Hi Ronald,
> Given what you've just said, I don't think that it would be accurate
> to say that I am an uneuqivocal supporter of the present -process-
> for adopting RIPE policy proposals. In fact, quite the contrary.
> My hope would be that if working group `X' endorses some policy which
>
In message
,
Brian Nisbet wrote:
>... but there is no step where the General Meeting is asked to
>vote on a policy, it's all done by consensus in the Working Groups.
Well, I honestly didn't know that, and frankly it comes as a bit of
a shock to me.
Given what you've just said, I don't think
Ronald,
> -Original Message-
> From: anti-abuse-wg On Behalf Of
> Ronald F. Guilmette
> Sent: Friday 5 April 2019 20:57
> To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] On +1s and Policy Awareness AND Astro...
> something...
>
>
> >The debate as to what function the NCC should
Newcomers are welcome. It's that simple. If newcomers do not feel welcome then
it is up to the Co-Chairs and all members of the WG to improve that.
I know that saying something doesn't automatically make it so, and I know how
intimidating some mail threads can be, but remember to make everyone
In message <20190405125144.ga99...@cilantro.c4inet.net>,
"Sascha Luck [ml]" wrote:
>I *do* agree that the NCC should not get involved in routing or
>content matters. I dispute the statement that *everyone* agrees
>with that.
I do not agree with that.
With respect to "content", yes, that is
In message <20190405121330.gy99...@cilantro.c4inet.net>,
Sascha Luck [ml]" wrote:
>1) I'm not convinced "we all agree" on that. At least where
>content is concerned, that discussion has already been had, in
>this very place. With much similar arguments. While it ultimately
>led to nothing, i
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 01:33:52PM +, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> Using mutt and elm and conventions on what you call TOFU sort of faded into
> the past with mutt and tin but anyway once I get in front of a laptop with a
> reasonable mail client I will certainly follow that
Using mutt and elm and conventions on what you call TOFU sort of faded into the
past with mutt and tin but anyway once I get in front of a laptop with a
reasonable mail client I will certainly follow that charmingly old fashioned
style. I do have mutt available for use.
Yes. We won't get
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 06:07:48PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> Right. You don't agree with it. So "we all" don't agree with it. Excellent
> reasoning there.
If a single person disagrees, the claim "all agree" is obviously false.
Very basic math.
And please follow accepted
On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 06:07:48PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Right. You don't agree with it. So "we all" don't agree with it. Excellent
reasoning there.
I *do* agree that the NCC should not get involved in routing or
content matters. I dispute the statement that *everyone* agrees
Right. You don't agree with it. So "we all" don't agree with it. Excellent
reasoning there.
On 05/04/19, 5:44 PM, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Sascha Luck [ml]"
wrote:
On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 06:41:52PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>RIPE can't tell anyone either what to announce
On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 06:41:52PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
RIPE can't tell anyone either what to announce (over BGP) much less what
the individual IP addresses that people do announce are used for, which
could include, and which often *does* include, the distribution of malware
and
Comments inline
=Marco
> On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 04:52:32PM +0100, CSIRT.UMINHO Marco Teixeira wrote:
>>While I speak for myself, I might incur the risk of representing a lot of the
>>so-called "Astroturfers?!". While some accuse (please don't take it
>>personally,
>>it's just clarification)
Hi, Sascha, All,
Seriously? Newcomers welcomed?
It's just a matter of going back and re-read parts of the thread and some
sub-threads...
Regards,
Carlos
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:
On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 04:52:32PM +0100, CSIRT.UMINHO Marco Teixeira wrote:
While I
In message <20190404223345.gx99...@cilantro.c4inet.net>,
"Sascha Luck [ml]" wrote:
>1) The RIPE NCC is not the provider of "AUP" for the entire
>Internet or even the Internet of the Service Region. I understand
>that some would *like* it to be, but that is not what the members
>are paying it
Please. You keep trying to speak for the entire community and/or the ncc while
all the time it is about your personal preference.
—srs
From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Sascha Luck
[ml]
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 4:03 AM
To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net
Subject:
On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 04:52:32PM +0100, CSIRT.UMINHO Marco Teixeira wrote:
While I speak for myself, I might incur the risk of representing a lot of the so-called
"Astroturfers?!". While some accuse (please don't take it personally, it's just
clarification) the newcomers of being voiceless,
+1.
I'm also one of the first "+1" and Yesterday when all this discussion
started I wanted to write the email that Marco did but unfortunately no
time was left for me to do it. :| So I just want to give me support to
what Marco said and off course to 2019-03.
Also I would to remind all the
(Please mind, this is my personal opinion. The signature was left for consensus
evaluation and background context)
Dear RIPE associates, and other longtime participants in this mailing list,
While I speak for myself, I might incur the risk of representing a lot of the
so-called
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