[android-developers] Re: Need help - hidden GPS monitoring app

2012-07-02 Thread Mihai Popescu
Hello, everybody! And I wish you a pleasant week ;) I guess I'll have to talk to the customer, and rediscuss his requirements and the budget for this. Guess my initial concerns about this were right: Custom OS is the answer :) Thank you very much for all you replies, and I hope I can count on

Re: [android-developers] Re: Need help - hidden GPS monitoring app

2012-07-02 Thread Kristopher Micinski
Good luck. I might note that this list is not for Android source development and modifications, and you will likely be redirected to the Android source lists (source.android.com). You can find lists there, (android-platform, android-porting, etc...) which might help you out more than this one,

[android-developers] Re: Need help - hidden GPS monitoring app

2012-06-29 Thread Terry
I don't think it can be done! Terry kl. 12:03:08 UTC+2 onsdag 27. juni 2012 skrev Mihai Popescu følgende: Hello, I am rather new to Android, and I need some information and opinions. I intend to develop an application which would run on some Android phone, seeminglessly in the

[android-developers] Re: Need help - hidden GPS monitoring app

2012-06-29 Thread Mihai Popescu
Hi, Your answer does not sattisfy me :) Perhaps I din't provide enough information. 1. I can program, I can learn, but I first need to know if what I want is possible 2. I am a toal Android n00b, so I need number 1 answered first 3. the application is intended to be used for employee tracking

Re: [android-developers] Re: Need help - hidden GPS monitoring app

2012-06-29 Thread Kristopher Micinski
You can't hide it from the application manager. What you are describing sounds like a spy app, which Android works to make impossible to write. In fact all of the things you describe modify the behavior of the system in some nontrivial way, you cannot cause your app to take hold of the user's

[android-developers] Re: Need help - hidden GPS monitoring app

2012-06-29 Thread Streets Of Boston
Unless you bake your own proprietary ROM/image for these phone, it is not possible. You can't run a service in the background without the being unable to find out. It is always discoverable and it can be terminated. Second of all, you'd need a device with a hell of a battery. The constant

Re: [android-developers] Re: Need help - hidden GPS monitoring app

2012-06-29 Thread Daniel Drozdzewski
Mihai, It is possible to achieve what you need to a degree. What I mean is: if I knew that the phone I am carrying is a snooping device, I would switch the thing off. No app will be able to connect to the mothership when the whole platform is down. Completely agree with Kristopher: what you are

Re: [android-developers] Re: Need help - hidden GPS monitoring app

2012-06-29 Thread Kristopher Micinski
Not to mention that you should probably investigate the legal implications of tracking all of your employees 24/7 ... kris On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Streets Of Boston flyingdutc...@gmail.com wrote: Unless you bake your own proprietary ROM/image for these phone, it is not possible.

Re: [android-developers] Re: Need help - hidden GPS monitoring app

2012-06-29 Thread Kristopher Micinski
seriously, that sounds like a slashdot headline: Company X found to have installed tracking software on 3300 salesperson's phones. kris On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention that you should probably investigate the legal implications

[android-developers] Re: Need help - hidden GPS monitoring app

2012-06-29 Thread Mihai Popescu
First of all: Google's idea about design seems to evade me :) I didn't see most of your replies. 1. Legal issues The software (application, service or custom OS) will be used on employee handsets. I assume our customer can get them to sign some papers for this, it is not really my problem :)

Re: [android-developers] Re: Need help - hidden GPS monitoring app

2012-06-29 Thread Mark Murphy
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Mihai Popescu mihai.m.pope...@gmail.com wrote: Android is based on Linux, so doesn't it have some low-level user management? You know, somewhat like a regular Linux distribution. Yes, which you mostly deal with in custom firmware. I am thinking maybe my

[android-developers] Re: Need help - hidden GPS monitoring app

2012-06-29 Thread Nobu Games
You got your answers by programmers who are familiar with the Android SDK and platform. What you are requesting is not possible without firmware modifications (which is out of the scope of this group). And I agree with Daniel's remarks. The idea itself is a bit flawed. What happens if there is

[android-developers] Re: Need help - hidden GPS monitoring app

2012-06-29 Thread Chris Stratton
On Jun 29, 12:08 pm, Mihai Popescu mihai.m.pope...@gmail.com wrote: The client is not a seller, it is a large company and its activity involves mostly transporting goods throughout the country. The purpose of the software is to monitor truck driver location, thus enforcing some policies to

Re: [android-developers] Re: Need help - hidden GPS monitoring app

2012-06-29 Thread Kristopher Micinski
The employees agree to keep the phone and GPS feature turned on as long as possible Not to mention ensuring they don't install a fake GPS app... kris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to