Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-18 Thread Jonathan Scott
Robert Ngan writes: > Maybe what we need is a new HARDWARE table type that groups by instruction > availability instead on mnemonic introduction (I was going to suggest > MACHINE but that already used as a synonym for OPTABLE). The reason that HLASM does not retrofit new mnemonics to old tables is

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-17 Thread Ngan, Robert (DXC Luxoft)
ready used as a synonym for OPTABLE). Robert Ngan DXC Luxoft -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List On Behalf Of Emir Garza Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 10:34 To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Instructions by Machine [Some people who received this message

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-15 Thread Charles Mills
ge of compiled languages as opposed to HLASM: no need to re-code, just change the ARCH() option and re-build. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Hammack Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 8:28 AM To: ASSEMBLE

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-15 Thread Mark Hammack
We're actually using OPTABLE(Z12). Honestly, I'd rather the assembler fail than have a customer get some kind of program exception because they didn't have the right hardware (or feature). I can justify Z12 easily so that's why we have it set in the configuration. *Mark* On Wed, May 15, 2024

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-15 Thread Emir Garza
PS. Sorry, forgot to say. I had to install PTF PH39324 to get LFI recognized with OPTABLE(ZSA), which, from your post, seems to be what you're using (apologies for the noise if I misread it): https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/apar/PH39324

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-15 Thread Emir Garza
Mark, You may find that the LFI instruction is present on the machine. (I found it was present on our old EC12.) LFI is an extended opcode for IILF. If you use IILF, it will probably work. Regards, Emir Garza

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-15 Thread Mark Hammack
Just my 2 cents but this makes sense. A few years ago, my company (actually lead developer at the time and I) decided that we would "standardize" on supported versions of IBM operating systems. z/SO 2.2 had just gone 'end of life' and (per Peter's reference) required z10 hardware so that became o

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-15 Thread Farley, Peter
some overlap in the different sets represented (HW vs SW). Thank you. Peter From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 10:28 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Instructions by Machine Mike Shaw wrote This _gold_ for

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-15 Thread Peter Relson
Mike Shaw wrote This _gold_ for ISVs writing code that must execute on many different z models. Thanks to Dan and Yves for all the work. For Dan's, I'd suggest (somehow) adding a "key" to the 2-character facility names (I know most of them, but many might not, so it could be helpful to have

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-13 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/12/2024 11:02 PM, Yves Colliard wrote: Dear Dan, many thanks. I did a comparable excel - if you're interested take a look, could also be an altenative. https://magentacloud.de/s/7wJAZmS65DFY2zy Best regards Yves Colliard Nice work! -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-13 Thread Yves Colliard
Hello Martin, very happy that you like it! ... a little bit rexx ... ;-) a good way for me to get an overview and find the right instruction. Also very usefull during teaching Best regards Yves

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-13 Thread Martin Trübner
Yves, wouw, that was certainly a lot of work. Thank you for it Martin PS: Now I understand why the green card is no longer a card - but a booklet ;-)

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-12 Thread Yves Colliard
Dear Dan, many thanks. I did a comparable excel - if you're interested take a look, could also be an altenative. https://magentacloud.de/s/7wJAZmS65DFY2zy Best regards Yves Colliard

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-12 Thread Mike Shaw
This _gold_ for ISVs writing code that must execute on many different z models. Thank you Dan! Mike Shaw MVS/QuickRef Support Group Chicago-Soft, Ltd. On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 4:07 PM Dan Greiner wrote: > Back when I was a full-time IBMer, I had a spreadsheet with all > z/Architecture instruct

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-11 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Truly a labor of love, thanks Dan ! Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org +1-919-656-0564 PGP Key: 0x90ECB270 Facebook LinkedIn Twitter “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive." — Hogstrom > On

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-11 Thread Martin Trübner
Dan , thank you! (I will use it to get my debugger up to date) Martin On 11.05.24 22:27, Tony Thigpen wrote: Big **THANKS** Tony Thigpen Dan Greiner wrote on 5/11/24 4:06 PM: Back when I was a full-time IBMer, I had a spreadsheet with all z/Architecture instructions sorted by the machine

Re: Instructions by Machine

2024-05-11 Thread Tony Thigpen
Big **THANKS** Tony Thigpen Dan Greiner wrote on 5/11/24 4:06 PM: Back when I was a full-time IBMer, I had a spreadsheet with all z/Architecture instructions sorted by the machine in which they were introduced. Unfortunately, this included IBM-confidential instructions, and I was not able to

Instructions by Machine

2024-05-11 Thread Dan Greiner
Back when I was a full-time IBMer, I had a spreadsheet with all z/Architecture instructions sorted by the machine in which they were introduced. Unfortunately, this included IBM-confidential instructions, and I was not able to take it with me when I retired. I recently spent a few hours massagi