Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question

2023-05-08 Thread Noah
On Mon, 8 May 2023, 22:19 William Herrin, wrote: > On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 9:46 AM Noah wrote: > > Firstly, leasing should never be an option. Its an idea that the > community has rejected the leasing IPv4 for a very long time and often led > to mix reactions. > > Hi Noah

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question

2023-05-08 Thread Noah
ho nolonger need them, then the RIR allocates the space to those resource members with need. Please let me know what you think and if a policy proposal would be > warranted. > I will vehemently oppose such a proposal if it were ever be drafted. Noah ___

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question

2023-05-08 Thread Noah
capacity if it will be able to continue serving the community as it always did. Noah ___ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage y

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation Requirement for 8.5.5

2022-09-12 Thread Noah
Hi Matthew While I appreciate the legal teams opinion, I am not yet convinced to this end on this issue and as such my sentiments remain and I still oppose the idea entirely. Noah On Wed, 24 Aug 2022, 22:50 Matthew Wilder, wrote: > Hi PPML, > > Staff and Legal review has been

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation Requirement for 8.5.5

2022-08-03 Thread Noah
Hi Matthew Thank you so much for the update and community input consideration to that end. Cheers Noah On Wed, 3 Aug 2022, 22:25 Matthew Wilder, wrote: > Hi PPML, > > I appreciate the lively discussion thus far on ARIN-2022-3, including > concerns around what prosecutorial

Re: [arin-ppml] Thanks! - and a couple of reminders... (was: Re: CEO that takes the time to answer all questions)

2022-07-19 Thread Noah
/www.arin.net/announcements/20220621-consultopen/ > > Is the consultation open to all internet community which includes we folks who are not from the ARIN region in terms of participating on the same? Noah > ___ ARIN-PPML You are receiving thi

Re: [arin-ppml] CEO that takes the time to answer all questions

2022-07-19 Thread Noah
and issue > raised by anyone and everyone. Not many CEOs even answer 1-2 emails. > I would also like to echo the same sentiment as Hank... it's refreshing to see how John engages with this ARIN community. Cheers Noah ___ ARIN-PPML You are receiving

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation Requirement for 8.5.5

2022-06-23 Thread Noah
gt; Louie > Hi Louie That is very true and I am one such participant. Noah > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 11:15 PM John Santos wrote: > >> Hi Ronald - >> >> "Members" are people (or more typically corporations or other legal >> entities) &

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation Requirement for 8.5.5

2022-06-23 Thread Noah
not overlook the need for a legitimate process. Cheers Noah On Thu, 23 Jun 2022, 19:06 Matthew Wilder, wrote: > Hi Noah, et al. > > It appears that a few of you are not convinced of the problem statement > for this Draft policy. Just a reminder this is a draft policy authored by > the Po

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation Requirement for 8.5.5

2022-06-21 Thread Noah
mpact of Admin Contacts being clueless to what its that Tech contacts do. So I oppose the policy for using time as an excuse to remove an important process that ensures legitimacy. Noah ___ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribe

Re: [arin-ppml] AFRINIC vote buying

2022-06-10 Thread Noah
rget. https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/013810.html On that thread, your response was in full defence of NRS as you really went on to explaib what they are all about as though you had insider knowledge of the organization. Cheers, Noah ___ A

Re: [arin-ppml] AFRINIC vote buying

2022-06-01 Thread Noah
in that video is not misinformation as we have other members who have collaborated openly what is being stated in the video. Noah On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, 01:07 Daniel Schroder, wrote: > > I second this as well, Owens presenting arguments with what seems like > good logic with short t

Re: [arin-ppml] AFRINIC vote buying

2022-06-01 Thread Noah
ff the rails at this point. > > Owen > Owen Please be honest and dont mislead the Arin community. There is a second side to each story. Time will tell. Noah > > > > On May 31, 2022, at 23:05 , Steve Spence > wrote: > > > > This is a well done video. I

Re: [arin-ppml] The annual limit on total maintenance fees for legacy number resources under the ARIN fee schedule

2022-04-13 Thread Noah
RIN was forced to make a contract > to make us feel special. > This is a reasonable advice. You got 25 years of special rights, is that not enough? > You got that right :-) > Sign the RSA. The same RSA anyone else signs. > Yap Cheers Noah __

Re: [arin-ppml] Proposal to ban Leasing of IP Addresses in the ARIN region

2021-09-24 Thread Noah
y not the LIR but folks who are not LIR but figured they would profit from brokering the limited addresses. I am curious? Why an LIR whose ARIN membership fees is peanuts could go about leasing addresses instead of profiting from only the services they pro

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Remove Circuit Requirement

2021-09-22 Thread Noah
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, 13:40 Owen DeLong, wrote: > > > On Sep 21, 2021, at 16:16 , Noah wrote: > > If it makes business sense to lease, the best is to seek sub-allocations > from existing LIR by requesting a service from the said LIR. > > Chances are the cost of direct su

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Remove Circuit Requirement

2021-09-22 Thread Noah
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, 02:56 Mike Burns, wrote: > Hi Noah, > > Will you concede that lessors and lessees are willingly engaging in > leasing today? > There is no such thing. You are calling end-user assignments and suballocations that result from LIR/ISP connectivity serv

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Remove Circuit Requirement

2021-09-21 Thread Noah
this policy is all about? Noah On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, 02:23 Mike Burns, wrote: > Hi Noah, > > No, the LIR who provides backbone connectivity to the WIPS can't spare a > /21 for a potentially temporary use. > They told the WISP to get their own addresses. > This is the world we live i

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Remove Circuit Requirement

2021-09-21 Thread Noah
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, 01:58 Mike Burns, wrote: > Hi Noah, > > "I dont see why a small startup WISP would prefer brokers or IPv4 leasers > to an LIR.!" > > It's because we are out of addresses here in ARIN. > But the LIR who provide IP based services and circuit ha

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Remove Circuit Requirement

2021-09-21 Thread Noah
to an LIR.! Noah On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, 00:47 Mike Burns, wrote: > Hi Noah, > > > > Thanks for your thoughts, my replies are inline. > > > > “Transfers are generally a prerogative of brokers who don't necessarily > provide any form of network services. It does make

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Remove Circuit Requirement

2021-09-21 Thread Noah
the registry useless and thereby essentially > lead to no need for the registry after all. > > > > Noah > > > > Hi Noah, > > > > Are you aware that there has been no needs-test for RIPE transfers for > many years and the RIR system hasn’t collapsed? > Tran

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Remove Circuit Requirement

2021-09-21 Thread Noah
with your sentiment and the requirement for a circuit should continue to stand. Any policy that removes such a requirement would render the management of Internet Number Resources by the registry useless and thereby essentially lead to no need for the registry after a

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Remove Circuit Requirement

2021-09-21 Thread Noah
assigned IPv4 addresses to end-user customers. This business model would set a dangerous precedence not only in the ARIN region but across other regions. What does "Users of network even mean"? Does that include any Tom, Mary and Jack with a smart handset? Noah ___

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Remove Circuit Requirement

2021-09-21 Thread Noah
rovide services as was justified in their initial request based in need. I oppose this change and draft policy. Also we should not be creating policies like this. An Internet number resource should remain under the management of the RIR not IPv4 leasers. Noah _

Re: [arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

2021-09-10 Thread Noah
value of > the stakes." > On the contrary, the organization will come out of it strong and better and the lessons will make AFRINIC improve a great deal across all aspects from its community, to its governance and above all, the internet communi

Re: [arin-ppml] AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System

2021-08-29 Thread Noah
ace while pretending to be a mini-RIR, then you certainly will spend 99% of the time updating the whois for every LOA you dash out per prefixes you lease all over the globe. Noah ___ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [arin-ppml] Inter-RIR transfer Policy compatibility with Afrinic_Resource Transfer Policy proposal

2020-10-13 Thread Noah
to provide an analysis > (technical, financial, legal or other), of the impact of the draft policy > proposal." > +1 Gregory and just to add that indeed AFRINIC staff have since indicated that they are in touch with all RIR including ARIN to this effect. Noah ___