Re: [AsburyPark] City Officials needs your Guidance

2006-02-17 Thread Joe D'Andrea
Jerry... you have dirt on your face. At 11:41 PM -0500 2/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I stopped by AP City Hall today after what was talked about last night at the council meeting. 1. Why would the city officials even consider selling of some of it's park land. Does the state have any safe

[AsburyPark] Re: City Officials needs your Guidance

2006-02-17 Thread bluebishop82
Apoojo is right Jerry. We have a representative form of Democracy in America, not a pure form. It's worked pretty well for 225 years. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, gtscarano212@ wrote: I stopped by AP City Hall today

[AsburyPark] Re: City Officials needs your Guidance

2006-02-17 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apoojo is right Jerry. We have a representative form of Democracy in America, not a pure form. It's worked pretty well for 225 years. I agree with Tommy and the others that we cannot vote on every issue, that would

[AsburyPark] Re: City Officials needs your Guidance

2006-02-17 Thread Skip Bernstein
The issue of having the negotiations behind closed doors is Ludicrous. There is no rational or strategic reason for closing the negotiations. We have a right to know what is going on. The signal is loud and clear that it is the governing body's city and not ours. While their attitude towards the

[AsburyPark] Re: City Officials needs your Guidance

2006-02-17 Thread bluebishop82
I understand everyone's desire for the negotiations to be in public, and there is a part of the me that would love to watch too. There is another side of the argument here. The nature of negotiations are such that it will lend itself to easy misinterpretation by someone watching, most notably

[AsburyPark] SUV's

2006-02-17 Thread bluebishop82
Anyone remember the old Cushman's the cops used to ride in? The seemed pretty economical. So is a motorcycle and we used to have that too. I know the argument is that they can't handle a high speed chase, but how many of those do we really have? They are a mighty small percentage compared

[AsburyPark] Re: SUV's

2006-02-17 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There good for giving out tickets, for the the boardwalk and downtown DPW crew but not much more. Jimmy Cooke used to drive one it used to lean to the left. Anyone remember the old Cushman's the cops used to ride in?

[AsburyPark] Re: SUV's

2006-02-17 Thread oakdorf
I think everyone's point is someone should be a bit mindful of the spending - not just rubber stamping everything. A few grand/month adds up to quite a few kickballs. What piece of land on Memorial are you talking about- the NJ transit piece? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group

[AsburyPark] Re: City Officials needs your Guidance

2006-02-17 Thread oakdorf
I think you forget, negotiations ended when the deal was signed by both parties, thus creating a valid contract. As you say, was blessed by christie. If no subdevlopers what to work with you, as the MASTER developer, then they (Partners) need to pick up the phone and start their own

[AsburyPark] Re: City Officials needs your Guidance

2006-02-17 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand everyone's desire for the negotiations to be in public, and there is a part of the me that would love to watch too. If not watch it then at least have reports of what has been proposed by city and the

[AsburyPark] Re: City Officials needs your Guidance

2006-02-17 Thread Skip Bernstein
Negotiations are a psychological chess match. You don't just walk in and lay what you want on the table. Nobody accepts a first offer. You practically hide what you want and ask for a great deal more and a great deal other than what you want. You let the adversary peel off a bunch of

[AsburyPark] Friday NJEDA Update

2006-02-17 Thread jerseykev
Things you should be aware of... STATEWIDE MEETING PLANNED. Just a reminder that Tomorrow those interested in fighting against eminent domain for private gain (EDA - Eminent Domain Abuse) are encourage to attend a meeting of like minded people at Princeton University. For info and

[AsburyPark] Re: City Officials needs your Guidance

2006-02-17 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody accepts a first offer. There are no universals; a seller who knows the value of his property, is motivated to sell and/or understands clearly and accepts the rational of an offer will often accept a first

[AsburyPark] Re: City Officials needs your Guidance - a no-brainer

2006-02-17 Thread Skip Bernstein
I agree with you're post here, when you have two parties trying to get to the same end, ie the property owner wants to sell and the buyer wants to buy. They have the same goal, the only issue is price. Those are the easy ones. I think that parts of the Beachfront negotiations, unfortunately,

[AsburyPark] Re: mortgage /or tax foreclosed property

2006-02-17 Thread jerseyjohn99
BB, I'm confused. Let's say a farmer in Marlboro wants to monetize his apple orchard to cover his estate taxes for his children. How does selling it to a developer to build 5,000 sq ft McMansions benefit a younger family trying to buy their first home? One of my childhood friends is a

[AsburyPark] Re: mortgage /or tax foreclosed property

2006-02-17 Thread oakdorf
funny thing about age restricted communities - they really do not meet COAH guidelines. They are no longer affordable at over 300k per. It's an avenue for developers to squeeze a few more units in per acre and/or build cheaper. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go

[AsburyPark] Re: City Officials needs your Guidance

2006-02-17 Thread oakdorf
Interesting negotiation today that we are involved in. A $13m deal. A national developer we approached to flip a property to. The seller, a foreign investor, the buyer for the developer, by coincindence, from the same country, same last name. Buyer made offer. Seller politely laughed. I said

[AsburyPark] Re: mortgage /or tax foreclosed property

2006-02-17 Thread Skip Bernstein
I've been juxtaposing the issue of affordable homes, particularly for young families, against the issue of open space legislation. Right now open space initiatives have no natural predator. Now land is finite, so when you take so much off the market, you drive up the price of what is left. Right