That was directed at DanH
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Wrong, I really love doing it, otherwise I wouldn't have stayed with it for
so long. I just wanted to add a point that if you're considering making a
living of this, it's not all enlightening moments and cutting edge
development: there are going to be dull moments. If you don't enjoy it
enough to d
So, you don't particularly like coding, but hope to sell apps on the
market to supplement your income.
Your background doesn't seem to include any OO langauges (including
Java), there will be a fair learning curve.
Can't see how this is going to work if you don't like coding, and
don't have an id
Thanks for the feedback
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Thanks this feedback was very helpful in adding focus to my path
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Your bitterness shines through your posts.
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On May 15, 2:17 pm, DanH wrote:
> (The #1 requirement for programming is a love of it that surpasses
> your love for money and often your love of food and sleep.)
I read two books that influenced my life's philosophy greatly about 30
years ago. The titles were "Guerilla Tactics in the Job Marke
On May 15, 10:15 pm, DanH wrote:
> About once a day I see something along the lines of the following. (I
> wasn't able to find an example in the Android forum, even though I
> know I saw one yesterday
I seem to recall posting something to that effect a few days ago.
Thing is, it was true. I rea
About once a day I see something along the lines of the following. (I
wasn't able to find an example in the Android forum, even though I
know I saw one yesterday or this morning [where the guy had the
audacity to ask for finished code], so this is from a Qt forum.):
Hello Guys...
I want to learn
On May 15, 2:17 pm, DanH wrote:
> If you look around, about half those posting here (and on other forums
> for other platforms) are kids who have essentially no programmer
> training but have managed to modify a few example projects to do
> interesting (to them) things and hence consider themsel
It's one thing to be a kid at 15, playing around with programming.
It's entirely another to be a college student (or dropout) at 22 who
believes that he's going to "strike it rich" with apps. Programming
is HARD WORK, and you don't learn how to do it well without
considerable effort (and practice)
I'm sorry to tell you that Android development is not a "career
path". Android, as you know it, probably won't exist in 10 years, and
likely will be headed downhill in 5. And even if it does survive it
will be a "dead end job".
If you want a job in software development (and not in management or
Yah... maybe true... i don't know... but you and i both were those kids at
one point.
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Android development is relatively easy to get into. (For example, I never
went to college and work as an Android dev.)
Here in the US though, you have to be good at it or else your job will be
sent to India.
But on the other hand, apps are not as demanding as say making scalable
backend software.
I'm undergrad computer science student and would love to make software
development for android in particular a career path any tips or intern work
u can point me in the direction of?
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The better programmers have an engineering background, IMO (or at
least an "engineering way of thinking").
On May 15, 2:43 pm, Harri Smått wrote:
> On May 15, 2011, at 10:17 PM, DanH wrote:
>
> > If you look around, about half those posting here (and on other forums
> > for other platforms) are k
On May 15, 2011, at 10:17 PM, DanH wrote:
> If you look around, about half those posting here (and on other forums
> for other platforms) are kids who have essentially no programmer
> training but have managed to modify a few example projects to do
> interesting (to them) things and hence consider
If you look around, about half those posting here (and on other forums
for other platforms) are kids who have essentially no programmer
training but have managed to modify a few example projects to do
interesting (to them) things and hence consider themselves to be
programmers. They all believe th
Actually, I do find that Android is harder to get the hang of than
either iPhone or Qt for Nokia, but it's because the Android
environment is so obscure and irregular. Switching from Objective C
to Qt/C++ to Java is no problem for anyone with reasonable programming
skills -- you could fairly easil
For several years our JVM (IBM Series i) held the worldwide
performance record.
On May 15, 8:04 am, Kostya Vasilyev wrote:
> 15.05.2011 16:12, DanH пишет:
>
> > I started with Java 1.0.x -- writing a virtual machine for it.
>
> I did start with Java 1.0 as well, integrating it as a scripting
> la
Hi,
I was interested in working with Android.
I had experience as linux embedded developer.
I spoke with a firm (for which I already did some works) interested into
moving to android embedded market.
I offered to start working on Android embedded!
My reference was not Android experience (I had n
On May 15, 2011, at 3:09 PM, DanH wrote:
> A skilled programmer with no Android experience will take about 2 weeks to
> begin
> earning his keep, and a month or two to become comfortable with the
> technology.
Here I tend to have slightly different opinion. While I agree mostly, I've seen
follo
15.05.2011 16:12, DanH пишет:
I started with Java 1.0.x -- writing a virtual machine for it.
I did start with Java 1.0 as well, integrating it as a scripting
language into a game engine. It almost worked before the startup ran out
of money :)
On May 13, 11:25 pm, Brill Pappin wrote:
> h
One hint. Look around locally for a business that could use some sort
of business-specific app. Eg, an inventory tool of some sort -- like
one that will help a warehouseman find a specific item int the
warehouse. Negotiate whatever deal you can to do an app for them (eg,
first two installs free,
I started with Java 1.0.x -- writing a virtual machine for it.
On May 13, 11:25 pm, Brill Pappin wrote:
> haha, particularly since 25 years ago, hardly anyone knew java (if it was
> even released).
> I have something between 15 or 16 years of experience with java now now
> (exact numbers are fuzz
A smart hiring manager knows that programming skill is far more
important than being "up" on a specific technology. A skilled
programmer with no Android experience will take about 2 weeks to begin
earning his keep, and a month or two to become comfortable with the
technology. A wet-behind-the-ear
I got laid off with 35 years of programming experience, got hired at
1/4 the salary by a small phone app outfit, and drew the short straw
to do some Android work.
On May 13, 5:24 am, "Knutsford Software" wrote:
> How did people on this list get from learning about Android to getting paid
> work
On May 13, 1:24 pm, "Knutsford Software" wrote:
> How did people on this list get from learning about Android to getting paid
> work developing apps. In other words how did you get past the no experience
> no work stage?
Well, as for me, I joined this list just minutes ago. Installed
Android SD
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