Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 16.08.2012 15:08, schrieb Felipe Contreras: >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: >>> Am 16.08.2012 14:14, schrieb Felipe Contreras: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM, fredbezies wrote: > I'm an old archlinux

Re: [arch-general] Think twice before moving to systemd

2012-08-16 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Felipe Contreras > wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto >> wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Felipe Contreras >>> wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:17 A

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.08.2012 15:08, schrieb Felipe Contreras: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: >> Am 16.08.2012 14:14, schrieb Felipe Contreras: >>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM, fredbezies wrote: I'm an old archlinux user (first installation back in december 2008), and for

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd

2012-08-16 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: > On 16 August 2012 01:21, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> So, if you *already* know that there are problems, why not wait? >> What's wrong with waiting another year, and see if you don't see so >> many problems then? What's the hurry to break

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 16.08.2012 14:14, schrieb Felipe Contreras: >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM, fredbezies wrote: >>> I'm an old archlinux user (first installation back in december 2008), >>> and for a long time, I was very satisfied with arch-general.

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Calvin Morrison
> The problem here are a small handful of people who start flames and > spread FUD. Banning a handful of people from the list is an easier > solution IMO. I am generally against such measures, but it seems we will > have no choice. > Can we please make the difference between flaming and trolling s

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 08/16/2012 03:22 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: We're all consenting adults here. Just hit that delete button, ESC-d, Del or adjust your scorefile/junk filter So you're saying that instead of fixing the problem, every user should remove the offending posts. Further, Clever people always have a l

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.08.2012 08:10, schrieb Dennis Herbrich: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:53:02AM -0400, Jeremiah Dodds wrote: >> As far as ML noise goes, that's what killfiles and client-side filters >> are for, no? People can (or at least should be able to) configure their >> mailreaders to mute people or topic

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.08.2012 14:14, schrieb Felipe Contreras: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM, fredbezies wrote: >> I'm an old archlinux user (first installation back in december 2008), >> and for a long time, I was very satisfied with arch-general. But some >> people - can we define them as bottom holes ? -

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM, fredbezies wrote: > I'm an old archlinux user (first installation back in december 2008), > and for a long time, I was very satisfied with arch-general. But some > people - can we define them as bottom holes ? - are rotting this > mailing list, and the community t

Re: [arch-general] IRC channel

2012-08-16 Thread Thomas Rand
On 16 August 2012 13:48, mike cloaked wrote: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Jameson wrote: >> On Aug 16, 2012 2:10 AM, "Thomas Rand" wrote: >>> I use gmail yet ooh I bottom post! >>> how >>> click reply >>> hold down ctrl+end >>> this takes you to the bottom of the reply window tada! >> >>

Re: [arch-general] IRC channel

2012-08-16 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Jameson wrote: > On Aug 16, 2012 2:10 AM, "Thomas Rand" wrote: >> I use gmail yet ooh I bottom post! >> how >> click reply >> hold down ctrl+end >> this takes you to the bottom of the reply window tada! > > Anybody know where to find the ctrl or end keys on an An

Re: [arch-general] IRC channel

2012-08-16 Thread Jameson
On Aug 16, 2012 2:10 AM, "Thomas Rand" wrote: > I use gmail yet ooh I bottom post! > how > click reply > hold down ctrl+end > this takes you to the bottom of the reply window tada! Anybody know where to find the ctrl or end keys on an Android device? =-Jameson

Re: [arch-general] Personal note

2012-08-16 Thread Guus Snijders
2012/8/16 Vytautas Stankevičius : > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:45 AM, G. Schlisio wrote: >> Am 15.08.2012 21:43, schrieb Tom Gundersen: >>> [...] >> what about cleaning arch-general by creating a new list (arch-offtopic, >> arch-flame etc) and moving those diskussion there >> just a spontaneous id

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Congratulations to the trolls on the > effect they've had. Except I would see some of your posts as trolling and I'm sure you would see some of mine as trolling too. I have tried not to but have re-iterated some things when I have felt that blatant inaccuracies have come along and I am sorry fo

Re: [arch-general] OT: "Major distributions" (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-16 Thread Thomas Rand
On 16 August 2012 11:08, Rodrigo Rivas wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia < > archli...@ishpeck.net> wrote: > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_novelty >> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition please don't continue this OT thread her

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Jeremiah Dodds wrote: > With "-general" MLs, I don't really see the point of censorship of > anything that isn't blatant spam, which the systemd threads are not. I > particularly don't see the point when it's generally trivial for people > who are bothered by some

Re: [arch-general] OT: "Major distributions" (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-16 Thread Rodrigo Rivas
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia < archli...@ishpeck.net> wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_novelty > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition

Re: [arch-general] Systemd screen brightness

2012-08-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.08.2012 04:40, schrieb Michael Nawrocki: > On 08/15/2012 05:02 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: >> Am 15.08.2012 03:30, schrieb Michael Nawrocki: >>> I'm trying to get my laptop backlight keys (fn+f6/f7) to adjust the >>> brightness of my toshiba laptop backlight. >> I am curious. With 3.3 and earli

Re: [arch-general] Personal note

2012-08-16 Thread Vytautas Stankevičius
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:45 AM, G. Schlisio wrote: > Am 15.08.2012 21:43, schrieb Tom Gundersen: >> >> We don't currently have a satisfactory answer to this question. >> Hopefully a solution will present itself soon, I know people are >> discussing the problem. After all, we DO want useful feedb

Re: [arch-general] citação

2012-08-16 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Aurko Roy wrote: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > >> Multitasking: Reading in the bathroom. >> > > Are you also smoking something in the bathroom? > I apologize to everyone. Obviously, a case of wrong address, as the title in non-English s

Re: [arch-general] Personal note

2012-08-16 Thread G. Schlisio
Am 15.08.2012 21:43, schrieb Tom Gundersen: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: Hi guys, As most devs have done already, I'm going to change my relationship with arch-general. What is the preferred way to contact you

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Jeremiah Dodds
Thomas Rand writes: > On 16 August 2012 08:54, Jeremiah Dodds wrote: >> B: If it's noise to you, kill or filter out the threads in your >> reader. > > how about the OP takes his argument to another place considering they > are off topic & here to insight argument. The only on topic part was > th

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

2012-08-16 Thread Thomas Rand
On 16 August 2012 08:54, Jeremiah Dodds wrote: > Thomas Rand writes: > >> On 16 August 2012 06:53, Jeremiah Dodds wrote: >>> >>> I tend to prefer systems that provide mailing lists and forums as two >>> separate frontends to the same data. >>> >>> As far as ML noise goes, that's what killfiles a

Re: [arch-general] systemd

2012-08-16 Thread Fred Verschueren
Op 15-08-12 18:49, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto schreef: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Mikael Eriksson wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 01:50:01PM +0200, Fred Verschueren wrote: My problem: When booting with init=/bin/systemd I have the following phenomenon: Job dev-mapper-nvidia_cjjcaiiep1.dev

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