On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:24:17PM -0500, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
> I don't know how to rebuild the ISO, but for the meantime, you could back
> up your
>
> /var/cache/pacman/pkg
>
> dir, since that is where your packages are stored. I hope that helps from
> not having to redownload 500 MB again.
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:05:25PM +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> In the official builds, the downloaded packages are always reused. I am
> not intimitely familiar with the internals of archiso - you could
> subscribe to the arch-releng list and post there, at least Gerardo reads
> that list and wi
This --force seems to do it perfectly, I'll take care. Thanks. Arch rules.
Laurent
2012/1/4 Lars Madson
> Well, the problem is actually caused by the /usr folder cause it's common
> to the old and recent /opt /var. So the old feel unsync with this too
> recent /usr folder and create conflict ca
On 01/04/2012 05:11 PM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
On Jan 4, 2012 6:26 PM, "Peter Lewis" wrote:
On Wednesday 04 Jan 2012 16:16:45 Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
Never said the entire community was a democracy, I did say thought
that like a democracy people vote for the packages to be included.
You are r
On Jan 4, 2012 6:26 PM, "Peter Lewis" wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 04 Jan 2012 16:16:45 Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
> > > Never said the entire community was a democracy, I did say thought
> > > that like a democracy people vote for the packages to be included.
> > > You are right, that the Trusted Users h
On 01/04/2012 04:19 PM, Jason Melton wrote:
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Don Juan wrote:
On 01/04/2012 04:00 PM, Jason Melton wrote:
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Don Juan wrote:
Side note since you have a Qosmio as well have you ever tried messing with
DSDT on yours?
Appreciate
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Don Juan wrote:
> On 01/04/2012 04:00 PM, Jason Melton wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Don Juan wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
> Side note since you have a Qosmio as well have you ever tried messing with
> DSDT on yours?
>
> Appreciate your time.
>
Nah, never mess
On Jan 4, 2012 2:30 PM, "Jonathan Vasquez" wrote:
>
> There have been 12 posts I made in this thread, only 1 was top post
because
> it slipped my key stroke.
While top posting is indeed annoying (I often waste my own time converting
them to inline-style when replying, to preserve context), this t
On 01/04/2012 04:00 PM, Jason Melton wrote:
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Don Juan wrote:
do you know if changing the numbers in say VOLTAGE_NOW to match min on
mine would do anything? I know I can just try but is there something bad
that could happen? At least you have the same kernel messag
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Don Juan wrote:
>
> do you know if changing the numbers in say VOLTAGE_NOW to match min on
> mine would do anything? I know I can just try but is there something bad
> that could happen? At least you have the same kernel message as me and
> basically the same laptop
On 01/04/2012 03:43 PM, Jason Melton wrote:
I don't know that it is directly relevant, but I have a Toshiba Qosimo
X505-Q830, and I get (when plugged in and fully charged):
[✍] /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1 $ cat uevent
POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=BAT1
POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Full
POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1
POW
On 01/04/2012 03:31 PM, Paulo Roberto P. Evangelista wrote:
Yes, i enable the device,yet it is not found
Paulo Roberto
Em 04/01/2012 19:05, "Don Juan" escreveu:
On 01/04/2012 01:49 PM, Paulo Roberto P. Evangelista wrote:
Hi,
someone could help me with my bluetooth?
Bus 007 Device 002: ID
I don't know that it is directly relevant, but I have a Toshiba Qosimo
X505-Q830, and I get (when plugged in and fully charged):
[✍] /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1 $ cat uevent
POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=BAT1
POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Full
POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1
POWER_SUPPLY_TECHNOLOGY=Li-ion
POWER_SUPPLY_CYCLE
On 01/04/2012 03:30 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 00:14:42 +0100
Martti Kühne wrote:
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 01:45:43PM -0800, Don Juan wrote:
Battery 0: Discharging, 87%, 01:57:08 remaining
That is all the output I get. Is there a file that is related to
discharge rate some pla
On 01/04/2012 03:14 PM, Martti Kühne wrote:
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 01:45:43PM -0800, Don Juan wrote:
Battery 0: Discharging, 87%, 01:57:08 remaining
That is all the output I get. Is there a file that is related to
discharge rate some place I can not find? Is this rate built into
the kernel? Fr
Yes, i enable the device,yet it is not found
Paulo Roberto
Em 04/01/2012 19:05, "Don Juan" escreveu:
> On 01/04/2012 01:49 PM, Paulo Roberto P. Evangelista wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> someone could help me with my bluetooth?
>>
>> Bus 007 Device 002: ID 148d:1000 Ralink Technology, Corp.
>>
>> Follow
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 00:14:42 +0100
Martti Kühne wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 01:45:43PM -0800, Don Juan wrote:
> > Battery 0: Discharging, 87%, 01:57:08 remaining
> >
> > That is all the output I get. Is there a file that is related to
> > discharge rate some place I can not find? Is this rat
On Wednesday 04 Jan 2012 16:16:45 Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
> > Never said the entire community was a democracy, I did say thought
> > that like a democracy people vote for the packages to be included.
> > You are right, that the Trusted Users have the final say on what
> > packages get included, I n
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 01:45:43PM -0800, Don Juan wrote:
> Battery 0: Discharging, 87%, 01:57:08 remaining
>
> That is all the output I get. Is there a file that is related to
> discharge rate some place I can not find? Is this rate built into
> the kernel? From what I read this is built in to th
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Dennis Herbrich wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 07:03:56AM -0500, Scott Lawrence wrote:
>> Huh. logkeys apparently does some stunny fuff with stdout
>> (stdout=freopen(fname, "a", stdout) instead of just fopen'ing a new
>> file) - changing that to be more "normal"
Am 04.01.2012 17:32, schrieb gt:
> Hello folks
>
> I was wondering if there is a way to rebuild a custom live disc, using
> archiso, without having to download all the packages over again.
>
> The problem is that after making a few changes to the configuration,
> mainly inside root-image director
On 01/04/2012 01:49 PM, Paulo Roberto P. Evangelista wrote:
Hi,
someone could help me with my bluetooth?
Bus 007 Device 002: ID 148d:1000 Ralink Technology, Corp.
Follow the steps in the link below,When I try to pair with any device
not find anything
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bluet
On 01/04/2012 12:45 AM, Manne Merak wrote:
On 01/04/2012 01:53 AM, Vladimir Niks(ic' wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Manne Merak
wrote:
I have same flashplugin installed, same CPU, with Nvidia, high res
1920x1200
and fullscreen works fine.
There are some oddities with this flash versi
Well, the problem is actually caused by the /usr folder cause it's common
to the old and recent /opt /var. So the old feel unsync with this too
recent /usr folder and create conflict cause all the files are already
there.
The /opt /var will be simply updated if I understand right as the pacman
dat
Hi,
someone could help me with my bluetooth?
Bus 007 Device 002: ID 148d:1000 Ralink Technology, Corp.
Follow the steps in the link below,When I try to pair with any device
not find anything
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bluetooth
$hcitool scan
Scanning ...
$
#hcitool scan
Scanning ...
On 01/04/2012 01:53 AM, Don Juan wrote:
On 01/03/2012 08:20 PM, Don Juan wrote:
I am running Arch on a Toshiba Qosmio x505-q887. I have tried
everything I can find online and in the wikis in setting things up
but no matter what I have tried I can not get rid of the message in
the logs, though
On 01/04/2012 01:04 PM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Don Juan wrote:
On 01/04/2012 08:14 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 03:25:40 -0500
Jonathan Vasquezwrote:
[...]
Just because a person didn't go to
medical school, doesn't mean that they can resea
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Allan McRae wrote:
Are you sure TUs pay attention to votes (apart from the minimum required
>> number)? I always just pulled the packages I wanted...
>>
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repos
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Allan McRae wrote:
> On 05/01/12 07:14, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Karol Blazewicz
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Jonathan Vasquez
>>> wrote:
That's how democracy works. By listening to it's citizens.
Same
On 05/01/12 07:14, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Karol Blazewicz
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Jonathan Vasquez
>> wrote:
>>> That's how democracy works. By listening to it's citizens.
>>> Same goes with the AUR, and when people vote for packages
>>> for
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Karol Blazewicz
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Jonathan Vasquez
>> wrote:
>>> That's how democracy works. By listening to it's citizens.
>>> Same goes with the AUR, and when people vote for pa
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Karol Blazewicz
wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Jonathan Vasquez
> wrote:
>> That's how democracy works. By listening to it's citizens.
>> Same goes with the AUR, and when people vote for packages
>> for inclusion into the community repo
>
> Errr, no. It'
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Jonathan Vasquez
wrote:
> That's how democracy works. By listening to it's citizens.
> Same goes with the AUR, and when people vote for packages
> for inclusion into the community repo
Errr, no. It's still up to devs and TUs to include a package in the repos.
Also
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Don Juan wrote:
> On 01/04/2012 08:14 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 03:25:40 -0500
>> Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Just because a person didn't go to
>>> medical school, doesn't mean that they can research and learn anything
>>>
On Jan 4, 2012 3:27 PM, "Jonathan Vasquez" wrote:
>
> On Jan 4, 2012 11:34 AM, "Javier Vasquez" wrote:
> >
> > On 1/3/12, Angel Velásquez wrote:
> > > ...
> > >
> > > OMG Javier did learn how to bottom-post!
> > >
> > > Congratulations \o/
> > >
> > > - --
> > > Angel Velásquez
> >
> >
> > I'm a
On Jan 4, 2012 11:34 AM, "Javier Vasquez" wrote:
>
> On 1/3/12, Angel Velásquez wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > OMG Javier did learn how to bottom-post!
> >
> > Congratulations \o/
> >
> > - --
> > Angel Velásquez
>
>
> I'm afraid the Javier you're referring to is another one, :-) I've
> seen a more acti
On Jan 4, 2012 11:32 AM, "gt" wrote:
>
> Hello folks
>
> I was wondering if there is a way to rebuild a custom live disc, using
> archiso, without having to download all the packages over again.
>
> The problem is that after making a few changes to the configuration,
> mainly inside root-image dir
Hi Göran,
2012/1/4 Göran Gustafsson :
> The packages i've edited is initscripts, mkinitcpio and filesystem. When
> it comes to initscripts and mkinitcpio i've just cloned the git
> repositories but i'm not sure how i should send the commits upstream.
> git push doesn't work since i don't have the
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:23:35 +0100
Lars Madson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My system has two hard drive, one SSD with / and /home/user on two
> partitions and a HDD mounted on /opt and /var.
>
> The HDD failed, and the system works with only the SSD as it was installed
> like this and then extended to the
On 04.01.2012 20:51, Stefan Wilkens wrote:
> 2012/1/4 Florian Pritz :
>> On 04.01.2012 20:23, Lars Madson wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My system has two hard drive, one SSD with / and /home/user on two
>>> partitions and a HDD mounted on /opt and /var.
>>>
>>> The HDD failed, and the system works with on
On 04.01.2012 20:33, Ionut Biru wrote:
> On 01/04/2012 09:28 PM, Göran Gustafsson wrote:
>> Also, does the filesystem package have a git repository i can use too?
No, it's all in packages svn (ABS).
>> Any help getting started would gladly be appreciated! :)
>
> send git format patches on arch-p
2012/1/4 Florian Pritz :
> On 04.01.2012 20:23, Lars Madson wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> My system has two hard drive, one SSD with / and /home/user on two
>> partitions and a HDD mounted on /opt and /var.
>>
>> The HDD failed, and the system works with only the SSD as it was installed
>> like this and then
On 04.01.2012 20:23, Lars Madson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My system has two hard drive, one SSD with / and /home/user on two
> partitions and a HDD mounted on /opt and /var.
>
> The HDD failed, and the system works with only the SSD as it was installed
> like this and then extended to the HDD.
>
> Now I
On 01/04/2012 09:28 PM, Göran Gustafsson wrote:
> Hello everyone!
>
> I got a few small patches related to esthetical issues that i would like
> to send upstream so everyone else can enjoy them. I'm a little bit lost
> on how i should do this.
>
> The packages i've edited is initscripts, mkinitcp
Hello everyone!
I got a few small patches related to esthetical issues that i would like
to send upstream so everyone else can enjoy them. I'm a little bit lost
on how i should do this.
The packages i've edited is initscripts, mkinitcpio and filesystem. When
it comes to initscripts and mkinitcpio
Hi,
My system has two hard drive, one SSD with / and /home/user on two
partitions and a HDD mounted on /opt and /var.
The HDD failed, and the system works with only the SSD as it was installed
like this and then extended to the HDD.
Only 3 or 4 weeks of update make a difference between the conte
On 01/04/2012 06:35 PM, Vladimir Nikšić wrote:
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote:
Am 04.01.2012 11:51, schrieb Manne Merak:
Also, these are the other Nvidia options that I have tweaked over the
years. Not sure how many are still valid.
Section "Device"
...
Option "RenderAc
On 01/04/2012 01:01 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote:
Am 04.01.2012 11:51, schrieb Manne Merak:
Also, these are the other Nvidia options that I have tweaked over the
years. Not sure how many are still valid.
Section "Device"
...
Option "RenderAccel" "True"
Option "TripleBuffer" "True"
Option "PixmapCac
2012/1/4 Ionut Biru
> On 01/04/2012 06:15 PM, Frederic Bezies wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > After I upgraded libarchive a few hours ago, I noticed totem was not
> > working anymore.
> >
> > Reported bug #27824
> >
> > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27824
> >
> > And when I tried to build it using PK
Thomas Bächler:
> (Better idea: execute a wrapper that closes file descriptor 2, opens a
> new one using pipe(), intercept everything that is printed to that pipe,
> modify it and dump it to fd 1. That wrapper then executes your shell.
> Much cleaner and more universal than a LD_PRELOAD hack.)
Se
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> I'm afraid the Javier you're referring to is another one, :-)
Angel did confuse you with Jonathan Vasquez who still don't know how to
bottom post.
--
Cédric Girard
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> Am 04.01.2012 11:51, schrieb Manne Merak:
>> Also, these are the other Nvidia options that I have tweaked over the
>> years. Not sure how many are still valid.
>>
>> Section "Device"
>> ...
>> Option "RenderAccel" "True"
>> Option "TripleBuf
On 1/3/12, Angel Velásquez wrote:
> ...
>
> OMG Javier did learn how to bottom-post!
>
> Congratulations \o/
>
> - --
> Angel Velásquez
I'm afraid the Javier you're referring to is another one, :-) I've
seen a more active Javier on the list. I participate way less since
though I have years usi
Hello folks
I was wondering if there is a way to rebuild a custom live disc, using
archiso, without having to download all the packages over again.
The problem is that after making a few changes to the configuration,
mainly inside root-image directory, i want to rebuild the iso.
But, running bui
On 01/04/2012 06:15 PM, Frederic Bezies wrote:
> Hello.
>
> After I upgraded libarchive a few hours ago, I noticed totem was not
> working anymore.
>
> Reported bug #27824
>
> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27824
>
> And when I tried to build it using PKGBUILD :
>
> /usr/bin/ld: warning: liba
On 01/04/2012 08:14 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 03:25:40 -0500
Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
[...]
Just because a person didn't go to
medical school, doesn't mean that they can research and learn anything
in the field of medicine. That logic is ridiculous, and as we have and
will exp
Hello.
After I upgraded libarchive a few hours ago, I noticed totem was not
working anymore.
Reported bug #27824
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27824
And when I tried to build it using PKGBUILD :
/usr/bin/ld: warning: libarchive.so.2, needed by
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.6.2/
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 03:25:40 -0500
Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
> [...]
>
> Just because a person didn't go to
> medical school, doesn't mean that they can research and learn anything
> in the field of medicine. That logic is ridiculous, and as we have and
> will experience in our lives, applies towar
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:25 AM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
> You are misunderstanding my goals and what I've said.
>
> I said that I'm trying to help people find and use Arch. Whether they
> are expert users from other distros, or they are Noobies who are
> "willing to read documentation". If a perso
2012/1/4 Angel Velásquez :
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Again, as i've saying before, i don't know who the hell said that the
> natural replacement of ubuntu is Arch .. out community is people who
> like to read, and people who like to investigate .. not people who
> like s
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 01:16:03PM +1100, Gaetan Bisson wrote:
>
> Even Angel's troll brings more signal to this discussion than your "I
> have the same problem and no clue how to diagnose/fix it" messages...
>
...And the first use of the word with T goes to... oh, wait a minute!
That was good t
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 04/01/12 09:54, Peter Cannon wrote:
> On 04/01/12 03:25, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
>
> Carry on doing what *you* want not what others want you to do. I
> too joined "The pain of making tea." that is Arch Linux due to the
> statement that used to be
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Lorenzo Bandieri wrote:
>
> Ignorance should never be an excuse for a rude response, at least when
> ignorance isn't accompanied by the obvious willingness to remain
> ignorant.
Epic quotation, coudn't agree more.
And as Don said, I think that a Linux user doctor
On 01/04/2012 05:52 AM, Lorenzo Bandieri wrote:
Think of Doctors. Sometimes when you feel sick, you go online and you
try to do your due diligence. Trying to find out what is wrong with
you (Diagnosing yourself), even though you aren't a doctor. But you
try to do it anyways because searching for
> Think of Doctors. Sometimes when you feel sick, you go online and you
> try to do your due diligence. Trying to find out what is wrong with
> you (Diagnosing yourself), even though you aren't a doctor. But you
> try to do it anyways because searching for information, and finding a
> solution tend
On 04/01/12 03:25, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
Carry on doing what *you* want not what others want you to do. I too
joined "The pain of making tea." that is Arch Linux due to the statement
that used to be on display;
*Q)*When I run “pacman –sync” it comes up with “could
not open sync database:rep
On 4 January 2012 16:25, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
> Think of Doctors. Sometimes when you feel sick, you go online and you
> try to do your due diligence. Trying to find out what is wrong with
> you (Diagnosing yourself), even though you aren't a doctor. But you
> try to do it anyways because search
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 07:03:56AM -0500, Scott Lawrence wrote:
> On 01/04/2012 06:33 AM, SanskritFritz wrote:
> > I started a topic on the forum, but we didnt reach to any solution:
> > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=129528
> >
> > In hope for a more competent audience, I repost my qu
On 01/04/2012 06:33 AM, SanskritFritz wrote:
> I started a topic on the forum, but we didnt reach to any solution:
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=129528
>
> In hope for a more competent audience, I repost my question now here:
>
> It looks like there is an archlinux specific problem
I started a topic on the forum, but we didnt reach to any solution:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=129528
In hope for a more competent audience, I repost my question now here:
It looks like there is an archlinux specific problem with logkeys:
http://code.google.com/p/logkeys/issues/de
Am 04.01.2012 11:51, schrieb Manne Merak:
> Also, these are the other Nvidia options that I have tweaked over the
> years. Not sure how many are still valid.
>
> Section "Device"
> ...
> Option "RenderAccel" "True"
> Option "TripleBuffer" "True"
> Option "PixmapCacheSize" "30"
> Option "OnDema
On 11:21 Wed 04 Jan , Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> Splitting the thread (sorry I use gmail, so it won't split for you
> guys on mutt or whatever)...
Nah, it's fine for mutt.
On 01/04/2012 11:11 AM, Vladimir Nikšić wrote:
That is strange. I have KDE4 will effects (wife likes them ;) and it works
fine.
Long shot, but try adding:
[...]
Long shot... and miss. :)
Also, these are the other Nvidia options that I have tweaked over the
years. Not sure how many are stil
On 01/04/2012 11:11 AM, Vladimir Nikšić wrote:
That is strange. I have KDE4 will effects (wife likes them ;) and it works
fine.
Long shot, but try adding:
[...]
Long shot... and miss. :)
mmm, what about running "xrestop" and checking again for an offending
process.
Manne
On 01/03/2012 08:20 PM, Don Juan wrote:
I am running Arch on a Toshiba Qosmio x505-q887. I have tried
everything I can find online and in the wikis in setting things up but
no matter what I have tried I can not get rid of the message in the
logs, though my battery life seems semi reasonable, ro
> That is strange. I have KDE4 will effects (wife likes them ;) and it works
> fine.
> Long shot, but try adding:
[...]
Long shot... and miss. :)
On 01/04/2012 01:53 AM, Vladimir Niks(ic' wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Manne Merak wrote:
I have same flashplugin installed, same CPU, with Nvidia, high res 1920x1200
and fullscreen works fine.
There are some oddities with this flash version. For example...
http://www.youtube.com/wat
On 04/01/12 21:25, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
>
> Those are my worthless cents as well I suppose :).
>
Not so worthless I think. Is good to discuss this stuff in the open.
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Pham Bao Trung
wrote:
> @Jonathan Vasquez
>
> I must say that I totally support your point of view. I have seen some
> TU/devs/geeky users showed bad temper, mocking on newb at #archlinux who
> really came there to seek for help and wanted to switch to Arch. They j
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