On 09/19/2010 08:02 PM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote:
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 03:22:27PM -0400, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
I have updated the wiki to include some basic information on setting
up a local mirror. I believe it provides enough information to help
someone set up local mirror while still
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 03:22:27PM -0400, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
> I have updated the wiki to include some basic information on setting
> up a local mirror. I believe it provides enough information to help
> someone set up local mirror while still holding them accountable for
> a certain amount o
On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 15:17 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 03:22:27PM -0400, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
> > If you don't like the attitude don't use arch. Arch isn't here to
> > babysit you and hold your hand. This is truly what sets arch apart.
> > The users who have been here f
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 03:22:27PM -0400, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
> If you don't like the attitude don't use arch. Arch isn't here to
> babysit you and hold your hand. This is truly what sets arch apart.
> The users who have been here for 4-5+ years know exactly what I'm
> talking about.
Not quite
On 09/19/2010 02:02 PM, Nathan Wayde wrote:
On 19/09/10 17:26, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
[...]
As I posted on the forum... How hard is it to run rsync and look at the
man page for rsync? rsync is the *only* command that is needed to create
a local mirror.
We want to discourage this behavior as m
On 22:31 Sun 19 Sep , Fess wrote:
> On 12:26 Sun 19 Sep , Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
> > On 09/19/2010 11:45 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> >> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:46:13PM -0400, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
> >>> There is nothing preventing you from creating a local mirror. If you
> >>> can't figure out
On 12:26 Sun 19 Sep , Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
> On 09/19/2010 11:45 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:46:13PM -0400, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
>>> There is nothing preventing you from creating a local mirror. If you
>>> can't figure out how to create a local mirror using the reso
On 19/09/10 17:26, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
[...]
As I posted on the forum... How hard is it to run rsync and look at the
man page for rsync? rsync is the *only* command that is needed to create
a local mirror.
We want to discourage this behavior as much as possible and it is really
quite trivial
On 18/09/10 19:17, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote:
[...]
Guus,
I checked the current mirrorlist before replying, correct me if I'm
wrong but I can't find any entry relating to the domain Nathan
included in his mailing, nor is he listed as a tier1 on the
developer's wiki. Maybe I've missed something
On 09/19/2010 12:16 PM, Mauro Santos wrote:
On 09/19/2010 04:45 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
Most distros like to build up their presence and increase the numbers
and usage. Obviously if everyone goes out there and attempts to build
local mirrors and all, that would put a big drain on the arch pack
On 09/19/2010 11:45 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:46:13PM -0400, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
There is nothing preventing you from creating a local mirror. If you
can't figure out how to create a local mirror using the resource
available, you probably shouldn't be using arch.
N
On 09/19/2010 04:45 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> Most distros like to build up their presence and increase the numbers
> and usage. Obviously if everyone goes out there and attempts to build
> local mirrors and all, that would put a big drain on the arch package
> update process. I don't think many
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 08:45:05AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:46:13PM -0400, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
> > There is nothing preventing you from creating a local mirror. If you
> > can't figure out how to create a local mirror using the resource
> > available, you probabl
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:46:13PM -0400, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
> There is nothing preventing you from creating a local mirror. If you
> can't figure out how to create a local mirror using the resource
> available, you probably shouldn't be using arch.
Now, there's a supportive answer if I ever
On 09/18/2010 05:44 PM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote:
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 02:50:17PM -0500, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
which seems an appropriate question, given the circumstances of
removal; if the only reason was to discourage the creation of local
mirrors... well, to me at least, that seem
On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 14:50 -0500, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
>
> could a script be created that simply spreads the load to _all_ the
> official mirrors? the DB files could be pulled from archlinux.org,
> but the packages could be retrieved from all mirrors in parallel...
Archlinux.org is just an
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 02:50:17PM -0500, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
> which seems an appropriate question, given the circumstances of
> removal; if the only reason was to discourage the creation of local
> mirrors... well, to me at least, that seems a poor reason.
>
> i sympathize with some of th
2010/9/18 Stefan Erik Wilkens :
> 2010/9/18 Guus Snijders :
>> On 17-09-10 09:34, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote:
>>>
>>> Well then the situation is rather simple, isn't it.
>>>
>>> If the amount of traffic a private local mirror generates for the
>>> official mirror is greater than the amount of traffi
2010/9/18 Guus Snijders :
> On 17-09-10 09:34, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote:
>>
>> Well then the situation is rather simple, isn't it.
>>
>> If the amount of traffic a private local mirror generates for the
>> official mirror is greater than the amount of traffic that any local
>> clients (excluding a
On 17-09-10 09:34, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote:
Well then the situation is rather simple, isn't it.
If the amount of traffic a private local mirror generates for the
official mirror is greater than the amount of traffic that any local
clients (excluding any "other purposes" unrelated to the sync p
Well then the situation is rather simple, isn't it.
If the amount of traffic a private local mirror generates for the
official mirror is greater than the amount of traffic that any local
clients (excluding any "other purposes" unrelated to the sync process
of course) generate for this local mirror
On 17/09/10 00:21, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 16:16 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 09:54:16PM +0200, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote:
On 16/09/10 19:39, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
you don't get to tell anyone how to use their bandwidth.
But can we at least say that grab
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 16:16 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 09:54:16PM +0200, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote:
> > > On 16/09/10 19:39, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
> > > you don't get to tell anyone how to use their bandwidth.
> >
> > But can we at least say that grabbing packages witho
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 09:54:16PM +0200, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote:
> > On 16/09/10 19:39, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
> > you don't get to tell anyone how to use their bandwidth.
>
> But can we at least say that grabbing packages without using them is
> wasting mirror bandwidth, and thus not somethi
> On 16/09/10 19:39, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
> you don't get to tell anyone how to use their bandwidth.
But can we at least say that grabbing packages without using them is
wasting mirror bandwidth, and thus not something we want. In fact,
something that should be frowned upon?
>> You most certainly do not pay for the Mirror's bandwidth! Just look at
>> this article: http://lwn.net/Articles/178618/
>
> my contract said I paid for it...
What? Sure, you may pay for n GB of download, but the mirror still
has to pay for n GB of _upload_ in order to serve it to you.
--
Tav
On 16/09/10 20:10, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
On 09/16/2010 02:59 PM, Nathan Wayde wrote:
On 16/09/10 19:39, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
[..]
Ok a few things here
1. There are a *few* instances where having a local mirror is warranted
not sure where you were going with that but i feel like you'
On 09/16/2010 02:59 PM, Nathan Wayde wrote:
On 16/09/10 19:39, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
[..]
Ok a few things here
1. There are a *few* instances where having a local mirror is warranted
not sure where you were going with that but i feel like you've left a
bit off of that sentence.
2.
On 16/09/10 19:39, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
[..]
Ok a few things here
1. There are a *few* instances where having a local mirror is warranted
not sure where you were going with that but i feel like you've left a
bit off of that sentence.
2. There are many, many, many packages that are i
On 09/15/2010 12:20 AM, Fess wrote:
On 19:13 Tue 14 Sep , C Anthony Risinger wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Nathan Wayde wrote:
here's what I'd(and I imagine most others who know about sharing the cache)
use a local mirror for:
to be able to sync all other systems from it. plain and
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Nathan Wayde wrote:
> from the sounds of it all those solutions require an internet connection. my
> use-case is about installing on-demand what i want without an internet
> connection - the same reason i never clear my cache when i uninstall stuff.
> If i'm on th
On 15/09/10 01:13, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Nathan Wayde wrote:
here's what I'd(and I imagine most others who know about sharing the cache)
use a local mirror for:
to be able to sync all other systems from it. plain and simple. if my
systems don't have interne
On 19:13 Tue 14 Sep , C Anthony Risinger wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Nathan Wayde wrote:
> > here's what I'd(and I imagine most others who know about sharing the cache)
> > use a local mirror for:
> >
> > to be able to sync all other systems from it. plain and simple. if my
> > syste
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Nathan Wayde wrote:
> here's what I'd(and I imagine most others who know about sharing the cache)
> use a local mirror for:
>
> to be able to sync all other systems from it. plain and simple. if my
> systems don't have internet connection or something like that the
On 14/09/10 19:45, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Fess wrote:
I still don't get it.. You have small pipe. But a lot of people have bigger. So
- if you can't use - do not use it.
Why EVERYONE shouldn't use it?
it really is much more appropriate for everyone involve
On 13:45 Tue 14 Sep , C Anthony Risinger wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Fess wrote:
> > I still don't get it.. You have small pipe. But a lot of people have
> > bigger. So - if you can't use - do not use it.
> > Why EVERYONE shouldn't use it?
>
> it really is much more appropriate for
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Fess wrote:
> I still don't get it.. You have small pipe. But a lot of people have bigger.
> So - if you can't use - do not use it.
> Why EVERYONE shouldn't use it?
it really is much more appropriate for everyone involved if you just
use a shared cache, and respe
On 13:29 Tue 14 Sep , David C. Rankin wrote:
> On 09/14/2010 12:08 PM, Fess wrote:
>> 1)Have you heard about 3rd party mirrors?
> Yep - it's bandwidth for somebody
>
>> 2)People who use gnome must die. No, really - too much traffic on servers.
> To each his own - I'm using fluxbox at the moment
On 09/14/2010 12:08 PM, Fess wrote:
1)Have you heard about 3rd party mirrors?
Yep - it's bandwidth for somebody
2)People who use gnome must die. No, really - too much traffic on servers.
To each his own - I'm using fluxbox at the moment :p (very small)
3)With local mirror you have fast
On 11:47 Tue 14 Sep , David C. Rankin wrote:
> On 09/14/2010 08:13 AM, Fess wrote:
>> err.. what?
>> Don't you think, that mirrorsync in crontab is MUCH more easier way to get
>> new packages, huh?
>> I'm using local mirror for 3 years and i have no idea why i shoulnd't use it
>> know.
>
> With c
On 09/14/2010 08:13 AM, Fess wrote:
err.. what?
Don't you think, that mirrorsync in crontab is MUCH more easier way to get new
packages, huh?
I'm using local mirror for 3 years and i have no idea why i shoulnd't use it
know.
With commercial bandwidth limited to 1M down, I worry about the extr
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Fess wrote:
> On 04:00 Sun 12 Sep , David C. Rankin wrote:
> > On 09/09/2010 07:40 AM, Fess wrote:
> >> Page "Local mirros" was removed from wiki by this reason:
> >>
> >> -
> >> It is generally frowned upon to create a local mirror due the bandwidth
> that is
On 04:00 Sun 12 Sep , David C. Rankin wrote:
> On 09/09/2010 07:40 AM, Fess wrote:
>> Page "Local mirros" was removed from wiki by this reason:
>>
>> -
>> It is generally frowned upon to create a local mirror due the bandwidth that
>> is required.
>> There is not a good reason to create a loca
On 09/12/2010 09:44 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
Hey David,
Thanks for the suggestion; when it comes to learning more about how to
do more with and get more out of the Arch environment, I'm all ears.
I'm keeping this message here for future reference when I might need
to maintain several machines und
On 09/09/2010 07:40 AM, Fess wrote:
Page "Local mirros" was removed from wiki by this reason:
-
It is generally frowned upon to create a local mirror due the bandwidth that is
required.
There is not a good reason to create a local mirror, since one of the
alternatives below will likely mee
On 09/09/10 14:11, Pierre Schmitz wrote:
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:55:35 +0300, Evangelos Foutras
wrote:
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Fess wrote:
Page "Local mirros" was removed from wiki by this reason:
-
It is generally frowned upon to create a local mirror due the bandwidth that is
r
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:55:35 +0300, Evangelos Foutras
wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Fess wrote:
>> Page "Local mirros" was removed from wiki by this reason:
>>
>> -
>> It is generally frowned upon to create a local mirror due the bandwidth that
>> is required.
>> There is not a goo
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Fess wrote:
> Page "Local mirros" was removed from wiki by this reason:
>
> -
> It is generally frowned upon to create a local mirror due the bandwidth that
> is required.
> There is not a good reason to create a local mirror, since one of the
> alternatives b
Page "Local mirros" was removed from wiki by this reason:
-
It is generally frowned upon to create a local mirror due the bandwidth that is
required.
There is not a good reason to create a local mirror, since one of the
alternatives below will likely meet your needs.
-
I think it's very
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