[AsburyPark] Re: THE STONE PONY -- long-term struggle

2005-08-14 Thread Skip Bernstein
…assumption we were working under …is a Stone Pony that loses money. Someone still has to own it. Unless they are independantly wealthy and can absorb the loss to keep it open for sentimental reasons, it makes no sense for that owner to keep it. Business is business. Tillie is dead because no

[AsburyPark] The Palace

2005-08-14 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Business is business. Tillie is dead because no one could re-coup a $16 million investment with pinball machine quarters as a return. Economics rule (as it should). Tillie (The Palace) is dead because of not

[AsburyPark] Re: The Palace -- a surplus of dumbness

2005-08-14 Thread Skip Bernstein
Larry did not comprehend that having a private investment …of several million dollars completed next to property that he owns is a 'good thing' and would increase that adjacent property's value. His only concern was that he get $2.5 million or nothing. Both Larry and the City got exactly that,

[AsburyPark] the pony doesn't matter

2005-08-14 Thread traderdube
Couldn't agree more, the pony in it's current state doesn't matter. Same as convention hall, the paramount, the southside structures that includes the casino, power plant and carousel matter even less. The Hojo's building and the pryor ampi-theater...don't matter. fast lane, baronet, bowling

[AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter

2005-08-14 Thread bluebishop82
T-Dube, Your post below, more accurately the points you make, is the only thing wrong with AP. That dead-hand control, refuse to look forward, no progress, visionless, over-romanticized, Nostalgia-Nazi view that we have to return to a fictionalized past that never was instead of moving to a

[AsburyPark] Re: The Palace -- a surplus of dumbness

2005-08-14 Thread Skip Bernstein
Skip you did it agian: Your post is filled with personal insults. Kettle calling the pot black? What are we to make of …dead-hand control, refuse to look forward, no progress, visionless, over-romanticized, Nostalgia-Nazi [and] Springsteen fanatics posing as people who pretend to know the rest

[AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter

2005-08-14 Thread jerseyjohn99
Sorry BB, you lose. Under the international messageboard agreement created in 1990 known as Godwin's Law, whenever someone brings up Hitler or Nazis in an argument unrelated to WWII, the thread is over, and the person who caused the Violator to invoke Godwin's Law is declared the winner.

[AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter -- Godwin's Law

2005-08-14 Thread Skip Bernstein
Would Godwin's Law still apply if Tommy were in fact a Nazi? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry BB, you lose. Under the international messageboard agreement created in 1990 known as Godwin's Law, whenever someone brings up Hitler or Nazis in an

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter

2005-08-14 Thread David J. Mieras
Nice work JJ99! Some people just don't know when to shut up, even after they are warned how offensive their crude speak might be to others. You'd think otherwise based on their station and education. - Original Message - From: jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

[AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter

2005-08-14 Thread Skip Bernstein
Hey guys, walk softly; Tommy has a low threshold for criticism. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, David J. Mieras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice work JJ99! Some people just don't know when to shut up, even after they are warned how offensive their crude speak might be to others. You'd think

[AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter

2005-08-14 Thread bluebishop82
Nostalgia-Nazi, like a feminazi, is not a Nazi as some of you are thinking of the term. My apologies to anyone who believed to the contrary and was offended. Dead Hand Control for Skip's info, is a legal term, long recognized in jurisprudence dating back to common law that pre-dates the USA.

[AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter see why it is insulting.

2005-08-14 Thread Skip Bernstein
`Nostalgia-Nazi… is not a Nazi Dead Hand Control …is a legal term, in reference to people setting up conditions that will govern others long after they are gone.' Nazis and other things that go bump in the night; wouldn't Dead Hand Control be the sort of legislation your fearless leader,

[AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter see why it is insulting.

2005-08-14 Thread bluebishop82
wouldn't Dead Hand Control be the sort of legislation your fearless leader, commander in chief George Bush proposes as law of the land, after the republicans are thrown out of office? The usual example of Dead Hand Control is a deed restriction, like Bradley writing into many deeds that if