Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-05 Thread Francis Tyers
El dv 05 de 07 de 2013 a les 11:19 +0200, en/na Kevin Brubeck Unhammer va escriure: > Tino Didriksen > writes: > > > On 04-07-2013 11:41, Dávid Nemeskey wrote: > > > > The words set and list are used interchangeably in CG. This is in > > contrast to how these term are used in CS, and part

Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-05 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Tino Didriksen writes: > On 04-07-2013 11:41, Dávid Nemeskey wrote: > > The words set and list are used interchangeably in CG. This is in > contrast to how these term are used in CS, and partly to the > commonsensical meanings of the words as well. The current planning > process m

Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-04 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Thursday 04 July 2013 Tino Didriksen said > As for the round-trip concern, this is all fully round-trippable. That > XML only has means little, as it is quite easy to know whether it > would be representable as a LIST in CG. Ah, interesting - so LIST is a conditioned variant of SET? I

Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-04 Thread Tino Didriksen
On 04-07-2013 11:41, Dávid Nemeskey wrote: > The words /set/ and /list/ are used interchangeably in CG. This is in > contrast to how these term are used in CS, and partly to the > commonsensical meanings of the words as well. The current planning > process might be just the right time to fix this i

Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-04 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Thursday 04 July 2013 Dávid Nemeskey said > I have bset and mset right now instead of LIST and SET, so at this > point we are safe. So if you want to roundtrip, you'll need to keep them like that. But if you don't wan' no steenkin' roundtrip, you can conflate. :-) -- Pob hwyl / Best

Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-04 Thread Dávid Nemeskey
Kevin, I have bset and mset right now instead of LIST and SET, so at this point we are safe. David On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Kevin Donnelly wrote: > On Thursday 04 July 2013 Dávid Nemeskey said >> Well, I haven't added any new functionality yet, so I don't see why a >> conversion

Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-04 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Thursday 04 July 2013 Dávid Nemeskey said > Well, I haven't added any new functionality yet, so I don't see why a > conversion with xslt(?) or a SAX parser would be a problem. ??? Once you lose info by conflating LIST and SET, how are you going to get it back? Anyway - not my project,

Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-04 Thread Dávid Nemeskey
Fran: thanks for the translation. :) Well, I haven't added any new functionality yet, so I don't see why a conversion with xslt(?) or a SAX parser would be a problem. David On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Francis Tyers wrote: > I think he means converting to the new format and back again... > >

Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-04 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Thursday 04 July 2013 Francis Tyers said > I think he means converting to the new format and back again... Give that boy a cream bun. :-) -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly kevindonnelly.org.uk bangortalk.org.uk -

Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-04 Thread Francis Tyers
I think he means converting to the new format and back again... F. El dj 04 de 07 de 2013 a les 14:58 +0300, en/na Dávid Nemeskey va escriure: > Hi Kevin, > > what do you mean by round-tripping in this case? Using only one tag > instead of the two? If that, I am not sure; however, I presume the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-04 Thread Dávid Nemeskey
Hi Kevin, what do you mean by round-tripping in this case? Using only one tag instead of the two? If that, I am not sure; however, I presume the current compilers take advantage of the fact that there are two separate commands, so I believe it makes sense to retain that dichotomy. David On Thu,

Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-04 Thread Kevin Donnelly
Hi Dávid On Thursday 04 July 2013 Dávid Nemeskey said > That's why I use the > bset and mset tags in the xml, to get the word "list" out of the > equation. Fair enough - so presumably you don't intend to allow round-tripping? -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly kevindonnelly.org.u

Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-04 Thread Dávid Nemeskey
Kevin: as I understand, LIST creates set from tags, while SET lets you use the same set-defining mechanism that you can use in e.g. constraint conditions. So maybe the my wording was not right, but it still stands that when you refer to a set you "call" two names, depending on what command you use

Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-04 Thread Kevin Donnelly
Hi Dávid On Thursday 04 July 2013 Dávid Nemeskey said > I am Dávid Nemeskey and I'm participating in the CG -> FST GSoC > project. The task I am currently working on is a new, XML-based format > for CG. Hmm. > I have created a page in the Apertium wiki, where I've laid > out my ideas. An

Re: [Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-04 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Dávid Nemeskey writes: > Hi guys, > > I am Dávid Nemeskey and I'm participating in the CG -> FST GSoC > project. The task I am currently working on is a new, XML-based format > for CG. I have created a page in the Apertium wiki, where I've laid > out my ideas. Anyone interested in the new format,

[Apertium-stuff] CG XML format

2013-07-04 Thread Dávid Nemeskey
Hi guys, I am Dávid Nemeskey and I'm participating in the CG -> FST GSoC project. The task I am currently working on is a new, XML-based format for CG. I have created a page in the Apertium wiki, where I've laid out my ideas. Anyone interested in the new format, please check it out. I welcome comm