Re: [arch-general] Suggestions wanted: nvidia + nouveau in AUR PKGBUILD

On Feb 26, 2013 7:04 PM, "Oon-Ee Ng" wrote: > > I'm an nvidia user who finally decided to try out nouveau and > currently have it working, but want to keep nvidia installed > just-in-case. I also maintain > nvidia-beta/lib32-nvidia-utils-beta/nvidia-utils-beta in the AUR. > > As far as I can see,

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Tino Reichardt wrote: > * Heiko Baums wrote: >> Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:15:16 +0200 >> schrieb fredbezies : >> >> > Don't you read the *important* word : testing ! Are you blind ? >> >> I read that. And what goes into [testing]? Yes! Bingo! Software version >> whic

Re: [arch-general] bind9, apache 2 & sftp management

On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > i know that, my problem is "central management" so my users can add their > domains etc. http://www.proftpd.org/docs/contrib/mod_sftp.html ... at work we run a setup that uses PAM to authenticate, but the PAM module ONL

Re: [arch-general] How to align partitions?

On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 11:19 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > > Yuk! :-) I'd only change the unit setting: > > u mib > > ... much simpler than bytes, and then +1 and -1 are always aligned (and > appropriate for MBR) > > I simply leave ~1mib gap between partitions ..

Re: [arch-general] How to align partitions?

On Sep 3, 2012 4:41 PM, "Paul Gideon Dann" wrote: > > On Friday 31 Aug 2012 01:45:40 Stayvoid wrote: > > > Recent versions of fdiks, parted, gdisk do it for you. > > > > I use parted. > > AFAICT it can tell that partitions aren't aligned, but there is no > > option to do it automatically. > > > >

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: libsystemd to systemd

On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> On Aug 31, 2012 7:47 PM, "Kevin Chadwick" wrote: >> > >> > > > I will give one example. Lennart says come on who connects to sshd >> more >> > > > than once a month. I can't believe he's never seen a sshd log with >> > > > constant pass att

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: systemd pulseaudio

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Joakim Hernberg wrote: > On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:57:05 +0100 > Kevin Chadwick wrote: > >> p.s. I wasn't being sarcastic about the JS package, polkit now has >> javascript based config files! > > WTF... > > I want some of that stuff they smoke at Red Hat :) ... i'

Re: [arch-general] SystemD poll

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > [...] > > A bum on the street might not be a reliable source of information, but > he/she might still be saying the truth. Cops wouldn't take their word > at face value (or almost anyone for that matter), but if a bum says > there was a

Re: [arch-general] SystemD poll

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > No, I never said anything like that. All I said is [...] > > [...] > [...] > [...] > [...] > [...] [...] [...] *yaaawn* ... ... are we done? you guys are really boring me to death here -- interest level is pitifully low. yawn. if you

Re: [arch-general] kdeplasma-applets-networkmanagement: NetworkManager is not running. Please start it.

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Martin Zecher wrote: > > You're a genius. Not the Mac one, of course. heh, thanks :-) > Where did you get that > info? I didn't notice any change in pam at all... why from my gigantic, bulbous brain of course! where else?! nah i just remembered looking over tha

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS, Rollback, Grub2

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, 1126 wrote: > On Mon, 20. Aug 13:49, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> >> in short, you need something like this in fstab or equiv: >> >> /dev/disk/by-label/btrfs-root /var/lib/btrfs-root btrfs >> defaults,noatime,subvolid=0

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS, Rollback, Grub2

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:53 AM, 1126 wrote: > Hello List! > > I can't seem to get rollback-support from mkinitcpio-btrfs to work > properly. I've installed ArchLinux more or less like it is shown in the > wiki-article btrfs-on-root: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing_on_Btrfs_root

Re: [arch-general] kdeplasma-applets-networkmanagement: NetworkManager is not running. Please start it.

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Martin Zecher wrote: > > This is the only error I get: > > UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUBJOB DESCRIPTION > NetworkManager-wait-online.service loaded failed failed Network > Manager Wait Online > > Networkmanager runs and connects fine

Re: [arch-general] SystemD poll

On Aug 19, 2012 10:35 AM, "Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana" < dottorblas...@archlinux.us> wrote: > 2012/8/19 Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia > > > > No, maintaining both boot methods, even if upstream weren't > > abandoning init scripts (which they are going to) would be > > a terrible waste of time.

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Geoff wrote: > On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:22:56 -0500 > Myra Nelson wrote: > > > > I agree. I have read all the current threads and the few words which struck > me > with greatest force were in a post from Marti Raudsepp, where he said that an > advantage of system

Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: >> Am 16.08.2012 14:14, schrieb Felipe Contreras: >>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM, fredbezies wrote: I'm an old archlinux user (first installation back in december 2008), >

Re: [arch-general] Partition mounting in systemd [WAS: Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > On 08/15/2012 11:01 AM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Baho Utot >> wrote: >>> >>> On 08/14/2012 08:53 PM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Au

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: > > [...] > > Please think of systemd as the freedesktop.org specs for desktop files > or graphical interoperability between distributions (X11, d-bus). It > is a new 'upstream' that we can rely on for running our GNU/Linux > systems. It s

Re: [arch-general] Partition mounting in systemd [WAS: Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> though they may very well just keep chugging on, >> pretending all is well. > > Very last post on systemd as you've said this before and I chose not to > respond. > > No, they will throw a decriptive or general error and do what the scrip

Re: [arch-general] Partition mounting in systemd [WAS: Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Baho Utot wrote: > On 08/14/2012 08:53 PM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: >> >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:55 AM, David Benfell >>> wrote: Does systemd not use the standard mount program and follow /et

Re: [arch-general] Think twice before moving to systemd

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Felipe Contreras > wrote: Well, I see absolutely no evidence of such an analysis, so consider me a skeptic. >>> >>> That's ok. We are not in the PR business, we are not selling anything. >> >> You a

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] btrfs-progs

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Jackson Alley wrote: > > I've rebooted and confirmed the udev rule I found does not resolve the > issue. I don't believe the problem lies with mkinitcpio as I'm not using > a root btrfs system but rather in the init scripts > (https://projects.archlinux.org/initscri

Re: [arch-general] Install wiki - recommendations regarding 'swap' ?

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 8:46 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > All, > > After installing without AIF, I want to update the install wiki to drop a > note > about swap. It isn't addressed at all. What is the current Arch recommendation > regarding swap creation? I.E.: recommended for systems w/less tha

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] btrfs-progs

On Aug 3, 2012 7:56 PM, "Jackson Alley" wrote: > > On 08/03/2012 08:50 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > > On Aug 3, 2012 5:32 PM, "Jackson Alley" wrote: > >> On 08/03/2012 06:20 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > >>> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 12:04 AM

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] btrfs-progs

On Aug 3, 2012 5:32 PM, "Jackson Alley" wrote: > > On 08/03/2012 06:20 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Jackson Alley wrote: > >> Ok, looks like I've got an unusual setup and am having issues at boot. > >> I've got multi-device btrfs raid and am still using the old rc

Re: [arch-general] tty0 not available anymore with systemd

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Karol Babioch wrote: > Hi, > > Am 29.07.2012 07:59, schrieb C Anthony Risinger: >> the link isn't broken, right? pointing to, say, /lib/systemd/... > > No, its not: > > [root@vpcs ~]# ls -l > /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.want

Re: [arch-general] tty0 not available anymore with systemd

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 8:59 AM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Karol Babioch wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Am 29.07.2012 00:56, schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas:

Re: [arch-general] tty0 not available anymore with systemd

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Karol Babioch wrote: > Hi, > > Am 29.07.2012 00:56, schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas: >> Try enabling getty@tty1.service: > > Unfortunately this didn't work. It was enabled already anyway. the link isn't broken, right? pointing to, say, /lib/systemd/... what happens if y

Re: [arch-general] In the systemd scheme, where should startup/stop scripts for things systemd can't handle go?

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:39 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> for example, i modify several .service files -- even ones that are >> shipped upstream -- because they are pointlessly configured as >> `forking` when they

Re: [arch-general] In the systemd scheme, where should startup/stop scripts for things systemd can't handle go?

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:04 PM, David Benfell wrote: > On 07/27/2012 02:01 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> >> Not really, as far as I know. However, it seems that it is common >> to put "helper scripts" that are shipped with systemd in >> /usr/lib/systemd/ and those shipped with udev in /usr/lib/udev

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:56 AM, David Benfell wrote: >> >> last command also fails. this is one reason i had the `link up` >> command at the end -- it always succeeds. >> >> what's wrong with delaying `link up` until the end? > > My understanding (/assumption/misconception?) was that one had to

Re: [arch-general] lib -> usr/lib

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:33 AM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> i've got nothing to back this up, but i'm guessing this one is going >> to be a little trickier ... mainly because there are multiple packages >>

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:13 AM, David Benfell wrote: > > Even with all those dashes in front of every command, it exits with a > code and is plainly unhappy. Which I find mystifying. hmm, i'm not 100% sure either -- my guess is because the `add` commands are in fact failing (addr already added)

Re: [arch-general] lib -> usr/lib

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Christian Hesse wrote: > Rodrigo Rivas on Thu, 2012/07/26 10:18: >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Jayesh Badwaik >> wrote: >> >> > Why will /opt have to go? >> > >> >> Well, then: >> >> /opt -> /usr/opt >> >> And everyone will be happy :) >> >> BTW, will th

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:18 AM, David Benfell wrote: > > [Install] > Alias=sys-subsystem-net-devices-lan0.device.wants/u.net.static at > lan0.service > > I see that %I is supposed to stand for eth0; how do I connect this > with eth0? i modified it for you here: http://dpaste.com/775539/plain/

Re: [arch-general] Systemd +1

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Aitor Pazos wrote: >> >> Right, because /sbin/init isn't binary and none of the scripts relied >> on a interpreter that wasn't binary code? > > They are indeed, but it's a matter of size. The size of /sbin/init is 40.592B > and /usr/lib/systemd/systemd 866.576B, w

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:57:02AM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > >> Then create a service file in /etc/systemd/system/davids-network.service >> >> [unit] >> description= David's Network Setup >> Wants= network.target >> Before= network.targ

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Manolo Martínez wrote: > On 07/25/12 at 01:47am, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> to reiterate the above ... it works fantastic. the Pandaboard runs 9 >> custom unit files (1/2 of which are just mods to the shipped unit >> files): &

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > The 25/07/12, Heiko Baums wrote: >> >> systemd I have to run a special command to have a daemon started at >> boot time (which I additionally have to remember), I have to write such >> an ini file instead of just writing or editing a simpl

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> I wonder if ArmArch will run systemd. > > ArchLinux ARM ships systemd, just like we do. On my ARM machine (a > Raspberry Pi running ArchLinux ARM) I use it, and as I mentioned it > w

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:44 PM, David Benfell wrote: > > Hi, > > Because it's summer, and I'd really rather not try to figure all this > out during the school year, I'm trying to figure out systemd *now*, > rather than waiting until rc.conf goes away. > > I actually had trouble with rc.conf when

Re: [arch-general] Arch's move to systemd integration

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Nicholas MIller wrote: > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Karol Babioch wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Am 22.07.2012 21:11, schrieb Myra Nelson: >> > On my system rc.conf is 716 B. The three files >> > (hostname 8 B, vconsole.conf 47 B, and locale.conf 30 B) take up less >

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Damjan wrote: Wrong, they are going to ram systemd down our throats. Believe you me. And why is the onus always on the end-user? >>> >>> >>> Most of us who work on initscriptst agree that systemd is superior and >>> that most people will move to it

Re: [arch-general] Was [arch-dev-public] [ANNOUNCE] initscripts-2012.07.3

On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Myra Nelson wrote: > > Tom: > > The concerns expressed by Evangelos and Tobias were some of the concerns I > had when the push towards systemd started. Systemd is great if you are > managing a large number of computers, but excessive overkill for one or two > deskt

Re: [arch-general] Arch install scripts : feedback and questions.

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:44 PM, fredbezies wrote: > [...] >> >> grub 2 is currently in testing. Once this moves to core and grub1 will >> get removed from the repo we will include it for the next iso. > > Great. Because installing grub2 by hand is kinda hellish. It is why I > used archboot on my

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Am Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:28:00 +0200 > schrieb fredbezies : > >> Hello. >> >> I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very >> "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like >> good old arch/setup ? >

Re: [arch-general] login fails after update

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > I agree. We are currently in the final stages of testing a new iso. I'm > also advocating we drop the core instal as it is causing too many problems > in case it is outdated. what if we only built net-install images, and "core" images were

Re: [arch-general] Upgraded kmod, but --ignored linux & glibc, modules still in /lib - can I reboot safely?

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 4:14 PM, David Benfell wrote: > > I'd have to look into using a not-so-custom kernel (presumably from > the Arch package). Ten years ago, I used to build kernels routinely. > But it's not trivial anymore. nah none of that :-) i detest compiling things. i run the standard

Re: [arch-general] Upgraded kmod, but --ignored linux & glibc, modules still in /lib - can I reboot safely?

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:25 PM, David Benfell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/15/12 08:07, Leonid Isaev wrote: >> >> The kernel is not new, but the same with a changed location of the >> modules. Why would you ever want to mask linux? >> > Those of us who are ru

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS + Rollback + Subvolumes

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Gour wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:31:59 -0500 > C Anthony Risinger wrote: > >> i would recommend dropping the subvols ASAP, and reviewing the >> original wiki linked above. > > Hmm...at the moment I use RAID-1 - 1 RAID partition

Re: [arch-general] Upgrading password hashes

On Jul 11, 2012 3:06 AM, "Chris Sakalis" wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > >> By the way, is it possible to upgrade password hashes without an > >> intermediate password, assuming the new/old passwords are identical? > > > > You can have no password at all to star

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS + Rollback + Subvolumes

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:44 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:31 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Installing_on_Btrfs_root&oldid=129890 > > [...] > >> i would recommend dropping the subvols A

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS + Rollback + Subvolumes

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:31 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Installing_on_Btrfs_root&oldid=129890 [...] > i would recommend dropping the subvols ASAP, and reviewing the > original wiki linked above. ... i meant to also suggest you

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS + Rollback + Subvolumes

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:10 AM, 1126 wrote: > > So I now have a subvolume __active which represents /, one for home, one for > usr > and one for var. [...] > Am I missing something or is just not possible to use different subvolumes > (like > __active, home, usr, var) and being able to rollba

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> "[...] I'll simply state that 12 PPM correspond to one second per day >> roughly. > > I'm skeptical and am more inclined to think ntp has measurement > problems or a decimal has been missed or something but it's easy to > check with real wo

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 22:06:27 +0100 > Mauro Santos wrote: >> >> From data I have access to, taken from machines running ntpd, I can say >> the following about the drift in PPM stored in ntpd's drift file: >> >> my laptop: -9.699 >> machine 1: -

Re: [arch-general] Huge log file for SLiM

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Alexandre Isoard wrote: > > Read man pages of systemd. This will avoid a lot of struggling. > > From "man 8 systemd-journald": > >> By default the journal stores log data in /run/log/journal/. Since >> /run/ is volatile log data is lost at reboot. To make the data >

Re: [arch-general] Huge log file for SLiM

On Jul 3, 2012 3:41 PM, "Sébastien Leblanc" wrote: > > That might be somewhat of an issue as I am running systemd and not the > default initscripts, therefore there is no rc.conf file on my > system... Also, `ps` does not report a syslog process running. > > Running `systemctl start syslog.service

Re: [arch-general] Nvidia/vesafb/GRUB2

On Jun 29, 2012 2:12 AM, "arnaud gaboury" wrote: > > Switching to Nouveau would be best indeed, but not at its current stage. Why? Do you have problems running it? I [unfortunately] have several systems with nvidia cards, of varying age/caliber, all running nouveau with 3D-ness enabled in X ...

Re: [arch-general] Booting archlinux .iso to take a look

On Jun 22, 2012 5:55 PM, "David Benfell" wrote: > On 06/22/12 15:10, Mauro Santos wrote: > > > > You could try archboot[1]. tpowa has been doing a great job at > > providing unofficial up-to-date install/live images. They provide > > the same as the official install images (but up-to-date :p) so >

Re: [arch-general] Arch box fine tuning

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Arno Gaboury wrote: > On 06/14/2012 04:18 PM, Rodrigo Rivas wrote: >> >> And then... without even noticing, you will have learned a lot about even >> the most arcane kernel options... >> > Sounds good. I will then stick to your approach, as it makes sense. persona

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Dropping squirrelmail

On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 05/05/2012 10:32 AM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> FYI: I plan to drop squirrelmail from [extra]. It is orphaned and it >> wont work with PHP 5.4. (According to pkgstats it has no users anyway) >> >> Greetings, >> >> Pierre >> >

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 04/29/12 11:10, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> >> perhaps it is a matter of taste, but i don't think the init system's >> purpose is to simply "initialize" things.  it is a state manager, esp.

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:05:54 -0500 > C Anthony Risinger wrote: > >> "bloat" is not measured by LOC, but rather by degrees of uselessness. > > I disagree here. If many don't use/need those features asid

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Jan Steffens wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Kevin Chadwick > wrote: >> We are going to sacrifice, simplicity, amount of code to look for bugs >> and most importantly, ease of troubleshooting. One of the beauties of >> Unix is the error information. A

Re: [arch-general] archroot - proper way to Start Over? (rm -r $CHROOT/$USER)?

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:27 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > > ... i thought you were asking a) "share a base read-only chroot", so > you don't have to rebuild/clean it.  since the base is readonly, you > must then --bind mount (shared/persistent) or create an emp

Re: [arch-general] archroot - proper way to Start Over? (rm -r $CHROOT/$USER)?

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 6:23 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 03/02/2012 04:48 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> IIRC makechrootpkg used to create an overlay/union before starting, >> which would keep your original root intact.  if you put your builds on >> a btrfs filesystem i

Re: [arch-general] archroot - proper way to Start Over? (rm -r $CHROOT/$USER)?

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:31 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > > Guys, > >  What is the best way to clean a chroot without doing another mkarchroot? > >  In the chroot I have /root and /david. With Trinity there are 2 different Qt > dependencies that can be used Qt3 and TQt3. I have built a set of packa

Re: [arch-general] mkinitcpio

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Myra Nelson wrote: > > cp: warning: source file > `/lib/modules/3.2.9-1-ARCH/kernel/fs/ext4/ext4.ko.gz' specified more > than once > > What causes this warning? Does it need to be fixed? Is the error > something I've done or is it in the hooks from mkinitcpio? > >

Re: [arch-general] mkinitcpio

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Simon Perry wrote: > On 02/03/12, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > > | i guess you missed the "make a backup copy of your old > | initramfs-linux.img" part?  you should have been able to simply edit > | you bootloader on the fly, and use th

Re: [arch-general] Gringotts, alternatives?

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Taylor Hedberg wrote: > > If all you need to store securely are text files, and you are a Vim > user, you can use Vim's built-in Blowfish encryption support. > >    :set cryptmethod=blowfish > > Then use the :X command to set a key and encrypt the current buffer. n

Re: [arch-general] mkinitcpio

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Simon Perry wrote: > On 02/03/12, Thomas Bächler wrote: > > | Actually no. But you can make a backup copy of your old > | initramfs-linux.img and compare lsinitcpio -a output for the old and new > | one. > > It's a lot of output to parse and diff accurately. comm -

Re: [arch-general] Howto look outside chroot for local git tree?

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Damien Churchill wrote: > > You could mount --bind the location of your local git repositories to > a point inside your chroot, that's probably the quickest and simplest > way of doing it, although it offers no protection of your git > repositories from being wiped

Re: [arch-general] Howto prevent LDFLAGS --sort-common, --as-needed, , --hash-style=gnu

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:46 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: > >  I'm working on building kwin-style-crystal and I have patched acinclude.m4, > aclocal.m4 and configure to remove references to --as-needed, but when I run > configure, I still get the three unwanted LDFLAGS put back in the makefile > som

Re: [arch-general] Any recoomendations for Wi-Fi USB sticks? Was: Wi-Fi rtl8192s

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Is there any stick here [1] that can be recommended? > [1] > http://www.reichelt.de/WLAN-Adapter/0/30/index.html?;ACTION=2;LA=2;GROUPID=770;SID=13TzAwOH8AAAIAAF@6hfge3fbb785f260124355b56475abd124ec > Perhaps one of the 300Mbit/s once? > > It's

Re: [arch-general] jackdbus

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: > On 29 January 2012 22:12, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> How do I set up jackdbus? > > Standard jackd configuration will not work for jackdbus. It is a > dynamic system and overall takes a different approach to initialise > and has a different co

Re: [arch-general] offtopic ml (WAS eons ago: Re: change in mount behaviour?)

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:14:01 -0600 > schrieb C Anthony Risinger : > >> not always, and i use a mobile 70%+ of the time.  i don't want to >> create a new filter for every long-winded thread to nowhere.  maybe i >

Re: [arch-general] offtopic ml (WAS eons ago: Re: change in mount behaviour?)

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: > > This wouldn't change much. The original topic was Arch related. The > discussion about PA etc. evolved from this. So such a discussion > wouldn't be switched to another mailing list. Same for any other > similar discussions. See my try to ch

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Martti Kühne wrote: > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 05:44:46PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 16:57 +0100, Martti Kühne wrote: >> > it's actually possible to get most features that come with gdm, eg. >> > session chooser, working with xdm. >> >> Thi

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: > > If Lennart would either fix all those issues in PulseAudio and systemd, > so that they would really work for everybody and would really bring > advantages for everybody or at least no disadvantages, or if his > software would just be optiona

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:41:54 -0600 > schrieb C Anthony Risinger : > >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Fons Adriaensen >> wrote: >> > >> > Wouldn't most users associate /media with cd, dvd etc. ?

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > Wouldn't most users associate /media with cd, dvd etc. ? > Seems like on odd name for what systemd uses it for. for as long as i remember anyway, the DE will often mount stuff there automatically, ergo it's not safe to put manual mount p

Re: [arch-general] New PC and data copying -- am I doing this right?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Thanasis Georgiou wrote: > On 27 January 2012 20:37, Kwpolska wrote: >> I bought a new PC.  I'm going to get it a bit later, I need a plan for >> data movement.  I created this, can someone please tell me if it's >> okay, and, if it's not, what should I change? >

Re: [arch-general] OT: iPad - FLOSS on the iPad - data transfer between an Arch PC and an iPad

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 13:22 -0200, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Rogutės Sparnuotos >> wrote: >> > Or am I the only one wondering why list is turning into a forum? >> >> Pretty much... I thought the words

Re: [arch-general] pacman 4 logic error - what part of 'no' doesn't it understand?

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 08:07:10 -0600 > "David C. Rankin" wrote: > >> Guys, >> >>   I have found a logic error in pacman (I think). I don't like replacing both >> the kernel and kernel-lts in the same 'pacman -Syu' call. So I answered 'no' >> w

Re: [arch-general] Some help with systemd needed

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:31 PM, G. Schlisio wrote: > Am 23.01.2012 22:26, schrieb Tom Gundersen: >> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:32 PM, G. Schlisio  wrote: >>> >>> i'm playing around with systemd atm and everything works fine except of >>> the >>> sound output. >> >> You should not need to do anythi

Re: [arch-general] Upgrading password hashes

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:09:33 +0100 > Tobias Frilling wrote: > >> I know next to nothing about bcrypt, but you can configure rounds in pam > > I could say similar about pam. In OpenBSD rounds are in plain sight in > /etc/login.conf > > The PA

Re: [arch-general] Upgrade of bluez breaks A2DP?

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: > On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 10:04 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> On Jan 22, 2012 4:53 PM, "Karol Babioch" wrote: >>> >>> However I wanted to make sure whether anyone has experienced someth

Re: [arch-general] Upgrade of bluez breaks A2DP?

On Jan 22, 2012 4:53 PM, "Karol Babioch" wrote: > > However I wanted to make sure whether anyone has experienced something > similar after the upgrades? I couldn't find any bug reports so far about > this, so is there anything I could have missed? Or am I the only one > using a Bluetooth headset o

Re: [arch-general] Lighttpd and passphrase protected SSL certificate

On Jan 15, 2012 12:58 PM, "Mauro Santos" @ gmail.com > wrote: > > On 15-01-2012 16:38, Audric Schiltknecht wrote: > > > > Upstream says (http:// redmine.lighttpd.net /projects/1/wiki/

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote: > > Simplicity and minimalism would be what motivates me the most. If I > don't need an initramfs to get my system boot up, why have one? I know > the benefits that initramfs provides, but I don't need any of them. > All I need my computer

Re: [arch-general] install problem

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Peter Nikolic wrote: > > Hi folks > > Well havin had a big sucsess on the laptop  so i thoight i would at last try > this box   but  alsa  the install cd boots but is unable to find my sata disk > now i know the disk is ok else i would not be typing this from suse

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote: > Btw, for the first picture, it says that /usr is not mounted. I > believe that is because my /usr in in /dev/mapper/arch-usr and that > doesn't get mounted until later in the boot process. > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jonathan Vasq

Re: [arch-general] PKGBUILD question

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Don Juan wrote: > > the tarball being downloaded converts properly and dl's fine, it just seems > to be in the next step for package, unless I just really am not grasping > this yet. If so feel free to say I need to read more. But I think its > something easy I am j

Re: [arch-general] linux-api-headers in core is 3.1.5 while linux is 3.1.6

On Jan 6, 2012 9:52 PM, "Patrick Buddeberg" @ gmail.com > wrote: > > Honestly, even a "Let Me Google that For You" link would be useful to > my mental blocked self right now. http:// lmgtfy.com

Re: [arch-general] [off-topic] Suspend seems not to work with nVidia Nouveau driver

On Jan 4, 2012 2:30 PM, "Jonathan Vasquez" wrote: > > There have been 12 posts I made in this thread, only 1 was top post because > it slipped my key stroke. While top posting is indeed annoying (I often waste my own time converting them to inline-style when replying, to preserve context), this t

Re: [arch-general] unionfs or aufs, available somewhere?

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Magnus Therning wrote: > On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 10:59:19AM -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> On Jan 3, 2012 8:51 AM, "Magnus Therning" wrote: >>> >>> Ouch, that sucks.  I'll just revert to making copies and wasting &g

Re: [arch-general] Suspend seems not to work with nVidia Nouveau driver

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote: > On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Alex Ferrando wrote: >> On 03/01/12 21:25, Javier Vasquez wrote: >>> >>> % 'grep' resume /etc/mkinitcpio.conf HOOKS="base udev autodetect pata scsi >>> sata usb filesystems keymap usbinput resume" >> >> Last

Re: [arch-general] unionfs or aufs, available somewhere?

On Jan 3, 2012 8:51 AM, "Magnus Therning" wrote: > > Ouch, that sucks. I'll just revert to making copies and wasting space then :( If performance isn't that enormously critical I've used FUSE based union file systems in the past with success ... it worked well for my needs. -- C Anthony [mobil

Re: [arch-general] ldconfig -> Aborted.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 4:01 PM, clemens fischer wrote: > >> # ldconfig -v >> ldconfig: Can't stat /usr/lib64: No such file or directory >> /usr/lib/libfakeroot: >>        libfakeroot-0.so -> libfakeroot.so >> /usr/lib/perl5/core_perl/CORE: >>        libperl.so -> libperl.so >> /lib: >> Aborted >

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