On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 11:38:52PM +0100, Sander Steffann wrote:
But the RIPE NCC isn't an official party in that contract. The
contract is between end user and LIR.
Well... Considering that such a contract must be submitted to,
and approved by, the RIPE NCC (or it will not result in the
As sascha says and for once I agree with him, It can be argued that the LIR is
a mere intermediary in this transaction, and executing contracts with the end
user while standing in for ripe ncc.
Like, say, a VW car dealer - who sells you a Passat TDI diesel car and their
name is on all the
Hi Gert
On 06/11/2015 10:00, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 06:01:53AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
+1 here - though for step 3 it might be an idea to check just how many such
objects are there and with what frequency they pop up.
Some of these funny announcements
On 06/11/2015 05:09, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
In message <20151106003148.gx47...@cilantro.c4inet.net>,
"Sascha Luck [ml]" wrote:
On Thu, Nov 05, 2015 at 03:48:43PM -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
Laugh now... while you can.
Threats again, is it? I call on the chairs
Richard,
Thanks for all of this. I had read the beginning of your earlier posts,
but then got very distracted and was only reminded about them recently.
I have asked Registration Services in the NCC to look at this and
hopefully some light may be able to be shed or progress made. We shall
Denis,
On 05/11/2015 19:40, ripede...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
HI all
I am going to have one last go at solving this problem. I challenge
anyone/everyone to tell me why this is such a stupid idea, technically
impossible to do, won't solve any of the issues partially or fully. Then
I can shut up about
Hi,
On Thu, Nov 05, 2015 at 03:58:26PM -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
[..]
> >This really does matter. Even with a valid RIPE ASN they cannot 'steal'
> >RIPE address space.
>
> Really???
>
> If so, that's great news!
>
> Did everyone finally agree to use only fully authenticated route
>
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 06:01:53AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> +1 here - though for step 3 it might be an idea to check just how many such
> objects are there and with what frequency they pop up.
>
> Some of these funny announcements can be short lived indeed - only lasting a
>
>From a systems perspective the discussion below is exactly
backwards.
A millions-user system dependent for correct operation (e.g. one not
promoting abuse [the subject of this list]) must be [re]designed to
place the onus on the user not the registrar. Rule: if your data are
not correct, you
On 06/11/2015 15:22, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:
On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 10:01:33AM -0500, Jeffrey Race wrote:
The matter of the "defining discussion goal" will have to be
taken up in order to make progress on this list's putative
purpose of "anti-abuse."
Had you read the charter of this WG,
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 15:22:30 +, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:
>>though this makes inevitable the criminal nature of the
>>mechanism they are charged with managing.
>
>The internet resource management mechanism as managed by RIRs and
>LIRS is "of a criminal nature", do I understand you correctly?
On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 11:57:18AM -0500, Jeffrey Race wrote:
The internet resource management mechanism as managed by RIRs and
LIRS is "of a criminal nature", do I understand you correctly?
The mechanism is the internet
Uhuh. I guess it's just as well that barely any operators seem to read
On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 07:23:39PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian
wrote:
That is what floating this in the db wg will establish - whether
it is actually a member revolt or one individual???s opinion
Consensus is a wonderful thing when it is achieved
You're touching on a very sore point for me.
Paul,
On 06/11/2015 12:11, Paul Skram wrote:
*I don't have time to read your endless bickering and insults.*
*You people need to learn how to effectively communicate.
If you wish to unsubscribe you can do so via:
https://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg
Brian
I don't have time to read your endless bickering and insults.
You people need to learn how to effectively communicate.
You have misunderstood the English words.
I said that the mechanism by which the
internet operates was slackly designed and
is slackly operated so has become a cesspool of
criminality.
Jeffrey Race
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 17:14:22 +, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:
>On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at
Denis,
On 06/11/2015 11:01, denis wrote:
Hi Brian
On 06/11/2015 11:29, Brian Nisbet wrote:
Denis,
On 05/11/2015 19:40, ripede...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
HI all
I am going to have one last go at solving this problem. I challenge
anyone/everyone to tell me why this is such a stupid idea,
In message <563c8773.7000...@yahoo.co.uk>,
denis wrote:
>> It may seem like I am quibbling over a minor semantic point here, and
>> perhaps I am, but I think that it is somewhat inaccurate to say that
>> there's no relationship at all between RIPE / RIPE NCC and the
In message <563c953c.6050...@yahoo.co.uk>,
denis wrote:
>I don't claim this will solve all the problems of the universe, but it
>does satisfy an immediate goal to have all ROUTE objects in the RIPE
>Database created with the knowledge and approval of the related
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