[AsburyPark] Pam Lamberton

2005-04-11 Thread Rod
Pam has summarized her own position... you can look at it here... http://www.restoreradio.com/pam_lamberton.htm --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about Pam Lamberton? Can anyone summarize her position? > > -Original Message- > From: dfs

[AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What really is going > to stop them from doing major damage to something in the middle of the > night? > A city council with backbone and a pair of HANDCUFFS. Enforcement to the fullest extent of the law and putting the perso

[AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread dfsavgny
Sorry, but I am against in principle donating money to pay for what APartners is obligated to do. It would be like paying off the mob for protection. If we don't get a change in council and one that will pull the trigger, then we are in trouble. Lightly, I am going to say something that some

[AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread asburycheech
Hi Group, --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Demanding them to stick to their promises hasn't worked so well so far has it?" Honestly, when has anyone on this council actually demanded anything of the developer? Can anyone think of one deadline that th

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread Lighty
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties Raising money or raising commitments for money might be a far-fetched idea, but something NEW must be done.  We can all talk about a change in the council, we can talk about forcing Asbury Partners to stick to their agreements, but

[AsburyPark] Donations for historic properties - out of your f'ing minds!

2005-04-11 Thread Skip Bernstein
With the exception of Dan, are you guys out of your f'ing minds? When confronted by a bully, the last thing you want to do is give in to his bullying; The Fish is the biggest bully Asbury's ever had to face. With nary a word to the contrary, this stupid, corrupt or incompetent council has g

RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread Tyler, Mark
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties Good points. -Original Message- From: Heshy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:35 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties I would donate m

[AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread Heshy
I would donate money to help save the Casino. Its historical and sentimental value, as well as potential value as a tourist destination, cannot be underestimated. For people like myself, with ties to AP but now living elsewhere, it's the only way to help. I would not donate money to a politic

[AsburyPark] Planning Board meeting tonight

2005-04-11 Thread wernerapnj
Here's you chance to participate and see the system in action. 7 PM, Council Chambers, Fishman to appear. Agenda on the city web site: cityofasburypark.com Werner Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubs

[AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread Tony Tedesco
I really like this suggestion, but not only for what it may do for the issue of the Casino. What i like about it the most is that, above and beyond the issue we are discussing, it really drives home the point that the candidates need to know that they will be questioned and solutions will

Re: [AsburyPark] Digest Number 1211

2005-04-11 Thread asburyben
I have to agree.  As a candidate for city council, I intend to debate Kate on the issues facing our city and the record of this council.  As a human being, I must say that an accusation of adultery the likes of which are being made on this forum are completely unnecessary and have no place here

RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread Tyler, Mark
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties What about Pam Lamberton?  Can anyone summarize her position? -Original Message- From: dfsavgny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 4:59 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Don

[AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread dfsavgny
Ben Schneider and Jim Keady I know are for saving them and holding APartner's feet to the fire. I hear good things from Ed Johnson too, however, I am disturbed that he is running on the same ticket with Loffredo, Sanders and Bruno, who have laid out the welcome mat for the developer. I think

RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread Tyler, Mark
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties Actually - I would donate to other candidates depending on their statements about ensuring the preservation of historic treasures.  Has anybody compiled the various candidates' statements on how to save Asbury Park's historic buid

[AsburyPark] Re: Restoration of historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread dfsavgny
Alternate strategy is good, but if we start collecting money to do something they should do then for sure they will never do it. I am not talking about negative publicity. Perhaps I am too much of an optimist, but I beleive if you really had a 3 vote majority on the council to enforce the agr

[AsburyPark] Re: Donations for historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread dfsavgny
Mark See Stuart's website http://www.koperweis.com/ where he has a donation form. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To that end - Stuart Koperwise contact me and let me know how to donate to > your campaign. > > -Original Message- > Fro

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Restoration of historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread Lighty
>But I ain't giving one nickel for something that APArtners > should be doing as part of the agreement. I understand what you're saying and I think you may be standing with the majority of people in town; however, I think that if everyone is set on forcing Asbury Partners to live up to the agre

[AsburyPark] Re: Restoration of historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread dfsavgny
Okay, if they turn it into truly unfettered public space, yes, I would contribute. You know how these people deal with their public obligations, look what they do with the easement in CH at times? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well - the Casino i

RE: [AsburyPark] Donations for historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread Tyler, Mark
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Donations for historic properties To that end - Stuart Koperwise contact me and let me know how to donate to your campaign.  -Original Message- From: dfsavgny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 4:03 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sub

[AsburyPark] Donations for historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread dfsavgny
Perhaps our money can be more effectively used to donate to the city council campaigns of persons who will compel APartners to fulfill their end of the bargain or leave town. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Restoration of historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread Tyler, Mark
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Restoration of historic properties Well - the Casino is one of the things about Asbury that I love.  And even though I agree with you Dan, I would still donate money because I want it saved.  Maybe the donated money could be a very low interest construction loan.

[AsburyPark] Re: Restoration of historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread dfsavgny
Tony, we could use more love-fests here (sic). Mark and Lightly, yes, I would donate money as well and would be willing to assist in raising money, UNDER OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES but not these. If for instance, the property or properties were under public ownership still then I would do it and per

RE: [AsburyPark] Restoration of historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread Tyler, Mark
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Restoration of historic properties We could find out what Asbury Partners and the City would be willing to agree to if we came up with say - $3mil. - then begin the drive.  It would be hard to get people to donate unless both the Council and Asbury Partners were alre

Re: [AsburyPark] Restoration of historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread Lighty
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Restoration of historic properties On 4/11/05 3:27 PM, "Tyler, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would donate money for the Casino.  In return we would have to get promises from Asbury Partners and the Council commensurate with the money donated.  The agreement would

[AsburyPark] Re: Restoration of historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread Tony Tedesco
As long as there are condtions like Mark has listed I would be willing. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would donate money for the Casino. In return we would have to get > promises from Asbury Partners and the Council commensurate with the mone

RE: [AsburyPark] Restoration of historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread Tyler, Mark
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Restoration of historic properties I would donate money for the Casino.  In return we would have to get promises from Asbury Partners and the Council commensurate with the money donated.  The agreement would have to include completing the application to the National T

[AsburyPark] Restoration of historic properties

2005-04-11 Thread Lighty
> > "I have always said that restoration of the Casino is the key to > bringing the beachfront back to life. It is the gateway to Asbury > Park from all the communities south of us. Its condition presents not > only a physical barrier but a psycological one as well." > I agree with that statem

[AsburyPark] Re: In response to Mr. KayjayAP......

2005-04-11 Thread Tony Tedesco
Dan, Not to turn this into a love-fest, but I expected such a response (that's why i 'ducked' for cover). I was trying to creatively reinforce my point by using the stated fate of the Pryor Pavillion compared with the recent light shed on the actual status of the bandshell. My point being th

RE: [AsburyPark] Alright,,,OK....

2005-04-11 Thread Tyler, Mark
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Alright,,,OK You've complained that Asbury park's politics are "always a mess." The solution to politics being a mess is to do the hard work of sifting through the issues and address each issue individually.  For example, you say below that there are continuos que

[AsburyPark] Re: Alright,,,OK....

2005-04-11 Thread Tony Tedesco
Ice, For the record, the points that caused me to respond were the fact that on one hand you are taking KJ to task, citing due process, for espousing a view concerning Hamilton that is shared by many others (msg # 8416), yet in the previous msg (#8415)you say the following about Kate: * O

[AsburyPark] Re: In response to Mr. KayjayAP......

2005-04-11 Thread dfsavgny
For a moment I thought everyone had left town. Glad to see folks jump in when its called for. Iceman, while I can appreciate your skepticism of what's going on, I must also add that your personal attack on Mellina is off base. Having just been the focus of such an attack from TD, I must defen

[AsburyPark] Alright,,,OK....

2005-04-11 Thread theiceman666911
Let me say this however. MELLINA IS A PUBLIC FIGURE. I do not believe Asbury Parkers ask enough questions. Mellina mysteriously dissappears and then returns. She leaves the council one minute and then the next wants to return. There is something odd here Mr. Tony. Come on now! AND THERE ARE C

[AsburyPark] Re: In response to Mr. KayjayAP......

2005-04-11 Thread Tony Tedesco
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "theiceman666911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First Mr. K. please learn to spell and write > Accept for some dirt piles the waterfront is a big > promisenothing more. I am assuming you meant to say 'Except' instead of 'Accept', but that's no

Re: [AsburyPark] In response to Mr. KayjayAP......

2005-04-11 Thread Corey Maccaro
Thank you! I thought I was the only one who cared that this guy is illiterate! Corey Maccaro   "Jersey City: You'll Wish You Were In Newark." "Newark: You'll Wish You Were In Jersey City."

RE: [AsburyPark] Can someone please explain to me the relationshi p between

2005-04-11 Thread Tyler, Mark
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Can someone please explain to me the relationship between Kate Mellina confronted this rumour some time ago.  If you read back articles on asbury.net you will find her discussion.   -Original Message- From: Lighty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, Apr

[AsburyPark] The Naked Readings This Sunday

2005-04-11 Thread Jesse Taylor
In Honor of National Poetry Month!   SpiralBridge presents…   The Naked Readings Sunday, April 17th 7-10pm @ Makeready’s Gallery 214 Artspace 214 Glenridge Avenue Montclair, NJ   Come express yourself on the most poetically famous Open Mic. in Northern NJ!   Open Mic., Fea

Re: [AsburyPark] Can someone please explain to me the relationship between

2005-04-11 Thread mwbnj
I find it very interesting how people on this list, 99.9% of the time don't sign their real name to post like the one below. They just shoot in their comments into space without backing them up with their real name! I for one, just delete them. Michael W. Brim 321 Sunset Avenue, Unit 5F Asbury

Re: [AsburyPark] Can someone please explain to me the relationship between

2005-04-11 Thread Lighty
On 4/11/05 11:26 AM, "theiceman666911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Kate Mellina and Terry Weldon. Now Weldon is a convicted extortionist > and blackmailer and Mellina continues to defend him. Why? Is this a > school girl crush of something? One could certainly deduce there was > a > sexua

[AsburyPark] In response to Mr. KayjayAP......

2005-04-11 Thread theiceman666911
First Mr. K. please learn to spell and write. I am new in town...eight monthsbut I intend to chime in. What are you talking about? I am told by Asbury Park veterans the west side has not changed in 20 years. Any change on the east side has been brought about by private homeowners and deve

[AsburyPark] Can someone please explain to me the relationship between

2005-04-11 Thread theiceman666911
Kate Mellina and Terry Weldon. Now Weldon is a convicted extortionist and blackmailer and Mellina continues to defend him. Why? Is this a school girl crush of something? One could certainly deduce there was a sexually/lover relationship between the two. But what else? Was Mellina involved in

[AsburyPark] Re: OPEN HOUSE TODAY SUNDAY 4/10 1-3

2005-04-11 Thread Heather
Thanks Gary. I came to your yard sale on Saturday and looked around but didn't buy anything. I hope the open house went well. The house is really nice, good luck. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "gary900768" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1318 LOCUST DRIVE. (END OF 5TH AVE) > SUNDAY 4/10