Re: [arch-general] Automatic File Associations Alloting

2011-11-21 Thread Myra Nelson
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 22:09, Matthew Monaco wrote: > On 11/21/2011 05:49 PM, Mauro Santos wrote: > >> On 21-11-2011 22:08, Bernardo Barros wrote: >> >>> In KDE I don't have this problem. >>> >>> It happens with xmonad and openbox. >>> >>> pcmanfm can configure that too, but automatic picks the

Re: [arch-general] Automatic File Associations Alloting

2011-11-21 Thread Matthew Monaco
On 11/21/2011 05:49 PM, Mauro Santos wrote: On 21-11-2011 22:08, Bernardo Barros wrote: In KDE I don't have this problem. It happens with xmonad and openbox. pcmanfm can configure that too, but automatic picks the last installed package that handle this type of file, and wine is always the las

Re: [arch-general] Automatic File Associations Alloting

2011-11-21 Thread Loui Chang
On Mon 21 Nov 2011 22:36 +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > Excerpts from Bernardo Barros's message of 2011-11-20 00:06:05 +0100: > > text files opening automatically with wine is really a VERY annoying > > thing... > > This is pretty clearly a DE issue. Are you all using the same DE or is > this

Re: [arch-general] Automatic File Associations Alloting

2011-11-21 Thread Leonid Isaev
On (11/22/11 01:50), Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: -~> On 2011-11-21 23:36, Philipp Überbacher wrote: -~> > So how is this stuff controlled these days? Those funky desktop files? -~> > gconf? dconf? Something else entirely? -~> -~> The default programs are kept in -~> ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapp

Re: [arch-general] Automatic File Associations Alloting

2011-11-21 Thread Sorin-Mihai Vârgolici
În data de Ma, 22-11-2011 la 01:59 +0200, Sorin-Mihai Vârgolici a scris: Sorry, forgot to fix the links numbers and add 2 more. [1] http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=defaults.list&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any [2] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keyw

Re: [arch-general] Automatic File Associations Alloting

2011-11-21 Thread Sorin-Mihai Vârgolici
În data de Lu, 21-11-2011 la 22:36 +0100, Philipp Überbacher a scris: > So how is this stuff controlled these days? Those funky desktop files? > gconf? dconf? Something else entirely? Usually other distros deal with this quite well, using a defaults.list file. For example Debian [1] and Ubuntu [2]

Re: [arch-general] Automatic File Associations Alloting

2011-11-21 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On 2011-11-21 23:36, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > So how is this stuff controlled these days? Those funky desktop files? > gconf? dconf? Something else entirely? The default programs are kept in ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list, according to fd.o "MIME Actions spec".

Re: [arch-general] Automatic File Associations Alloting

2011-11-21 Thread Mauro Santos
On 21-11-2011 22:08, Bernardo Barros wrote: > In KDE I don't have this problem. > > It happens with xmonad and openbox. > > pcmanfm can configure that too, but automatic picks the last installed > package that handle this type of file, and wine is always the last > thing I install in the system..

Re: [arch-general] Automatic File Associations Alloting

2011-11-21 Thread Bernardo Barros
In KDE I don't have this problem. It happens with xmonad and openbox. pcmanfm can configure that too, but automatic picks the last installed package that handle this type of file, and wine is always the last thing I install in the system..

Re: [arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Bernardo Barros
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: > And after a complex upgrade you could roll-back to a particular > configuration that happened to work very well for you in a recent > past. > They do it from grub even if the kernel wasn't update. I agree that's odd, but this could be done

Re: [arch-general] Automatic File Associations Alloting

2011-11-21 Thread Leonid Isaev
On (11/21/11 22:36), Philipp Überbacher wrote: -~> Excerpts from Bernardo Barros's message of 2011-11-20 00:06:05 +0100: -~> > text files opening automatically with wine is really a VERY annoying thing... -~> -~> This is pretty clearly a DE issue. Are you all using the same DE or is -~> this comm

Re: [arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Bernardo Barros
Yes, But also the idea of reproducible system configurations is also interesting. You could say, hey, this configuration will work for this because it was tested in such and such a way. And after a complex upgrade you could roll-back to a particular configuration that happened to work very well f

Re: [arch-general] Automatic File Associations Alloting

2011-11-21 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Bernardo Barros's message of 2011-11-20 00:06:05 +0100: > text files opening automatically with wine is really a VERY annoying thing... This is pretty clearly a DE issue. Are you all using the same DE or is this common behavior in all popular DEs? I rarely have any of those issues si

Re: [arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Leonid Isaev
On (11/21/11 12:17), Bernardo Barros wrote: -~> dpkg-reconfigure ? No.. it's not that at all. -~> -~> In fact pacman already have some of those ideas, -~> it tries to be safe when it keeps old package in /var/cache/pacman/pkg, -~> but Nix goes further and tries to make sense of all those changes i

Re: [arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Jeffrey Lynn Parke Jr.
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: > Perhaps the developers want to take a look at this distribution.It is > reported that is written in a `purely functional package management' > and tries to be a highly safe OS, where `upgrading a system is as > reliable as reinstalling from

Re: [arch-general] udev rules from hplip are invalid after update

2011-11-21 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote: > In my case I solve the problem by installing the package hplip-plugin > from AUR. Somehow when the rules where installed by the hp-setup > program something goes wrong. Yeah, the upstream rules are wrong, you need the Arch supplied o

Re: [arch-general] ACPI bug in kernel 3.1?

2011-11-21 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Erik Johnson's message of 2011-11-20 22:08:54 +0100: > Since the 3.1 update, when I suspend with pm-suspend, upon resuming my > netbook goes right back to sleep. This behavior is not present in > 3.0.7-1 but exists in 3.1-4 and 3.1.1-1. However, this only happens when > my netbook is

Re: [arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Bernardo Barros
dpkg-reconfigure ? No.. it's not that at all. In fact pacman already have some of those ideas, it tries to be safe when it keeps old package in /var/cache/pacman/pkg, but Nix goes further and tries to make sense of all those changes in the system. I just see some other ideas that could be inspiri

Re: [arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Leonid Isaev
On (11/21/11 11:43), Bernardo Barros wrote: -~> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Thorsten Töpper -~> wrote: -~> > Seriously, it's probably meant like this but your mail reads like a -~> > "Hey why don't you learn $INSERT_LANG_HERE and rewrite your whole -~> > system." -~> > -~> -~> Hello Thorste

Re: [arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Am 21.11.2011 20:43, schrieb Bernardo Barros: >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Thorsten Töpper >> wrote: >>> Seriously, it's probably meant like this but your mail reads like a >>> "Hey why don't you learn $INSERT_LANG_HERE and rewrite

Re: [arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 21.11.2011 20:43, schrieb Bernardo Barros: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Thorsten Töpper > wrote: >> Seriously, it's probably meant like this but your mail reads like a >> "Hey why don't you learn $INSERT_LANG_HERE and rewrite your whole >> system." >> > > Hello Thorsten, no, you got it

Re: [arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Rogutės Sparnuotos
Bernardo Barros (2011-11-21 11:43): > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Thorsten Töpper > wrote: > > Seriously, it's probably meant like this but your mail reads like a > > "Hey why don't you learn $INSERT_LANG_HERE and rewrite your whole > > system." > > > > Hello Thorsten, no, you got it wrong.

Re: [arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Bernardo Barros
Those guys wrote their ideas down here for those interested: http://www.st.ewi.tudelft.nl/~dolstra/pubs/nixos-jfp-final.pdf

Re: [arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Bernardo Barros
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Thorsten Töpper wrote: > Seriously, it's probably meant like this but your mail reads like a > "Hey why don't you learn $INSERT_LANG_HERE and rewrite your whole > system." > Hello Thorsten, no, you got it wrong. It's about ideas not languages. I think it makes s

Re: [arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:23:58 -0800 Bernardo Barros wrote: > Perhaps the developers want to take a look at this distribution.It is > reported that is written in a `purely functional package management' > and tries to be a highly safe OS, where `upgrading a system is as > reliable as reinstalling f

Re: [arch-general] udev rules from hplip are invalid after update

2011-11-21 Thread Hector Martinez-Seara
Hi, In my case I solve the problem by installing the package hplip-plugin from AUR. Somehow when the rules where installed by the hp-setup program something goes wrong. Hector On 21 November 2011 21:12, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > Excerpts from Tom Gundersen's message of 2011-11-20 14:13:05 +0100

[arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Bernardo Barros
Perhaps the developers want to take a look at this distribution.It is reported that is written in a `purely functional package management' and tries to be a highly safe OS, where `upgrading a system is as reliable as reinstalling from scratch'. http://nixos.org/nixos/ > Because the files of a n

Re: [arch-general] udev rules from hplip are invalid after update

2011-11-21 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Tom Gundersen's message of 2011-11-20 14:13:05 +0100: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Hector Martinez-Seara > wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > My system is fully updated so I guess that I have to assume  that I > > should file a bug against hplip. > > There are no /etc/udev/rules.d/* file

Re: [arch-general] Kernel pkgbuild

2011-11-21 Thread Myra Nelson
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:35, Matthew Monaco wrote: > On 11/21/2011 06:02 AM, Auguste Pop wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Alex Ferrando >> wrote: >> >>> On 21/11/11 01:46, Myra Nelson wrote: >>> Caveats first: I know the package I'm referring to is from the aur

Re: [arch-general] Kernel pkgbuild

2011-11-21 Thread Matthew Monaco
On 11/21/2011 06:02 AM, Auguste Pop wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Alex Ferrando wrote: On 21/11/11 01:46, Myra Nelson wrote: Caveats first: I know the package I'm referring to is from the aur -- the linux-pf kernel. I'm asking here rather than file a needless bug report for someone

Re: [arch-general] Kernel pkgbuild

2011-11-21 Thread Auguste Pop
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Alex Ferrando wrote: > On 21/11/11 01:46, Myra Nelson wrote: >> >> Caveats first: >> >> I know the package I'm referring to is from the aur -- the linux-pf >> kernel. >> I'm asking here rather than file a needless bug report for someone to have >> to squash. >> I a

Re: [arch-general] Kernel pkgbuild

2011-11-21 Thread Alex Ferrando
On 21/11/11 01:46, Myra Nelson wrote: Caveats first: I know the package I'm referring to is from the aur -- the linux-pf kernel. I'm asking here rather than file a needless bug report for someone to have to squash. I also realize not everyone's whims can be considered or satisfied and don't expe