Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

On 22/06/06, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/22/06, Philip Dillon-Thiselton <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:> Well, no, it's not because we still have to be able to stop and restart ppp> interfaces properly.  Also it appears counter-intuitive to me that something> should need to be left blank in o

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

On 6/22/06, Philip Dillon-Thiselton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, no, it's not because we still have to be able to stop and restart ppp > interfaces properly. Also it appears counter-intuitive to me that something > should need to be left blank in order to allow something to work. I'm sure >

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

On 21/06/06, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/21/06, Philip Dillon-Thiselton <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:> OK, so that's sorted, what about checking what type of interface it is,> though?just modify the netcfg so that it wont run ifconfig, if IFOPTS is undefined.Currently it's: if IFOPTS=dhcpru

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

On 6/21/06, Philip Dillon-Thiselton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, so that's sorted, what about checking what type of interface it is, > though? just modify the netcfg so that it wont run ifconfig, if IFOPTS is undefined. Currently it's: if IFOPTS=dhcp run dhcp else run static config just ch

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

On 20/06/06, Thomas Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Philip Dillon-Thiselton schrieb:> I can see from looking at poff that the only good way of killing a> specific pppd is by pid.  I can only assume we want support for multiple> pppd so we need to append the pid "arch-daemon-style" to the end of

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

Philip Dillon-Thiselton schrieb: > I can see from looking at poff that the only good way of killing a > specific pppd is by pid. I can only assume we want support for multiple > pppd so we need to append the pid "arch-daemon-style" to the end of the > file in /var/state/ppp. The PID is available

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

On 20/06/06, Philip Dillon-Thiselton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In addition...I can see from looking at poff that the only good way of killing a specific pppd is by pid.  I can only assume we want support for multiple pppd so we need to append the pid "arch-daemon-style" to the end of the file in /

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

On 20/06/06, Philip Dillon-Thiselton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK - it's _way_ more complicated than that.  We don't want to run ifconfig on this interface at all do we, or we'll get errors coming out our ears.  So that means that we need to check that the device is not a ppp device before we do a

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

On 18/06/06, Thomas Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: James schrieb:> if [ "$PPP_PEER" ]; then>   /usr/sbin/pppd call $PPP_PEER> fi>> this assumes ppp forks itself, which is what the scripts lying around> seems to suggest. /usr/sbin/pppd call $PPP_PEER detachThis does not guarantee that the co

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

James schrieb: > if [ "$PPP_PEER" ]; then > /usr/sbin/pppd call $PPP_PEER > fi > > this assumes ppp forks itself, which is what the scripts lying around > seems to suggest. /usr/sbin/pppd call $PPP_PEER detach This does not guarantee that the connection is up before it returns, so you cou

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

On 6/18/06, Philip Dillon-Thiselton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17/06/06, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 6/17/06, Philip Dillon-Thiselton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, the wiki has information on how to set ppp up - surely reading that > > is a start ;) Obviously you can'

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

On 17/06/06, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/17/06, Philip Dillon-Thiselton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>  Well, the wiki has information on how to set ppp up - surely reading that> is a start ;)  Obviously you can't test it though.  I was going to take a > look at this as well, though I don't

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

On 6/17/06, Philip Dillon-Thiselton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, the wiki has information on how to set ppp up - surely reading that > is a start ;) Obviously you can't test it though. I was going to take a > look at this as well, though I don't have pp atm. Looking at the wiki... correct

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

On 17/06/06, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/17/06, Alper KANAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> But in the mean time, I agree that etcnet is a little bit complicated..> Debian way of network profiles was really simple like Arch's.. But I > really don't know what to do about it, so any implementat

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

On 6/17/06, Alper KANAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But in the mean time, I agree that etcnet is a little bit complicated.. > Debian way of network profiles was really simple like Arch's.. But I > really don't know what to do about it, so any implementation of ppp > interfaces with profiles will b

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

But in the mean time, I agree that etcnet is a little bit complicated.. Debian way of network profiles was really simple like Arch's.. But I really don't know what to do about it, so any implementation of ppp interfaces with profiles will be appreciated.. I hope Arch's network profile system suppor

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

> You're right..Maybe it doesn't really fit Arch philosophy but don't > forget that Arch includes network-profiles by default and it > automatically configures wireless settings according to what you wrote > in the profile file. > > If Arch supports profiles with wireless settings, than I think it

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

You're right..Maybe it doesn't really fit Arch philosophy but don't forget that Arch includes network-profiles by default and it automatically configures wireless settings according to what you wrote in the profile file. If Arch supports profiles with wireless settings, than I think it should also

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

> > What about /etc/net ? > > Has anyone ever played with this stuff? > I just looked at the homepage, this really looks interesting. If it can > easily be integrated into > Arch, it might be a great improvement. IMHO etcnet is too complicated and not fits well into Arch philo

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

Thomas Bächler wrote: >> What about /etc/net ? >> >> Has anyone ever played with this stuff? >> > > I just looked at the homepage, this really looks interesting. If it can > easily be integrated into > Arch, it might be a great improvement. > > There are orphaned pack

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

> What about /etc/net ? > > Has anyone ever played with this stuff? I just looked at the homepage, this really looks interesting. If it can easily be integrated into Arch, it might be a great improvement. ___ arch mailing list arc

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philip Dillon-Thiselton wrote: > I might take a look at this because I think it would be great too :) > > Phil > > > On 12/06/06, Alper KANAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Thanks for your reply.. Debian has also something like network profiles >>

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

I might take a look at this because I think it would be great too :)   Phil  On 12/06/06, Alper KANAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for your reply.. Debian has also something like network profilesand you can easily set it to start ppp0 connection automatically... So they've done it :) I don't k

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

Thanks for your reply.. Debian has also something like network profiles and you can easily set it to start ppp0 connection automatically... So they've done it :) I don't know a way to port to Arch Linux.. But that really can help..! Thomas Bächler wrote: > Alper KANAT schrieb: >> Yup..I really wa

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

Alper KANAT schrieb: > Yup..I really wanna know..Will be it be supported ? If so, is it near ? > > Thanks a lot.. The network profiles (as well as the "old" network settings from rc.conf) only support dhcp and ifconfig. Almost any interface is configured that way. ppp devices need a special dae

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

Yup..I really wanna know..Will be it be supported ? If so, is it near ? Thanks a lot.. Thomas Bächler wrote: > Alper KANAT schrieb: >> How can I add ppp0 to my network-profiles in order to use pppoe ? >> >> Thanks a lot..! > > Short answer: You can't. > Long answer: Coming tomorrow if you reall

Re: [arch] About Network Profiles

Alper KANAT schrieb: > How can I add ppp0 to my network-profiles in order to use pppoe ? > > Thanks a lot..! Short answer: You can't. Long answer: Coming tomorrow if you really want to know. ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlin

[arch] About Network Profiles

How can I add ppp0 to my network-profiles in order to use pppoe ? Thanks a lot..! -- Alper KANAT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://raptiye.org ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch