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2008-11-30 Thread Jack Pitzer
Perhaps a Facebook group could help? If change is a possibility, I think the city would need to see how many people actually care about this. A few of us won't make a difference, but a few hundred might. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

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2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps a Facebook group could help? If change is a possibility, I think the city would need to see how many people actually care about this. A few of us won't make a difference, but a few hundred might.

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2008-11-24 Thread New Beetoap
I have to agree with that - I just went through another 50 or so posts with no meat on them. What is it with the members of this group - love to divert things away from the issues you all face - and they are serious from what I can tell. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL

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2008-11-24 Thread justifiedright
Newbie you don't think the relationship between gay and straight people in Asbury Park is an important topic with meat on it? They just held a symposium on the subject at Monmouth College which was covered in the Press. Not important for us though? Well excuse me for discussing an issue you

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2008-11-24 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Newbie you don't think the relationship between gay and straight people in Asbury Park is an important topic with meat on it? They just held a symposium on the subject at Monmouth College which was covered in the

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2008-11-21 Thread justifiedright
The topic of gays and straights accomodating one another is an Asbury Park topic, because The List excludes stright people. Naturally a national issue along the same lines is going to spark a little debate about how Asbury Parkers handles the same issue locally. It may not be an issue that

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2008-11-21 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The topic of gays and straights accomodating one another is an Asbury Park topic, because The List excludes stright people. I bought up the topic: 1. since ap is gay friendly 2. since there are intelligent people on

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2008-11-21 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: READ the link to the Pennslvania PERS and their decision to invest $125m in the MM Retail Enhancement Fund. My read is that it was a blind investment and if not used , does it have to be returned? OK, There. AP

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2008-11-21 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: didn't say it HAD to be returned, but IS there that possibility? This is the Penn Retirement Systems summary of their decision to invest in the MM Retail Enhancement Fund.

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2008-11-21 Thread dsher4
Guys, Keep in mind that 18% IRR is on a levered basis. The unlevered return is less than that. Also putting up 16% of the capital from insiders is a healthy chunk of money. This does not seem like an outrageous set of parameters. Dan S --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL

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2008-11-21 Thread dsher4
Also, BlackRock Realty and the Harvard Endowment are two of the most sophisticated alternative investment investors in the world. The fact that they are partnered with these types of people is a plus for sure because Harvard does tremendous due diligence. --- In

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2008-11-21 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, BlackRock Realty and the Harvard Endowment are two of the most sophisticated alternative investment investors in the world. And Blackrock was the darling of the street. But like the rest of the now public co's (and

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2008-11-21 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, Keep in mind that 18% IRR is on a levered basis. The unlevered return is less than that. Also putting up 16% of the capital from insiders is a healthy chunk of money. This does not seem like an outrageous set

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2008-11-21 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: Also, BlackRock Realty and the Harvard Endowment are two of the most sophisticated alternative investment investors in the world. And Blackrock was the darling

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2008-11-21 Thread dsher4
This is the quote from the piece The Fund will see 350 million of equity capital commitments and target a gross internal rate of return of 18% with leverage representing n more than 70% of total portfolio cost. So leverage was used. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL

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2008-11-21 Thread dsher4
Be careful using stock prices to talk about the strenght or lack thereoff of a company. In a bear market most stocks get hit very hard. Cisco is one of the worlds most dominant companies, has a huge cash balance and nothing to do with CDO's mortgages etc, and has corrected from 34 to 14.

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2008-11-21 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the quote from the piece The Fund will see 350 million of equity capital commitments and target a gross internal rate of return of 18% with leverage representing n more than 70% of total portfolio cost. So leverage

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2008-11-21 Thread dsher4
I guess the real question for all of us is whether they have further capital to put to work and if the AP investment was done by MM for MM or through one of their other investment vehicles. Another thought, perhaps Gary was saying that MM put up the 60 million in cash for the fund using no

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2008-11-21 Thread wernerapnj
I appreciate the high finance experience of those discussing the MM funding sources. However, could someone put it in more locally relevant terms? Is it possible to determine in reality how much MM or APartners for that matter has invested in Asbury Park? Also what has been the net change in

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2008-11-21 Thread oakdorf
--- so what do we have a BUY on CSCO and BLK for long term? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online

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2008-11-21 Thread dsher4
We own CSCO not BLK and i was more just making a point --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- so what do we have a BUY on CSCO and BLK for long term? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

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2008-11-21 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I appreciate the high finance experience of those discussing the MM funding sources. However, could someone put it in more locally relevant terms? Is it possible to determine in reality how much MM or APartners for