[android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Google should build it's own IDE and just model it after Visual Studio. On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:47:11 AM UTC-4, Jason wrote: > > OK.. I've just about had enough of eclipse. I have been using it for 10+ > years (ever since it was WSAD :/) and have put up with it's slowness, > buggyness, upg

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 09:54:26PM -0700, Jason Polites wrote: > So, the NDK stuff is pretty simply if your project is created in an "NDK > Friendly" way. That is, you have a folder called "jni" and in that folder > you have an Android.mk and an Application.mk file. Yeah, it's definitely configur

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

So, the NDK stuff is pretty simply if your project is created in an "NDK Friendly" way. That is, you have a folder called "jni" and in that folder you have an Android.mk and an Application.mk file. Basically the process documented here ( http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html#GetSt

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 02:32:57PM -0700, bob wrote: > > > I tried intelliJ on Mac yesterday, and it *was* a hassle telling it where > the JDK and Android SDK were. > > I'm not even sure how I got past that part. A lot of fiddling and googling > were involved. I just downloaded it and got s

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Hallo Jarson: On Sunday, March 17, 2013 9:12:18 AM UTC+1, Jason wrote: > > 1. Screen area. The "perspectives" concept in eclipse wins hands down > over the somewhat cramped "panel" approach of Intellij and although eclipse > too has similar panels you can arrange them in whichever way you like

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Actually what I really want is code complete (and all the bells and whistles that go along with a proper editor). Syntax highlighting actually works without any plugins but if you want any sort of code complete (et. al.) then it's going to require some sort of C++ interpreter. Running the NDK bui

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Hi, On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:59:42 PM UTC+1, Jason wrote: > > I initially tried to get the C++ > pluginto work for my NDK > related stuff but just couldn't get the paths setup > correctly (I assume) because none of my includes were resolving

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Hi, On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:42:38 AM UTC+1, Lew wrote: > > It puts it in perspective, that is, it illustrates the value of arguing > over the best editor as folks have been doing here. > > One more reason to use Maven — every team member can use the Editor/IDE he/she likes best. Martin

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

So I've been working in Intellij all day today, although most of the time was spent in the setup/config process. I initially tried to get the C++ plugin to work for my NDK related stuff but just couldn't get the paths setup correctly (I assume) becaus

[android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

I tried intelliJ on Mac yesterday, and it *was* a hassle telling it where the JDK and Android SDK were. I'm not even sure how I got past that part. A lot of fiddling and googling were involved. Anyhow, it is working now, and the fonts are pretty nice on Mac. I'd say I prefer them over Ecl

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Jason wrote: > Sure, but the intention of the thread was to inform as to whether intellij > is a realistic option for Android development. People are relaying their > personal experience with each, which is all valid, relevant information for > those interested in the answer, which I am since

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:04:53AM -0700, Ian Ni-Lewis wrote: > I don't care to argue about the superiority or inferiority of each product; Just FWIW, I, no doubt like most here, still remember what comp.editors used to be like in the weekly editor wars, some of which were still going while the ne

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Sure, but the intention of the thread was to inform as to whether intellij is a realistic option for Android development. People are relaying their personal experience with each, which is all valid, relevant information for those interested in the answer, which I am since I posted the original que

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Jason wrote: > Not sure how that helps the discussion, but thanks. > > It puts it in perspective, that is, it illustrates the value of arguing over the best editor as folks have been doing here. Does that make it clearer? > > Lew wrote: > >> Jason wrote: >> >>> My issue has never been with t

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Not sure how that helps the discussion, but thanks. On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Lew wrote: > Jason wrote: > >> My issue has never been with the features of eclipse [sic] .. [sic] >> they're awesome. My issue is that they just don't work. Running CDT along >> side [sic] regular Java along

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Jason wrote: > My issue has never been with the features of eclipse [sic] .. [sic] > they're awesome. My issue is that they just don't work. Running CDT along > side [sic] regular Java along side Android ADT is just broken. I am > constantly getting combinations of: >

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

My issue has never been with the features of eclipse.. they're awesome. My issue is that they just don't work. Running CDT along side regular Java along side Android ADT is just broken. I am constantly getting combinations of: "weird behavior" (dialogs not containing default values, false-posit

[android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

W dniu wtorek, 12 marca 2013 18:13:16 UTC+1 użytkownik Jason napisał: > Bashing eclipse is popular because eclipse is a horrible experience, from > start to end. Exaggerating a bit, don't you think? Sure 4.2 isn't such a great release (new UI framework is still buggy, but SR2 helped a lot - a

[android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:59:55 PM UTC+4, Martin Krischik wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 12. März 2013 17:51:41 UTC+1 schrieb b0b: >> >> Each time someone bashes Eclipse, it is generally followed by stating how >> awesome Intellij is. >> > > Have you ever considered that this is so because is truly

[android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Am Dienstag, 12. März 2013 17:51:41 UTC+1 schrieb b0b: > > Each time someone bashes Eclipse, it is generally followed by stating how > awesome Intellij is. > Have you ever considered that this is so because is truly Intellij IDEA is awesome. Consider this: Almost every Java programmer has used

[android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Am Dienstag, 12. März 2013 06:47:11 UTC+1 schrieb Jason: > > So.. is intellij for Android development a realistic option? *Yes!* Absolutely. We at NOSER Bern use nothing else for Android Development. Note that we also Maven and in theory every developer is free to chose the IDE. But in praxis

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

I don't care to argue about the superiority or inferiority of each product; I'll just say that after trying Xcode, Eclipse, and IntelliJ (and after having used Visual Studio since version 2.0), IntelliJ was the one product that made intuitive sense to me. I assume that this is because its paradigm

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

IntelliJ certainly has its own issues :) On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Larry Meadors wrote: > Oh my gosh, did I just walk into the 21st century version of "vi vs emacs". > > Bottom line: They all suck, just in different ways. > > For the love of all that is good and right in the universe, do

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

That's basically the point, but at the same time, a discussion as to which workflows go well with which environments may be constructive for some users. I think it's best to take everyone's opinion with a grain of salt... Eclipse will suck to some people, other things will suck to other people. (

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Oh my gosh, did I just walk into the 21st century version of "vi vs emacs". Bottom line: They all suck, just in different ways. For the love of all that is good and right in the universe, don't try to tell me IDEA has no "hair pulling, vein popping, cat kicking failures", because I have used it f

Re: [android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

I don't think that's been my experience: I've never intended to "bash" Eclipse on the sole basis that I've not taken time to give it some overall evaluation. For me, Eclipse eats tons of ram, the plugins I use usually break it (though this is really a problem with those plugins, it's definitely no

[android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Bashing eclipse is popular because eclipse is a horrible experience, from start to end. As I said in my original post I've been using eclipse for as long as there has been an eclipse and many many of the concepts in how data is presented in eclipse make a LOT of sense. The problem is that it's

[android-developers] Re: Eclipse or Intellij.. what's the verdict?

Eclipse for life here. I use it for Android, regular Java, C/C++, GWT development. Having it all in the same IDE is nice. Bashing Eclipse is popular. Each time someone bashes Eclipse, it is generally followed by stating how awesome Intellij is. This pattern is 100% predictable, especially on