[android-developers] Re: Text blinking effect TextView

2010-07-31 Thread Doug
Try posting a series of delayed messages or runnables to a handler that alter the TextView in sequence as you need. On Jul 29, 9:21 am, Huynh Ngoc Vu Nguyen wrote: > Please let me know! How to make text blinking effect in TextView? > I am using Android SDK 2.2. -- You received this message beca

[android-developers] Re: Transfer database file to Android

2010-07-27 Thread Doug Gordon
s data files on the SD card?  This > might be a setup that the old time Palm users (such as myself :*) are > comfortable with. > > On Jul 27, 7:04 am, Doug Gordon wrote: > > > > > Actually not that large by today's standards -- just in the low > > megabytes (&

[android-developers] Re: Transfer database file to Android

2010-07-27 Thread Doug Gordon
Actually not that large by today's standards -- just in the low megabytes (<10 Mb I'd guess). The reason for the uncertainty is that it entirely depends on how much data the user has in their original database, which can vary widely. I can understand the web server solution, and of course I alread

[android-developers] Re: Transfer database file to Android

2010-07-26 Thread Doug Gordon
e for secure storage of files that can be uploaded from a PC and then downloaded by an Android device? Does Google provide anything like this? Doug Gordon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this

[android-developers] Transfer database file to Android

2010-07-25 Thread Doug Gordon
o store the converted file out in the "cloud" somewhere and then have my app retrieve it from there. Any ideas or suggestions on this would be appreciated! Doug Gordon GHCS Systems -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers&quo

[android-developers] Necessary to close SQLite database?

2010-07-22 Thread Doug Gordon
s the Notepad tutorial and SearchableDictionary sample do not do this. I've also seen sample code where the database is consistently opened, read from, and closed, but that would seem to add unnecessary overhead. Doug Gordon GHCS Systems -- You received this message because you are subscri

[android-developers] Re: monetizing apps with a subscription model or in-app purchases

2010-07-22 Thread Doug
just read the Market developer agreement today and I don't believe there are restrictions from you from managing sales within your app. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email t

[android-developers] Re: how do you guys feel about the develop tools?

2010-07-22 Thread Doug
Please explain to me "millions of c++ projects"! Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email

[android-developers] Detect phone feature usage

2010-07-09 Thread doug
any given app. Android OS certainly knows about everything an app does but I wonder if there is any hooks to get that knowledge using the SDK. If it is not possible to do this using SDK, I would appreciate information on where in the OS I can add my hook. Thanks, doug -- You received this

[android-developers] Re: Best way for web service calls ??

2010-06-12 Thread doug
Check out this guy - http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/sessions/developing-RESTful-android-apps.html Even though he sounds like a cross between Yoda and Grover. On Jun 11, 7:37 am, StillALearner wrote: > Thanks Paul, >  "Everything else seems a bit too heavy" > Thats the exact concern for w

[android-developers] Re: Map is not dispalying in the android emulator

2010-06-07 Thread doug
Some hoops to jump through: - You have to add this to the manifest as a child of : - You have to add this to the manifest as a child of : - You have to extend MapActivity, not Activity (you get an exception to this effect otherwise) - You have to change the build target to Google APIs Add-on as e

[android-developers] open gl alpha blending problem on Sony Ericsson X10

2010-05-12 Thread Doug
I wrote a simple opengl program for testing alpha blending(translucence). The program could show the correct alpha blending on the emulator. But on Sony Ericsson X10 phone, alpha blending doesn't work. I used glMaterialfv() to set the alpha value, like the following code: float diff[] = {

[android-developers] How to get & use widgets in eclipse android emulator?

2010-05-03 Thread doug
dgets that came with the HTC phone? How about downloaded free widgets and where are they stored on the phone? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, se

[android-developers] accessing android widgets for development purposes

2010-05-03 Thread doug
, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For mo

[android-developers] How to detect Bluetooth headset key press

2010-04-28 Thread Doug
at kind of press it was(regular, long press etc). Thanks! Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email t

[android-developers] ImageView - Can't read dimensions

2010-04-02 Thread Doug Linhardt
I am trying to display an image at different scales within an ImageView which is part of a larger LinearLayout. Unfortunately, when trying to calculate scaling factors, I am unable to read the ImageView's dimensions. The following code displays "Screen: 0, 0" in the TextView, rather than the dime

[android-developers] Re: No Network Connectivity in Service/AlarmManager Process.

2010-03-25 Thread Doug
(because it can) WiFi may come into service before the response has been received. Depending on timing, I've seen this situation "break" the cellular data connection, forcing my app to re-run the query. Doug On Mar 24, 8:51 pm, AuxOne wrote: > Just to let you know, I experime

[android-developers] Re: Application losing SharedPreferences and Sqlite database on Droid

2010-03-24 Thread Doug
27;t switched off until I noticed the issue and tried to resolve it myself with a reboot. Doug On Mar 14, 6:19 pm, "Matt (preinvent)" wrote: > > ForSharedPreferencesthis isn't unheard of but I'd question an issue > > with SQLite. Perhaps users got

[android-developers] Ways of keeping the device awake...

2010-02-16 Thread Doug
1. WakeLock 2. Window Flag 3. "Keep screen on when charging" setting 4. Code currently executing in a WakeLock protected callback (i.e. Broadcast receivers "onReceive" method) 5. Other (I guess #2 and #3 probably keep a wakelock in the background) Are there other ways of keeping the phone awa

[android-developers] setUserAgentString not affecting browser user agent

2010-02-04 Thread doug
etSettings().getUserAgentString() the application returns "Foo-Bar/" as the UserAgent, but when I load a url that specifically tells me the User Agent String: webview.loadUrl("http://myurl.com";); The browser is announcing itself with the default UserAgent string. Any ideas? Thanks Doug

[android-developers] Re: switching between cellular network and wi-fi

2010-02-03 Thread Doug
d when bearers come and go. (Assuming of course the bearer associated with the connection is still valid :) ) Doug On Feb 3, 9:38 pm, subho wrote: > This info is really of great help. > I'm still not able to complete the testing with our set up.So i'll > definitely verify th

[android-developers] Re: switching between cellular network and wi-fi

2010-02-03 Thread Doug
get NULL if there is no connectivity or a "NetworkInfo" object if there is. (I have to use this second method at app startup as the broadcast is not one of those that gets Cached by the OS) Take a look at the android.net.ConnectivityManager documentation - there may be useful info in there fo

[android-developers] Re: Forcibly using 3G or CDMA network even though wi-fi is available.

2010-02-02 Thread Doug
atus quo) Its not like you'd be leading in this area - many (most?) of the other mobile platforms allow an app (either programmatically or via configuration) to specify which data services it will use - regardless of the presence of other options. Doug On Feb 2, 9:35 pm, Kevin Duffey wrote:

[android-developers] Re: switching between cellular network and wi-fi

2010-02-01 Thread Doug
and you'll need to initiate it again over the new bearer. i.e. * Connected via 3G * Send HTTP GET to web site * Phone switches to WiFi * 3G connection dropped That's my experience anyway :) Doug On Feb 1, 2:24 am, subho wrote: > Does android framework support automatic switch t

[android-developers] Re: Working in Windows 2000

2010-01-21 Thread Doug Aitken
Guich, Ubuntu (or even Xubuntu, to run something lighter) will work really well for you if you can do that. On Jan 18, 10:19 pm, "guiha...@gmail.com" wrote: > Thanks for all suggestions. I'll try to run linux, either in a > partition or in virtualbox. > > cheers > >     guich -- You received th

[android-developers] Re: HTC Hero (and others) and 100% Awake Time

2010-01-09 Thread Doug
yone knows of a secret code (or whatever) that can cause this method to be invoked On Jan 9, 5:28 am, MrChaz wrote: > Maybe your app running it coincidently causing a problem with > something in the SenseUI widgets - they do fancy stuff with messages > etc don't they? >

[android-developers] HTC Hero (and others) and 100% Awake Time

2010-01-08 Thread Doug
nything. Unless there is a WakeLock being held somewhere... that the mere startup of my app causes to be 'acquired'. If anyone has any ideas - feel free to voice them. If anyone can comment on whether they have encountered (and resolved) this problem I'd be grateful to hear from yo

[android-developers] Re: Problem with Password Reset Captcha

2010-01-08 Thread Doug
My previous message is not an Android message. I thought I was sending my previous message to the group moderator, not to the whole group. Sorry for any confusion. Doug Wong On Jan 8, 11:09 am, "Wong, Douglas" wrote: > I was trying to post a response to a message, but I had

[android-developers] Android 2.x - Lost the ability to route audio

2009-12-24 Thread Doug
This could be considered a bump, as my previous post (regarding audio on 1.6 never got a response - see http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/f6b8a70acef0636a/617d1aa3af991f68?lnk=gst&q=audio+routing#617d1aa3af991f68 ) never got a response. In Android 1.5 we had th

[android-developers] Re: ADC2 is over - Devs, check your e-mail spam folder

2009-11-25 Thread Doug
Yeah, I found it quite ironic that "official" Google mail got spam- blocked in its own email product. Twice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubs

[android-developers] Re: SoundPool problem

2009-11-18 Thread Doug
You just made my day. On Nov 18, 8:44 am, Wayne Wenthin wrote: > I may be wrong but I thought I read that the ADC2 was restricted and will > not run on 2.0. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email

[android-developers] Re: SoundPool problem

2009-11-18 Thread Doug
YES YES YES. This is particularly disappointing to me (that mp3 doesn't work with SoundPool on 2.0). I have an entry in ADC2 that relies heavily on mp3/SoundPool that works fine with all phones EXCEPT the recently produced Droid which runs 2.0. I'm sure it will kill my application's chances in t

[android-developers] Android 2.0 (eclair) source

2009-10-28 Thread Doug
Any idea when the eclair source will be available via git? If I try to init a repo with "-b eclair" I get an error stating that the manifest is missing. If I init a repo to head there doesn't seem to be much/any eclair code in there. Why do I ask? Well, the docs looks like they're still in the p

[android-developers] Re: Interrupting the app uninstaller

2009-10-26 Thread Doug
Uninstall selected (however it may be done) * PackageManager starts uninstall process * PackageManager checks for app specified string resource, if found, display popup with that text in it * PackageManager completes uninstall Doug On Oct 25, 5:22 am, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > Absolutely no way

[android-developers] Re: Exception - can anyone make sense of this?

2009-10-14 Thread Doug
rawable is actually that of a directory. Passing it an actual FILE name would be a better option :) Doug On Oct 14, 3:36 am, Neilz wrote: > Hi. I'm hoping someone can help identify the cause of an exception I'm > getting. It happens when I use a SimpleCursorAdapter to set up a list &

[android-developers] Re: Should we still force our apps to API level 2?

2009-10-14 Thread Doug
method has been 'modified' so that it has effectively become: @Deprecated public method() { return; } So, if you're unsure, or your "Compatibility" code which is still using the older (now deprecated) methods/classes suddenly starts misbehaving - download the Android

[android-developers] Re: Audio Routing in 1.6

2009-10-05 Thread Doug
Update... The android.jar (1.6) distributed as part of the Mac Eclipse bundle doesn't contain the WiredHeadset methods, but the source does seem to have it... is this just a distro issue? Doug On Oct 5, 1:20 pm, Doug wrote: > My application uses a MediaPlayer object to play MP3 fil

[android-developers] Audio Routing in 1.6

2009-10-05 Thread Doug
On (or handset, whatever) - MISSING, and not even documented! v) There doesn't seem to be a way to specify just which kind of audio I'm trying to adjust (unless the 'setMode' method is app vs system specific). Any thoughts on how I

[android-developers] Re: Changing audio path to earpiece from speakerphone

2009-09-01 Thread Doug
Have you checked that your app has the following permission: MODIFY_AUDIO_SETTINGS ?? Just a thought... On Sep 1, 6:13 am, CR wrote: > Thanks for your response. I am trying this on the G1, and it is not > working for me. > > On Aug 31, 7:03 pm, Doug wrote: > > > &

[android-developers] Re: Changing audio path to earpiece from speakerphone

2009-08-31 Thread Doug
PS: MODE_NORMAL is basically the routing mode for "Media" - such as music, or stuff that's played using the mediaplayer classes... On Aug 31, 4:01 pm, Doug wrote: > Well, this code is kinda correct - although you shouldn't be using > 'am' for the static val

[android-developers] Re: Changing audio path to earpiece from speakerphone

2009-08-31 Thread Doug
... that's just me being picky :) What kind of device are you trying this on? I ask, because I have some code that does EXACTLY the same and although it seems to be working just fine on the G1, there have been problems reported with the myTouch just ignoring requests like this. Doug On

[android-developers] What Happened to Android Discuss Group?

2009-08-25 Thread Doug
I also subscribe to the Android Discuss group. I clicked on a post in today's email update and got a message saying "Cannot find android- discuss ... There is no group named android-discuss". There were a couple of threads I was watching. Anyone know what happened? --~--~-~--~~-

[android-developers] Re: onCreate -Prob?

2009-08-24 Thread Doug
I suspect from your logging that your code may be trying to hit up a system service before the activity has it's context set up correctly. Basically, you can't do anything that requires Context until your 'onCreate()' method is called (you can do it *in* onCreate, just not before). On Aug 24, 12:

[android-developers] Re: ListView with multiple buttons, how do I detect which View the buttons were pressed in?

2009-08-24 Thread Doug
object you could store the object itself in there, using the ListActivity as your list! Doug On Aug 23, 2:13 pm, Croccy22 wrote: > Hi thanks for the reply, > > I've set an onClickListener and it's only parameter is View. The > problem is  don't know how to transla

[android-developers] Re: Google Dev Phone unavavailable! will they extend ADC II deadline..who to ask?!

2009-08-15 Thread Doug
I have "more or less" an ADP for the same price as an ADP. Doug On Aug 15, 9:39 am, Disconnect wrote: > Who were you told by? > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Christine wrote: > > > There will be an ADP2, I was told. I have no clue as to when that will

[android-developers] Re: Launching/Installing an APK with command-line like options

2009-08-12 Thread Doug
ndor specific" details to a place that the "real" app can use 2. Start a "market:" intent - so all the user needs to do is tap the "Install" button from the market. I have a feeling that going through all the steps to download and install from a non-market sourc

[android-developers] Launching/Installing an APK with command-line like options

2009-08-10 Thread Doug
, is there *any* way that the web server could be sent some 'device specific identifier' by the browser that would also be available to my APK? (In this way the web server would be able to match up the original install request and the first run of the app after install). Thanks Doug --~--~

[android-developers] Re: Default number of Views constructed for a BaseAdapter?

2009-06-27 Thread Doug
Have you tried *not* caching the component views in your ViewHolder object - instead looking them up whenever you get a redraw request? You may find that the list is re-using objects, and your image issue is simply an artifact of that. Doug On Jun 26, 10:56 pm, Peter wrote: > > There&#

[android-developers] Re: Catching ActivityNotFoundException

2009-06-26 Thread Doug
ting (literally 1 in 1000 people). Thanks again. Doug On Jun 26, 7:08 pm, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > I am not aware of any such problems -- the system clearly uses > startActivity() a -lot- for all of its normal UI, and I have never seen > spurious security exceptions. > > If you

[android-developers] Re: Intent.ACTION_SEND and Email

2009-06-26 Thread Doug
apps installed on the phone (like the GMail client) will undoubtedly provide their own. And anything could happen in the next release :) Doug On Jun 26, 1:05 pm, Nmix wrote: > I am experimenting with sending email from within my app by launching > an email app with startActivity(Intent.ACTI

[android-developers] Re: Overlay ConcurrentModificationException

2009-06-26 Thread Doug
ernal processing. Rather than modify the object directly in the callback, try posting yourself a message (or a Runnable) that will be executed by the Main message handler. Doug On Jun 26, 3:19 pm, jgostylo wrote: > I am trying to integrate a third party location finding service into > my a

[android-developers] Re: Catching ActivityNotFoundException

2009-06-26 Thread Doug
20aa2e1203?hl=en# ). Perhaps you could answer this question - I am willing to step through the source, but once java goes "native" the debugger loses all control, and when the method returns the error has already occurred. Assuming I have all the source (I do) is is possible to debug past t

[android-developers] Re: Default number of Views constructed for a BaseAdapter?

2009-06-26 Thread Doug
would remain fairly static. This was causing all sorts of fun and games with the UI. Now that I follow "The Rules" and faithfully fill in whichever view I am handed in the onBindView() (rather than try to second guess the platform) everything is sweet. Doug On Jun 26, 3:48 pm, Peter wro

[android-developers] Re: Problem with setExtra

2009-06-26 Thread Doug
shows the exception - regardless of whether your app crashes or not. -- be nice to see that too! Doug On Jun 23, 5:23 am, Peli wrote: > Did you make sure the first argument of putExtra(..), that is your > variable intStringName, is not null? > > Peliwww.openintents.org > > On Jun

[android-developers] Re: onRecieve starting activity problem

2009-06-26 Thread Doug
nch flag is not required") Doug On Jun 22, 9:37 pm, ani wrote: > Guys, > > I would like to know the reason behind this behaviour.I have a > broadcast reciever and in onrecieve i am trying to start an > activity,however if i am not giving the flags it is giving an > exception

[android-developers] Re: Catching ActivityNotFoundException

2009-06-26 Thread Doug
So, what should we do when the activity actually *does* exist, but for reasons of its own Android decides to throw this exception anyway? Ref: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/c1b669c2047a8188# On Jun 23, 12:18 pm, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > If you know for

[android-developers] Re: Measurement of Time

2009-06-19 Thread Doug
A really easy way is to use System.currentTimeInMillis() - it returns the number of milliseconds since "the epoch" (1970) long start = System.currentTimeInMillis(); // Do some operation. // howLong has number of millis the operation took long howLong = System.currentTimeInMillis() - s

[android-developers] Activity not found... sometimes!

2009-06-19 Thread Doug
riginally, the Activity in question was being launched by an Intent that used an intentfilter in the manifest. After reading a comment by Diane H I changed it to launch using the class instead (still waiting on results of that) Anyone have any ideas? Doug --~--~-~--~~---

[android-developers] App Icon and Name not being shown by Installer

2009-06-19 Thread Doug
om.mememe.android.youyouyou" (too long for screen), with the default 'screen-with-a-cog-in-front-of-it' icon. On an upgrade, the installer shows the app name as whatever is in "@string/app_name", with the icon present in "@drawable/icon" Anyone with any i

[android-developers] Re: bluetooth api

2009-06-18 Thread Doug
A2DP stands for Advanced Audio Distribution Profile and is used for streaming music from an audio source such as a Bluetooth enabled MP3 player to an audio sink such as a Bluetooth headset. A2DP is output only, and so would not be useful for an input device. AVRCP is Audio Video Remote Control

[android-developers] Re: Two page form question - saving data from first page

2009-06-16 Thread Doug
the intent to display p2, and add the values you want to pass as intent extras. Page 2 can then pull the values out of the intent at its leisure. Doug On Jun 15, 7:48 am, doubleminus wrote: > Ah. So I'll likely be using a listener of some sort or a app > Preference object - and not wr

[android-developers] Re: About EditText's default text

2009-06-14 Thread Doug
Check out the 'hint' property of the edittext view. It allows you yo specify the text that will appear when the control is empty, Sorry, I don't know about the Spinner side of things... Doug On Jun 14, 12:56 am, stonestrange wrote: > Hi,guys. > > I want set the defa

[android-developers] Re: Missing application icon in All Application drawer

2009-06-14 Thread Doug
Just ignore me... I read the original question yet again and agree with Mark... although my note about icons not showing up is still valid On Jun 14, 10:44 am, Doug wrote: > I think Lucius may be referring to something I have seen since 1.5 > came out.  Namely that the 'all appliica

[android-developers] Re: Missing application icon in All Application drawer

2009-06-14 Thread Doug
. When installed it will appear automatically on the normal app tab down the bottom of your screen. Doug On Jun 13, 2:23 pm, Mark Murphy wrote: > Lucius Fox wrote: > > Can someone please help me understanding why in my emulator, i can > > * in my settings-> manage application, see a

[android-developers] Re: incomingNumber -> contact name - What is the right way?

2009-06-13 Thread Doug
Reported as bug #2983 http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2983 On Jun 13, 1:34 pm, Doug wrote: > Wow! Turns out the query code in ContactsProvider does pretty much > what I thought... it uses the Sqlite 'glob' operator, which is like > 'like' (but u

[android-developers] Re: incomingNumber -> contact name - What is the right way?

2009-06-13 Thread Doug
seem to set the key when a record is created, but never seem to bother updating it. Should be easy enough to verify - create a contact with phone number "X", then edit the phone number to be "Y" - call the number (or have them call you) and see if the contact info appear

[android-developers] Re: incomingNumber -> contact name - What is the right way?

2009-06-13 Thread Doug
I did some experimentation yesterday on just this topic. For a start, it was easy enough to just throw a non-specific query at the People provider and get back the values for the columns I was interested in. I don't know why, but I found that the "NUMBER_KEY" column has the original phone number,

[android-developers] Re: How to tell when application exits?

2009-06-12 Thread Doug
Could I suggest an update to documentation then? Do you guys need a bug report to be lodged to do this kind of thing? Does this also apply to services? The documentation there also states that the service will be sent a 'courtesy' stop notification... I think things could go quite badly if the co

[android-developers] Re: How to tell when application exits?

2009-06-12 Thread Doug
be killed, and the only thing guaranteed to be called in > your activities is onPause, and possible onSaveInstanceStatie() > > On Jun 11, 12:43 pm, Doug wrote: > > > Max, > > > Take a look at the application object that your app can optionally > > have.  It is creaated (a

[android-developers] Re: How to tell when application exits?

2009-06-11 Thread Doug
coming and going). Hope this proves useful. Doug On Jun 9, 10:58 am, "Mark Murphy" wrote: > > Yes, but when the app closes I want to close the connections (which > > requires sending data - not just releasing the objects) regardless of > > what's holding them.  

[android-developers] Error during OS 1.5 manual update on ADP1

2009-06-04 Thread Doug H.
located the update package alright, but somehow doesn't like it. Suggestions? I'd be most appreciative of any insight that could be offered. Thanks, Doug --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[android-developers] Problem installing Cupcake OS update on ADP1

2009-06-04 Thread Doug H.
I am encountering a strange error when attempting to install the Cupcake (1.5) OS update on my Dev Phone 1, and I've seen no solution to it anywhere. Hopefully this group's assembled experts can help. Here's what I have done. First I download the OS update image here: https://android.clients.

[android-developers] Re: Find whether any audio is currently playing

2009-05-25 Thread Doug
he player object, maybe even wrapping it up as a Singleton to prevent accidental multiple use. At that point you can just call methods on the player (like 'isPlaying ()') without having to worry about where it is. Just a thought... Doug On May 22, 9:57 pm, iDeveloper wrote: > Th

[android-developers] Using a PC to Control Android

2009-03-06 Thread Doug
Hi, Is there a way to control the Android HTC from a PC? I basically want to use my PC screen/keyboard to see/type into my T- mobile g1 phone. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers

[android-developers] Re: Android Dev Phone 1™

2008-12-13 Thread Doug Sims
I ordered mine on December 10 with regular ground shipping to Memphis. My credit card was charged on Dec 11 (by "Gotta Go Blue.") I've called the Brightstarcorp number repeatedly since then and finally got through today. I spoke with Dana who was, as someone else in this thread mentioned, absolu

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