Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Legality of proposal (apologies)

2019-05-17 Thread Taras Heichenko
> On May 17, 2019, at 12:40, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Hi all, > > As I read the proposal cutting off bogus LIRs seems to be the goal rather > than cutting off a legitimate but careless player. There seem to be quite a > few such given the coming wg meeting has a preso on just this to

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Legality of proposal (apologies)

2019-05-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 3:08 PM To: Nick Hilliard Cc: Shane Kerr; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Legality of proposal (apologies) On Fri, 17 May 2019, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Shane Kerr wrote on 17/05/2019 08:45: >> All I can sa

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Legality of proposal (apologies)

2019-05-17 Thread Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg
On Fri, 17 May 2019, Nick Hilliard wrote: Shane Kerr wrote on 17/05/2019 08:45: All I can say is that the law is stupid then, and it SHOULD allow the proposed policy. ? fundamentally, it shouldn't. Proportionality is a cornerstone of most legal systems - if you don't have proportionality,

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Legality of proposal (apologies)

2019-05-17 Thread Nick Hilliard
Shane Kerr wrote on 17/05/2019 08:45: All I can say is that the law is stupid then, and it SHOULD allow the proposed policy. 😉 fundamentally, it shouldn't. Proportionality is a cornerstone of most legal systems - if you don't have proportionality, you end up with tyranny. The idea of threat

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Legality of proposal (apologies)

2019-05-17 Thread Shane Kerr
Alex, On 17/05/2019 09.15, Shane Kerr wrote: I don't think we need to be amateur lawyers for this or any other proposal. I have been informed that you are an actual lawyer and not an amateur one. Color me embarrassed! My sincere apologies. All I can say is that the law is stupid then, and