Hi Pamela,
Will you be sending articles via pdf attachment instead of ARIEL?
Can I ask why you will not be using ARIEL any longer? I notice that
many others are posting this same message.
Thank you,
Kim Guarino
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:57:40 -0600
Pam Kindelberger wrote:
This is to le
Good morning, Joe,
Thank you for letting us know this. Can I ask why you are no
longer using ARIEL? I see that there are others who have been posting
this same message. I'm just curious as to the reason(s).
Thank you,
Kim
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:10:49 +
"Gutekanst, Joe" wrote:
This product hasn't been updated in over 6 years. This poses both security and
compatibility issues as machines are upgraded. I am pushing for the same move
over here.
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From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu
[mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu]
I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the
send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just
cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been
updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives.
W
Odyssey stand alone is free and works well for us,
Edward Helmrich
Iona College
Ryan Library
Interlibrary Loan Office
715 North Ave.
New Rochelle, NY 10801
VXI, NYULUZ
914-633-2352
docdeliv...@iona.edu
-Original Message-
From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu
[mailto:arie
We've been using Odyssey and ILLiad for several years with
good results. Since the Odyssey component is free, I'm a little puzzled by the
number of libraries still using Ariel, given the lack of vendor support - it
seems like the vendor abandoned it some time ago. The latest h
Hi all,
I'm just curious, I've looked at Odyssey and Illiad and was wondering if
someone could tell me why one or both of them are better than simply scanning
and emailing articles.
Thank you,
Terry
IAF - ILL
Governors Sate Univ. Library
-Original Message-
From: arie-l-boun...@mailm
We continue to use Ariel vs. Odyssey standalone because Ariel allows us to post
articles to our web server and automatically notifies the email addressee to
that effect. This allows us to scan articles of large file size without having
to deal with attachment size limits. Certainly Ariel is un
I've tried and tried to get Odyssey to work and haven't been able to. I still
use ariel. I don't seem to have as much trouble with it as everyone else does.
So I will continue to use it for those libraries that still have it and email
the others.
Sharon Weber
Interlibrary Loan Assistant/Porte
For us, the biggest problem with using email to deliver articles is that so
many of our journal holdings are now electronic and our license agreements do
not allow email as a delivery method. They are OK with Ariel or Odyssey
however.
Another occasional problem with sending articles as email a
Response to the first paragraph...Ariel includes email so how can they be okay
with Ariel email and not regular email??? I'll leave it at that, since anything
else I add would be mean-spirited about not well thought out rules.
Second paragraph...most emails now have reasonable limits and if you
Re Ariel email--when those license rules were written, Ariel did not include
email to patron. Ariel's email support for sending to the borrowing library
emails the article as a multi-page TIFF with a separate header file to what
should be a dedicated Ariel email address. Ariel then imports the f
Today...I am going to work on setting up a new system (Windows 7) and Ariel
4.1.(1?).
I work in Systems and not ILL so every three years I read up on the virtues of
patience just for this event.
As for alternatives, we use ILLIAD and Odyssey too! I have spoken to our
Resource Sharing manage
Another alternative:
OCLC's experimental Article Exchange
http://experimental.worldcat.org/AE/
It allows you to upload a PDF, then email the password to access it. Very
useful when email attachment sizes pose a problem, or when you cannot send via
Ariel/Odyssey.
Graham Fredrick
Information an
Hello,
In our case, the problem with the size of the e-mails are mostly on our
side. When I send too many pdf I have to delete the sent messages or else
I get an error message that my database is full. The IT depart. says that
we have a very large mailbox already.
This is annoying ; when a li
We just went live with ILLiad and are still using Ariel for those libraries
that still use only that. However, if Ariel becomes a problem for us down the
road, we will drop it and use Odyssey only. I will send email attachments only
if the journal used is not license restricted.
Brenda Austin
We currently use all three and do not look forward to each time we upgrade the
box on which Ariel resides. I tried to convince our previous circ/ill manager
to drop Ariel but she always felt there were still a sufficient number of
libraries that use ONLY Ariel that removing it would be too damag
I was ready to try dropping Ariel last year, but my ILL staff person wanted to
continue to use it because of the number of libraries still on it. However,
this past summer she relented given the number of documents that now are only
delivered to her via email and the number of libraries I've se
I agree with Kathy.
Most vendors license agreements do not allow email as a delivery
methods. They do not mind Ariel and Odyssey even though the end result
can be the same. With Ariel and Odyssey the vendors feel confident
Libraries will abide by the rules of delivery, such as a print copy to
We use Ariel, Odyssey, Article Exchange and email to send requests and we're
happy to receive requests in any of those ways as well.
Like Tom, we use Ariel because it gives us the ability to post documents to
a server for our patrons to view, so at this point, to eliminate Ariel
completely w
Odyssey can send and receive tifs and pdfs, and can send and receive
files that are too large to import into Ariel. Articles are stored on
our ILLiad server for whatever length of time we set up. Our library IT
guy doesn't want to ever hear the word Ariel again, or deal with Infotrieve.
We r
The reason is simple most campus e-mail systems restrict the size of
attachments, and in some cases strip out the attachment from e-mails
sent from outside of the network. PDF files can become very large very
quickly depending on the number of pages and if color scans are sent.
Also PDF files and m
WE use Odyssey, Ariel 3.4 and e-mail, we even fax and mail. Whatever. We will
Ariel until either there are so few that want it or until it dies or becomes
incompatible with ILLIAD. We do have a dedicated computer for it.
Mary Zettwoch
Head, Interlibrary Loan
University of Missouri - St. Louis
I'm learning a lot from this discussion and second Christy's comments below,
particularly her comment about Ariel being a "working" product. When I saw all
of the messages in my inbox today from the ILL list from folks dropping Ariel,
I thought, as I have several times in the past, what's going
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