later than other days (parents want me to be at bed too early :s) I could be here from 22h30 GMT+2 (16h30 Montreal) up to 00h00 (maybe 01h00) GMT+2 (

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
You both do have your points, my opinion is not to take any sides.. I do like TkHtml and I respect your work on it, but I also respect Harry's research, analysis and decisions... I do agree that using something existing is better than rewriting everything ourselves, but it is always depending o

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 09:58:30PM +0200, Harry Vennik wrote: > > > > As the name suggests XML2GUI is a way to render a GUI as described in a > > > XML file. So XULRunner is an example of an implementation of such a > > > thing. 'Our' XML2GUI was an idea, not some part of code, even though > > > t

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 09:44:17PM +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: > Le Wednesday 19 July 2006 21:38, Harry Vennik a ?crit?: > > Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 21:14, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil: > > > > This is just a name collision. The XML2GUI that was to be designed by > > > > us is not

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
Yes Phil, it is as you said, and it should be developped by us, but I asked for a research to be made to see what already exists... il ne faut pas reinventer la roue... if it already exists, then use it, that's why Harry tried to find what alternatives we had... it could save us a lot of time..

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Bruno Costa
On 7/19/06, Harry Vennik <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 21:14, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil:> > > render the widgets described in the XML> > > For XUL : and for Youness it's decided on the compil time : can you> > > switch from GTK2 to QT in Firefox ? No. (By the way

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Harry Vennik
Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 21:14, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil: > > > render the widgets described in the XML > > > For XUL : and for Youness it's decided on the compil time : can you > > > switch from GTK2 to QT in Firefox ? No. (By the way is there a QT > > > engine for XUL ?) Phil > > > >

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Harry Vennik
> > As the name suggests XML2GUI is a way to render a GUI as described in a > > XML file. So XULRunner is an example of an implementation of such a > > thing. 'Our' XML2GUI was an idea, not some part of code, even though > > there has been work (by me) on a piece of code to implement that idea, >

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Le Wednesday 19 July 2006 21:38, Harry Vennik a écrit : > Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 21:14, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil: > > > This is just a name collision. The XML2GUI that was to be designed by > > > us is not the same as the one in the sum up. > > > > So there isn't any trouble if we do how

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Harry Vennik
Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 21:14, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil: > > This is just a name collision. The XML2GUI that was to be designed by us > > is not the same as the one in the sum up. > > So there isn't any trouble if we do how we said some months ago : XML2GUI > (ours) to tie aMSN and the GU

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Le Wednesday 19 July 2006 21:08, Harry Vennik a écrit : > Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 20:58, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil: > > Well, some errors in the sum up : > > For TkHtml : " - It's still TK, any form element for example is still an > > ugly TK widget." > > Wrong because it's you who handle

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Harry Vennik
Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 20:58, schreef Philippe Valembois - Phil: > Well, some errors in the sum up : > For TkHtml : " - It's still TK, any form element for example is still an > ugly TK widget." > Wrong because it's you who handle these tags and you can create another > widget : why not a pixmap

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-19 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Well, some errors in the sum up : For TkHtml : " - It's still TK, any form element for example is still an ugly TK widget." Wrong because it's you who handle these tags and you can create another widget : why not a pixmap widget ? For XML2GUI : Are you sure you understood XML2GUI ? For me, XML2GU

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI

2006-07-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
Thanks Harry for your explanations! It is indeed good to see all that info summarized in one place... question : are you sure that's ALL there is ? I saw a lot of stuff in "GUI Builders" category of wiki.tcl.tk question : XULRunner supports many different toolkits, but can we choose which one we

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI (was: aMSN2 and Telepathy)

2006-06-08 Thread Youness Alaoui
the xml files glade2 >> > generates >> > (.glade) could be a start for the xml's format rules of xml2gui... >> > >> > On 6/8/06, NoWhereMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> - Original Message - >> >> From: "Harry Ve

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI (was: aMSN2 and Telepathy)

2006-06-08 Thread Harry Vennik
iginal Message - > >> From: "Harry Vennik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN" > >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:49 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI (was: aMSN2 and Telepa

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI (was: aMSN2 and Telepathy)

2006-06-08 Thread Youness Alaoui
;> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Harry Vennik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN" >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI (was: aM

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI (was: aMSN2 and Telepathy)

2006-06-08 Thread Max
"Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN"< amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:49 PMSubject: Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI (was: aMSN2 and Telepathy)[...]> Also I looked at some not Tcl-related implementations, but they're simply >

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI (was: aMSN2 and Telepathy)

2006-06-07 Thread NoWhereMan
- Original Message - From: "Harry Vennik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN" Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI (was: aMSN2 and Telepathy) [...] > Also I looked at some no

Re: [Amsn-devel] XML2GUI (was: aMSN2 and Telepathy)

2006-06-06 Thread Harry Vennik
Op dinsdag 6 juni 2006 19:52, schreef Youness Alaoui: > On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:24:24 -0400, Harry Vennik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > Op maandag 5 juni 2006 22:07, schreef Philippe Khalaf: > >> Hi, > >>Well after seeing that long thread about languages, it kinda feels > >> like there is n