[apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread Hugh Thomas
Does anyone have any experience with the winter hardiness of M9-Nic29 rootstock? ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread Gary Snyder
Hugh: According to the Washington Tree Fruit Research Commission M9-Nic29 rootstock is under the category of (fair) for cold hardiness. Their rankings range Tolerant, Good and Fair. Gary Snyder C O Nursery *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread Vincent Philion
Are you really sure you want HoneyCrisp/B9 ? Sounds to me like a combination that will result in trees that won’t grow enough. Vincent Philion IRDA On 24oct., 2013, at 15:12, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.commailto:hughthoma...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Gary. If you have any Honeycrisp on

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread Hugh Thomas
Vincent, I planted a few hundred Honeycrisp on Bud 9 last spring and got an average of 46 of leader growth this season. Talking to a large grower in Yakima, Washington last year, he informed me that Bud 9 was his best producer of Honeycrisp, getting 60 + bins per acre. I'm fairly new at this,

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread dmnorton
Hugh, we have been growing Granny Smith, Zestar and Pristine here at Royal Oak Farm on M9 in far northern Illinois for about 4 years now and have had good results. We also have Honeycrisp on Bud9 planted at the same time and they are half the size of the M9. We have decided to not use Bud9

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread Vincent Philion
Hi! As a plant pathologist, I love B9 because it is tolerant to fireblight. We’ve grown nice and productive trees on B9. However, I agree with Mr. Norton = our experience with HoneyCrisp/B9 is not a good one. Vincent On 24oct., 2013, at 15:45,

[apple-crop] The Nova Scotia phytoplasma that never was...

2013-10-24 Thread Vincent Philion
Hello all, for the better part of 2013, the CFIA (Canadian agency) worried the whole industry by reporting a case of apple proliferation phytoplasma (APP) in Canada. We now learn that after intensive sampling, the whole thing was a dud. I’m personally relieved because APP is a serious issue,

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread Smith, Timothy J
R: winter hardiness of Nic29 /M9: The common problem in the inland Pacific Northwest isn't often from classic, low temperature winter damage. Our more common problems with the M9 clones comes from sudden cold snaps in the fall. The trunks of younger trees on M9 seem slower to develop

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread Vincent Philion
No doubt that B9 is extremely winter hardy. If you pamper those trees so they grow, it could be ok. Our Honeycrisp/B9 never filled their space (12’ x 4’) Others had good results with that combination = http://www.hrt.msu.edu/assets/PagePDFs/ronald-perry/Rootstocks-for-Honeycrisp2.pdf Vincent

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread Hugh Thomas
Tim, Any observations / knowledge / experience with Bud 9 during the cold snap of 2010? On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Smith, Timothy J smit...@wsu.edu wrote: R: winter hardiness of Nic29 /M9: ** ** The common problem in the inland Pacific Northwest isn’t often from classic, low

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread Smith, Timothy J
There were no complaints about Bud9 hardiness or trunk damage on trees with that rootstock. It has a reputation as being hardy, but we can't use it on old soils, because it is very susceptible to replant disease. It runts out and eventually dies.It does better on deep soil in new orchard

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread Gary Snyder
Hugh; We are completely sold out of Honeycrisp on Bud 9 for 2014. Very large waiting list also for this combination also. Some people like it and others do not. If you grow the tree first, then start to crop it you should have minimal problem. Some growers have a problem filling the space

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread Hugh Thomas
My first experiment with apple trees was the spring of 2012. I planted 500 trees, mostly on bud 9. I didn't do a soil test before planting as the USDA rates the soil here as being prime farm land with a Ph of 7. I planted and used a NPK slow release (Osmocote). The next year, before my next

Re: [apple-crop] The Nova Scotia phytoplasma that never was...

2013-10-24 Thread Kushad, Mosbah M
The alternative is what if APP was present and they did not implement the quarantine? Think of the Plum Pox virus.. Mosbah From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Vincent Philion Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:42 PM To:

Re: [apple-crop] The Nova Scotia phytoplasma that never was...

2013-10-24 Thread Vincent Philion
I agree. What I find questionable is that they presented the case as confirmed APP. I hope they learned from this episode that they should say something like orchards were put in quarantine because SUSPECTED of disease, and not claim a confirmed case before the work is done. Envoyé de mon

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread Jon Clements
Simple solution -- pre-order and plant them 2 ft. X 10 ft. Will make you, and the nursery, happy...:-) Jon On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Kushad, Mosbah M kus...@illinois.eduwrote: I have had little luck with Gala, Fuji, and Honeycrisp filling their spaces when grafted on Bud 9. Central

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread Hugh Thomas
I worked in Florida as a horticulturalist for ten years and in California for twenty. I found that even though parts of Florida and parts of California had the same climate zones, many things would not grow in both areas. For example, the plant, Croton, (Codiaeum variegatum) a common house plant