making obvious comparisons and make more money.
Thank you, IBM. No, really. -- Copy of an Apple Computer ad from
about 1982
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/1767?comment_start=31
and check the first comment -- scans of that ad are miserably difficult
to come by.
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would have
gotten in response, anyway.
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, I certainly wouldnt hold my breath for you to be an honest
person.
You sound amazingly like my girlfriend's 5-year-old, and I'm pretty
tired of listening to you.
plonk
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as
overhead. Andrew explained it quite well, I thought.
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for a wholesaler client
is one of those 3com certified tech, so yes, I know what they put them
through.
How do you think his employers pay his salary, pray tell?
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, they
still would be in the money.
Anyways, all your points are moot. Period.
I encourage my competitors to behave as if that's true, as Randy Bush
says on NANOG.
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crow.
I like mine fried, but I don't have to eat it too often, and this is
certainly not one of those times.
My grilf had surgery last Thursday, and I've been playing Mr Mom all
week.
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also factually correct. They can't, I don't think, control that
usage either, though IANAL.
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whether v2 does, at the moment.
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On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 06:05:51PM +0200, Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 10:31 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 07:58:44AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
I will give Jay the benefit of the doubt, but he is usually very quick
to reply these kinds
Asterisk people, tend to
forget how high the markup is on packaged telephony gear -- and more to
the point, *why* it's that high.
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On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 12:01:08PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:02 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
I would assume that's retail, yes.
Computer people, and in my experience even Asterisk people, tend to
forget how high the markup is on packaged telephony gear
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 02:45:16PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
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On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 12:01:08PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
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I would assume that's retail, yes
is mega*bit*, an
8:1 difference.
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character hard wrapped lines, blank lines between paragraphs, no HTML,
and a clean signature.
I am not, as the saying goes, making this up.
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:
http://expita.com/nomime.html
Hell, even Outlook Web Access with Exchange 5.5 wraps replies to 78
columns. I was pleasantly surprised to find out. Still cant mark
quotes properly.
You came up out of Fidonet, didn't you? :-)
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be
a Pretty Neat Way to render it, randomly, to be a good thing, myself.
:wq
Hee.
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don't know whether to trust the stuff he said about things I *don't*
know anything about.
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On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 02:35:03PM -0400, SIP wrote:
Correct. And so are germane rhetorical devices employed in the
discussion thereof.
Nonsense. Similes are allowed, but metaphors are right out.
Could we have an argument about this, please?
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On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 01:25:49AM -0400, Alex Balashov wrote:
Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 08:26:35PM -0400, Alex Balashov wrote:
There is a whole host of data dumped into internal CDRs accessible via
switch craft interfaces and softswitch / big-iron EMSs that admits
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:15:37PM -0700, Nitzan Kon wrote:
Third that. We don't need more regulation on VoIP - on the contrary.
Not trying to put any there.
But you can inject fake ANI into my SS7 network when you pry the console
cable from my cold, dead fingers.
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to point somewhere valid -- even
if it's the edge provider itself as proxy for the end sub.
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less *read* all 14 volumes and 20,000-odd pages of
it)... and there's a *reason* why the major IXCs restrict direct access
to their SS7 routing control networks.
I fully expect there to be a shakeout; I'm a bit surprised it hasn't
happened already...
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On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 09:57:08PM +0200, Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 15:43 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
When calls are dumped into the PSTN, they *have* to have valid ANI; too
much of the semantics of the entire remainder of the PSTN depends
.
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 16:09 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:56:06AM -0400, Peter Beckman wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2008, Steve Totaro wrote:
However, there should be a law against bogus ANI.
So as a VoIP provider, what exactly is the ANI I should set? A phone
in that singular point, it
is case in point. My apologies for mistyping a common phrase.
Well, dammit, Bret... :-)
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On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:10:00PM +0200, Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 16:28 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
As I noted, I'm perfectly happy to let aggregators do it by contract;
the hammer that will fall on them is big enough that I don't think they
need to validate
spoofing CLID; please go back over the thread.
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to provide it to you by contract and hammer them if they screw it up...
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interconnection SS7 IMTs, and various other such things.
I knew someone would eventually show up who was 100% buzzword
compliant. :-)
So, Alex, *does* the ISUP element dictionary separate BTN, ANI, and
CLID?
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understand it.
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does.
I'm pretty sure the FCC puts their foot down on this point, though I
can't cite chapter and verse.
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carrier and circuit type?
Steve? You got two calls, purportedly from the same circuit, with
different (hopefully invalid) ANIs, and the same CNID as one another?
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On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 12:59:42PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 08:18:02AM -0700, Miles Scruggs wrote:
This belief is limited to your experience with PRIs. When you obtain
SIP termination
going to go find it.
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, though random Murricans
probably would not be.
There *is* no legitimate reason for spoofing ANI from the subscriber
level which does not break the semantics assumed of ANI.
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On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 01:03:29PM -0400, Charles Vance wrote:
Actually there is no federal law as yet.
I didn't say federal law. I believe that it's somewhere in FCC part
68 or whatever has replaced that these days...
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.
This was Nextel, but the same principles likely apply.
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/11 jokes...
on 9/12. It has to be *funny*, is the thing.
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heard that you should do this by calling the 9-1-1 line
directly, and that you should call the PSAP on a toll line (which, I
guess, you should just know) to confirm the ALI.
How do those calls go when you do them, Steve?
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, on a businessperson, on a
business list.. Different thing *entirely*).
The dead guy, and his family, *did not*. And are not conducting business.
It's just not cricket.
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person as an advertising
point. Yeah, it's a bit tacky. We'll be sure to forward the message
and your home address to the family of the decedent.
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of it, can I have the bug? :-)
Seriously; why don't you like it anymore?
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in and take a look.
Say hi to Matt. :-)
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and Astricon, it
would appear that it's a sufficiently high-level connection that if
Pulver folded, it might jeopardize Astricon -- people clearly *think*
there's a connection, and that's really enough, no?
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speaker) to
be in a position to know, but the possibility exists that I might have
misunderstood him.
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who previously produced Astricon, but Digium is
not a show producer so they made some kind of deal with Pulvermedia
to produce the show.
This comports with the story as it was told to me, point for point.
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that they could then themselves dual-license
it commercially.
Is that the situation that troubles you?
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clearly don't want to discuss it, so you go right
along, and I won't ask anymore.
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over it, its a personal choice I dont have to
like the same things you do, that is what makes us unique humans.
plonk
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On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 01:50:04AM +0200, Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 19:38 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
where you continued to decline to answer in favor of handwaving.
Ok, it was about my opinion, why do you feel that you can demand an
explanation of my
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 08:22:58PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
Look you two, you are both very valuable members of this community.
Well, I'm flattered, but you may give me too much credit. Nonetheless,
Bret's in my kill file, and I'm done with it.
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as hijacking or thread-jacking
and you should endeavour to avoid it whenever you can.
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list here:
http://isotf.org/mailman/listinfo/outages
and a whole bunch of other interesting stuff on the google search I
found that in:
http://www.google.com/search?q=outages+mailing+list
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their public keys and whitelist
that way...
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missiles, right?' a
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On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 11:19:43PM -0500, Paul wrote:
- Sun will buy Digium and Asterisk will undergo a total rewrite in java.
Damnit, I'd just eaten breakfast.
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campaign?
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of ongoing conversations.
Or something. :-)
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On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 06:43:07PM -0400, Bill Michaelson wrote:
Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
The internet is, by and large a meritocracy. Each person is expected
to carry the water of their own reputation. Anyone dumb enough to a)
go around in public b) proving that they misunderstand
*is* a PRi, then the problem might be technical (ATT 5E's
typically won't let you forge CNID; DMS-100's will -- or at least
they did years ago; haven't looked lately), or administrative. If the
latter, I'm not sure whom you'd beg to, but since it's Verizontal, good
luck.
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, for some reason, that
BCCing the list with his ignorant, illiterate screed to a vendor would
help either himself or the list in some way.
That's funny to me, too.
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the territory
that badly deserves ridicule, and on the net, they'll certainly get it.
I don't slap my knees, though.
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On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:07:25AM -0600, Seysan wrote:
The Reason I asked it here is that to implement a FAXing service like
rapidfax or e-fax.
You need to go investigate HylaFax for that; Asterisk is not your
prime solution.
Lee; where does he need to go look?
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would not be surprised to learn that
there's more to this than the algorithm story given by Skype Damage
Control.
It's not 100% clear from your message: you do realize that Skype is
inherently p2p, right?
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service servers that the
server depends on.
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On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 02:03:58AM -0400, Al Bochter wrote:
I install KSU's and if your client paid 5K installed for a *used* ATT
Meridian
Your client just got the big RIPP OFF.
With sets, installed? With a T-1 card?
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$5K, installed.
Any other questions? :-)
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, and ... well, what service level you're willing to
tolerate.
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100min:mo on the old Sprint#, and am open to other
strategies.
*I* have reason to believe they would, but others here tell me in no
uncertain terms that I'm wrong. Check the archives from a couple weeks
back...
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On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 02:49:40PM -0400, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 01:33:24PM -0400, Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
Is there any reason to believe that Vonage will stop me from porting
the old Sprint# out? I plan to keep my existing Vonage phone
-cycle batteries, and independent charger and inverter/rectifier boxes.
This can be an advantage, because it's easier to size the components
appropriately if they're individual items.
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On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 08:51:57AM +0200, Yair Hakak wrote:
whoosh...the sound of the sarcasm going over andy's head.
I believe Andy fell into the sar-chasm. Is English his primary language?
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On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 05:33:08PM -0400, Hunt, Bill wrote:
Seek help... SOON! (You might start by cracking open a history book).
And a dictionary. And Strunk, and White. :-)
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Vonage to Teliax without hassle; the DID was
initially assigned by Vonage.
Ok; I guess it's just their INWATS numbers then.
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of rational argument, and are calm and cool, and
the repubs appeal to emotion, fear, and (dare we say this) terror.
Not all of either side, certainly, but a statistically significant
majority.
Alas, demagoguery works better with the electorate than pedagogy.
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On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 06:01:36PM -0400, Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
Or in the country where people shoot each other because they can get
away with it. NYC was much less safe when we could easily buy handguns.
Kennesaw GA.
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in a Spider
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of that thing.
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?
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framebuffer, no video
hardware is used for that)
And, specifically, the real X server manhandles the PCI bus directly, which
might explain why it could cause bad interactions with a TDM card.
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On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:23:16PM -0400, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:
And like it or not politics and business have a very close relationship.
And, most importantly, of course, we *did* mark the thread OffTopic; if
your mailer won't let you kill threads, get one that will.
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major!
Math major, actually, I think.
But let's not
fight that battle over the definition of is, 'k?
Nice Bill Clinton reference. Good giggles this morning, guys.
I was feeling inspired.
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On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 12:06:43PM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
so i guess you been on the internet longer then the internet itself!
I was around, anc connected by UUCP transpported email, when the Great
IP Cutover happened, yes.
And clearly, I haven't learned to type (or proofread
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 12:18:23PM -0400, Tim Booth wrote:
maybe he invented it with al gore...
Yup; I had *just* as much hand in inventing the Internet as Al Gore.
:-)
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be using corporate addresses don't: some of the people who
participate on NANOG -- a network ops list -- use nondescript email
addresses to avoid people figuring out whom they work for and treating
them as unpaid tier-4 support.
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On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 10:13:50PM -0400, Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 20:53 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 12:18:23PM -0400, Tim Booth wrote:
maybe he invented it with al gore...
Yup; I had *just* as much hand in inventing the Internet as Al
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