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2019-09-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:38:07 -0400, Dan Greiner wrote: Same here. Before I worked for Amdahl, I know one guy who referred to it as "Prinkiples". >For the nearly 30 years that Amdahl competed for IBM's mainframe turf, many >within Amdahl referred to the Principles of Operation using the proper

Re: Poll

2019-09-17 Thread Ward Able, Grant
I have always used POPS (or Pops) & always wondered why it is Principles of Operations, so why the S at the end, but never been to bothered about it. Regards - Grant. In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Worry more about your character than your

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2019-09-17 Thread M. Ray Mullins
I've always referred to it by option 2. On 2019-09-16 12:50, Phil Smith III wrote: Principles of Operation-how do you refer to it? (NOT including case-let's not make this any more complicated than it is already!) 1) PofOp 2) POP 3) POO 4) Pops 5) other? Just curio

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2019-09-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
No, option 2 is MFT . -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List on behalf of M. Ray Mullins Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 12:18 PM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Poll I've always

Re: Poll

2019-09-17 Thread M. Ray Mullins
psIII missed a chance when setting the options for this poll. On 2019-09-16 15:45, Tony Thigpen wrote: Pop, never Poo or poop, as both sound like doing #2. Tony Thigpen Phil Smith III wrote on 9/16/19 3:50 PM: Principles of Operation-how do you refer to it? (NOT including case-let's not make

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2019-09-17 Thread Richard Kuebbing
As a short-timer ( I will retire soon w/58 yrs in IT and 53 yrs on 360) I have been quiet on the lists. But as a certified curmudgeon ... Poo or poop, because both sound like doing #2 Over the yrs I have seen/heard/... so much #2 passed off as work product ... (e.g. the original design of floa

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2019-09-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
Shirley you mean the 2321, a machine that only a mother could love. Or the early iterations of CROS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List on behalf of Richard Kuebbing Sent: Tuesday, September 17

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2019-09-17 Thread Richard Kuebbing
Was the 2321 the noodle reader? Ours never worked - I think we traded it in for several extra 2301s. The only problem w/2301 was it was twice as fast as LCS and it therefore could not perform i/o w/LCS. SQA on 2301 was almost as good as LSQA. When the 360/91 arrived, that package that later b

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2019-09-17 Thread Olle . Westergard
Intresting, I’ve learned it’s called POP. I teach assembler programming and now I have to think about telling the students that there are several different thoughts about which abbreviation is the right one. Olle Westergård, Core Systems SEB > 17 sep. 2019 kl. 05:02 skrev Mike Hochee : > >

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2019-09-17 Thread Dan Greiner
Yes, the 2321 was the noodle picker. See https://www.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_2321.html for a trip down memory lane. Robert Rannie is now professor emeritus at Northern Illinois University. If only this site supported attachments, I have few pix of Rob waving the paddle at

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2019-09-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
'There are nine and sixty ways of constructing tribal lays, And every single one of them is right!' RK -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List on behalf of olle.westerg...@seb.se Sent: Tuesda

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2019-09-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
How do you put SQA on a drum? I might believe SYS1.SYSJOBQE, although the 2301 s a bit small for that. I can't recall Robert Rannie's first name or his Paddle Temporary Fix.. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

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2019-09-17 Thread Phil Smith III
And as some of you will have guessed: I grew up calling it PofOp, which seems to put me in the vanishing minority! From: Phil Smith III [mailto:li...@akphs.com] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 3:50 PM To: 'IBM Mainframe Assembler List' Subject: Poll Principles of Operation-how do you re

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2019-09-17 Thread Dave Wade
I never remember it been called anything other than the POP ... e.g. http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse.cgi?fn=360POP&ft=MEMO&args=pop#hit but here both POP and POPs are used... http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse.cgi?fn=3090&ft=MEMO&args=pops#hit Dave > -Original Message- > Fr

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2019-09-17 Thread Tony Thigpen
I can see it now: "Hi everyone, my name is Ollie and I have been hired to teach you all about POO." Tony Thigpen olle.westerg...@seb.se wrote on 9/17/19 1:46 PM: Intresting, I’ve learned it’s called POP. I teach assembler programming and now I have to think about telling the students that