[AsburyPark] Re: restaurant row, entertainment district, business district vs condos

2007-12-15 Thread 2fine4u
I would love to see a Hard Rock, Asbury Park and a House of Blues, Asbury Park! Why? Every damned City I visit, that's where I either eat or go for the music! Atlantic City has BOTH! I've visited Hard Rock, Montreal, AC and N.O., ate last month in the HOB, AC! Music was so (volume), LOUD, but

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2007-12-12 Thread oakdorf
> > Gimme a place in town with daily specials like meatloaf -- casual enuf so > that I can stir the peas into my mashed potatoes with gravy. > > Clancy's sucks, still have to drive to the real joint, Kelly's. > how much more simple can you get then Frank's? Yahoo! Groups Links <*>

[AsburyPark] Re: restaurant row, entertainment district, business district vs condos

2007-12-12 Thread oakdorf
> places like the House of Blues etc, cool retro themed hotels, great restaurants and the like > would put this city back on the map. I'm sure you've seen more then me...but I look to use the entertainment zone Seminole Hardrock in Hollywood Fl as an example. Cookman Ave to the Casino is a per

[AsburyPark] Re: restaurant row, entertainment district, business district vs condos

2007-12-12 Thread Jack Pitzer
AP also has a worldwide connection with the music biz. More people know about AP because of Bruce then anything else. Besides the boardwalk, it's our number one commodity, and at the same time the least realized commodity. Turning the entire redevelopment zone into an adult oriented entertainment

[AsburyPark] Re: restaurant row, entertainment district, business district vs condos

2007-12-12 Thread oakdorf
--- Point Pleasant would Werner's perfect example of what works - well almost. Point is PRIVATELY owned - not the entire boardwalk, but various parcels along the BW. Point also had a great fire at end of the season some years back. They got the aquarium as little as it. The same time period, AP

[AsburyPark] Re: restaurant row, entertainment district, business district vs condos

2007-12-12 Thread Jack Pitzer
Considering the fact that in Pt. Pleasant, where the boardwalk is packed every single day during the summer, and people are paying way too much money for food, parking and everything else, I guess you are right. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In

[AsburyPark] Re: restaurant row, entertainment district, business district vs condos

2007-12-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Tax liquor sales on the Boardwalk. 2% sales tax on booze. Will it > stop anyone from buying. > No. Sunshine, sand and water. What more do you need? What's the problem? Partners. If you just build the stuff for peop

[AsburyPark] Re: restaurant row, entertainment district, business district vs condos

2007-12-12 Thread oakdorf
> > Many shore communities have switched to full residential uses. The > only problem with that model is that the only source of revenue > becomes residential real estate taxes. You can figure out the rest by > yourself. > What Dan is saying is look who's left to pay all the salaries of runnin

[AsburyPark] Re: restaurant row, entertainment district, business district vs condos

2007-12-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dan can make sense of where I'm going. > > TAX 'em. > My second recommendation (already given) to the City after getting a new redevelopment attorney. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to

[AsburyPark] Re: restaurant row, entertainment district, business district vs condos

2007-12-12 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, but aren't you walking a fine line there when it comes to taxes? > Nope. They have to carry their fair share. There is a fine line. How about an entertainment tax - like $1.00 per ticket at each venue. Do you e

[AsburyPark] Re: restaurant row, entertainment district, business district vs condos

2007-12-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm sure Werner can help me out with this one but isn't that a lot > closer to the historical plans of a beach/tourist town? yes > So what is the lure with all housing? Does it really bring in a ton of > tax revenue -

[AsburyPark] Re: restaurant row, entertainment district, business district vs condos

2007-12-12 Thread Jack Pitzer
Yeah, but aren't you walking a fine line there when it comes to taxes? Remember the exodus of people out of NJ because of the cost of living here? Isn't it a better idea to have a large scale industry, like entertainment which has tons of employees and patrons coming to spend money and pay taxes

[AsburyPark] Re: restaurant row, entertainment district, business district vs condos

2007-12-12 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Because it sure seems like the > places that have been built aren't exactly having people line up around > the corner to live there. > They did line up at Wesley and N. Beach - sort of. Then they didn't know how to build o