RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVOIP - I win :)

2005-09-14 Thread Wiley Siler
LOL - Congrats! $30 down... Let's see... how much to go? W -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Milk Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 1:40 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject:

[Asterisk-Users] LiveVOIP - I win :)

2005-09-12 Thread Jay Milk
A few months ago, the friendly folks from liveVOIP went under. We had some discussion on how to limit our losses, and my recommendation was a chargeback, since "FTTP Services" -- their CC merchant -- wasn't affected by the bankruptcy, as far as we could tell. Today, I received this from my CC com

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio

2005-06-28 Thread Rich Adamson
Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich > Adamson > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:31 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio > > Wi

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread

2005-06-28 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 14:24 -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: > On Tuesday 28 June 2005 13:49, hank wrote: > > a man loose his mind? > > what was the archive posting on that one? I want to read that :) > > http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-April/098768.html > > The whole thread's

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread

2005-06-28 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 10:49:29AM -0700, hank wrote: > a man loose his mind? > what was the archive posting on that one? I want to read that :) Thanks for the kind, tactful and on-topic post. Also thank you for trimming irrelevant quoted text from your message. Shall we drop this? -- Tzaf

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread

2005-06-28 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Tuesday 28 June 2005 13:49, hank wrote: > a man loose his mind? > what was the archive posting on that one? I want to read that :) http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-April/098768.html The whole thread's kind of funny... He started off really calm and rational, offering to

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-28 Thread Walt Reed
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 10:59:31AM -0400, steve szmidt said: > On Monday 27 June 2005 20:04, Robert Webb wrote: > > > I agree with that fact the same questions get posted, but > > > that problem is compounded by the fact the archives are not > > > really searchable. If the were as lease some users

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread

2005-06-28 Thread hank
, 2005 6:44 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Kohlsmith Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:26 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveV

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-28 Thread steve szmidt
On Monday 27 June 2005 20:04, Robert Webb wrote: > > I agree with that fact the same questions get posted, but > > that problem is compounded by the fact the archives are not > > really searchable. If the were as lease some users would search. > > The archives need to be fully indexed. > > In a Goo

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread

2005-06-28 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Tuesday 28 June 2005 09:44, Michael Di Martino wrote: > Their would not be so many newbie questions if their was 1. A fully > indexed searchable archive list and 2. Good solid documentation. Alright, you've called my bluff. http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-users%40lists.digium.com/ Is tha

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio

2005-06-28 Thread Wiley Siler
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Adamson Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:31 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio Wiley, its about time to grow up and stop this personal BS. We all certainly understand

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread

2005-06-28 Thread Michael Di Martino
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Kohlsmith Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:26 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread On Monday 27 June 2005 15:46, steve szmidt

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Terry H. Gilsenan
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Milk > Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2005 2:55 PM > To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt > &g

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Jay Milk
Monday, June 27, 2005 3:44 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt > > > I'm not sure which is funnier... that someone would offer > something like that for sale on ebay, or that someone

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Scott Miller
rcial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt Date: 28/06/05 01:53 > > Matt - catch me on IRC (it's file). > > - Joshua Colp. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Riddell > Sent:

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio

2005-06-27 Thread Rich Adamson
Wiley, its about time to grow up and stop this personal BS. We all certainly understand your objective. From: Wiley Siler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:30:41 -0700 To: Asterisk Users M

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread

2005-06-27 Thread Darren Wiebe
h. W -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Di Martino Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 1:55 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread I agree with that fac

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread

2005-06-27 Thread steve szmidt
On Monday 27 June 2005 17:26, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: > On Monday 27 June 2005 15:46, steve szmidt wrote: > > One could probably argue effectively for an Asterisk-Basic list. Or an > > Asterisk-Advanced user list. Something that makes it easier to get > > started without being overwhelmed by 10,000

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread

2005-06-27 Thread Robert Webb
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Michael Di Martino > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 4:55 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt -

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread

2005-06-27 Thread Mike
Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread On Monday 27 June 2005 14:31, Michael Di Martino wrote: If this list spent at least half the time on helping other asterisk admins as it does on trivial things like LiveVoips bankruptcy it just might be a great list. As

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Wiley Siler
"Not really. This thread does not belong on this list. It is off topic and a waste of time for admins dealing w/ real system issues. Like I said sign up for the qmail list and you will see how a real user list operates." LMAO - OK, so those same admins dealing with "real" system issues are spen

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread John Millican
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt > > On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 14:31 -0400, Michael Di Martino wrote: > > If this list spent at least half the time on helping other asterisk > > admins as it does on t

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Wiley Siler
this list personally Cheers, Wiley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Webb Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 2:16 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt On Mon, 2

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread

2005-06-27 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 27 June 2005 15:46, steve szmidt wrote: > One could probably argue effectively for an Asterisk-Basic list. Or an > Asterisk-Advanced user list. Something that makes it easier to get started > without being overwhelmed by 10,000-15,000 users posts. A place that > frequently posted links to

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread jurczak
List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt I for one will not be using anymore live voip...I found my own provider. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=61840&item=5783732903 &rd=1 andrew matthews wrote: > I can host here

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread

2005-06-27 Thread Wiley Siler
-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread I agree with that fact the same questions get posted, but that problem is compounded by the fact the archives are not really searchable. If the were as lease some users would search. The archives need to be fully

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 12:45 -0700, Wiley Siler wrote: > Feel free to unsubscribe at your earliest convenience. > > I for one disagree with you completely. > > The only questions that occasionally go unanswered are those that were > just asked, are written twenty times on the Wiki, or are intrinsi

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Steve Totaro
how much traffic? \ - Original Message - From: "Steven Kalcevich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "andrew matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [Aste

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread

2005-06-27 Thread Michael Di Martino
] On Behalf Of steve szmidt Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:46 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread On Monday 27 June 2005 14:31, Michael Di Martino wrote: > If this list spent at least half the time

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Dan Perik
I'm not sure which is funnier... that someone would offer something like that for sale on ebay, or that someone would pay $10.56 + $4.50 shipping to buy it. rofl - Dan Steven Kalcevich wrote: > I for one will not be using anymore live voip...I found my own provider. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eB

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Robert Webb
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:27:22 -0400 Andrew Kohlsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 27 June 2005 14:31, Michael Di Martino wrote: If this list spent at least half the time on helping other asterisk admins as it does on trivial things like LiveVoips bankruptcy it just might be a great l

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Wiley Siler
y, June 27, 2005 11:31 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt If this list spent at least half the time on helping other asterisk admins as it does on trivial things like LiveVoips bankruptcy it just might be a great list. As

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Michael Di Martino
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Kohlsmith Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:27 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt On Monday 27 June 2005 14:31, Michael Di Martino wrote: >

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Michael Di Martino
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 4:03 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt On Mon, 2005-06-27 at

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt - Why this thread

2005-06-27 Thread steve szmidt
On Monday 27 June 2005 14:31, Michael Di Martino wrote: > If this list spent at least half the time on helping other asterisk > admins as it does on > trivial things like LiveVoips bankruptcy it just might be a great list. > As it stands now this list is kind of useless. Most request for > assista

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Steven Kalcevich
I for one will not be using anymore live voip...I found my own provider. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=61840&item=5783732903&rd=1 andrew matthews wrote: I can host here in the US, lots of bandwidth. I have all my own servers. I'd love to help. On 6/26/05, *Matt Ridd

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 27 June 2005 14:31, Michael Di Martino wrote: > If this list spent at least half the time on helping other asterisk > admins as it does on > trivial things like LiveVoips bankruptcy it just might be a great list. > As it stands now this list is kind of useless. Most request for > assista

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 27 June 2005 14:24, David Brodbeck wrote: > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 > > Right click on the message list heading, Customize Current View..., Group > By..., Conversation. I just ran over and did that on a system with OfficeXP ... good lord, Microsoft even screwed up

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 14:31 -0400, Michael Di Martino wrote: > If this list spent at least half the time on helping other asterisk > admins as it does on > trivial things like LiveVoips bankruptcy it just might be a great list. > As it stands now this list is kind of useless. Most request for > as

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread David Brodbeck
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Riddell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Heh, go easy on the guy, he probably hasn't got threads and > has to read > every topic just to get to the topics he likes. > > :D > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Right click on the message list hea

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Michael Di Martino
Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 07:04 -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: > On Monday 27 June 2005 02:45, Marcel van Kaam, Fonetica wrote: > > I think by now everybody knows that LiveVoip went down, bankrupt etc > > So please stop nagging ab

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread andrew matthews
I can host here in the US, lots of bandwidth. I have all my own servers. I'd love to help.On 6/26/05, Matt Riddell < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Andres wrote:> So it looks like Livevoip went Bankrupt Sh1t.Looks like the Daily Asterisk News will need a new host.So, unless anyone can donate space for a

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 07:04 -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: > On Monday 27 June 2005 02:45, Marcel van Kaam, Fonetica wrote: > > I think by now everybody knows that LiveVoip went down, bankrupt etc > > So please stop nagging about it and move on to some topics that really > > matter. > > > > If

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Lists
On Monday 27 June 2005 10:27, Rusty Shackleford wrote: > > I think by now everybody knows that LiveVoip went down, > > bankrupt etc So please stop nagging about it and move on > > to some topics that really matter. No, this is a good lesson to listen to and possibly learn some things from. As

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Wiley Siler
8:47 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: > On Monday 27 June 2005 02:45, Marcel van Kaam, Fonetica wrote: > >>I think by now everybody knows that LiveVoip went down, bankrupt etc

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Marcel van Kaam, Fonetica
: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt Well, I guess stating at the bottom of the list is a bad idea sometimes. Sorry, Marcel, I just find this a relevant topic since so much money and time have been wasted trying to use this

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Wiley Siler
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:44 PM To: snacktime; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt It depends on how the actual purchase was worded whether or not you should be able to get a chargeback. I didn't buy from them, so I don&#

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio

2005-06-27 Thread Wiley Siler
ington Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:54 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio Wiley, thanks for pointing me to NuFone for tollfree DID. I was planning to report on results between LiveVOIP and NuFone. The apparent bankruptsy of LiveVOIP m

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Matt Riddell
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Monday 27 June 2005 02:45, Marcel van Kaam, Fonetica wrote: I think by now everybody knows that LiveVoip went down, bankrupt etc So please stop nagging about it and move on to some topics that really matter. If you want to discuss LiveVoip, get all together in a

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Wiley Siler
.0xdecafbad.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:46 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 20:49 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: > > With lawyers a dime a dozen these days, I can't imagine that LiveVOIP >

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Wiley Siler
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel van Kaam, Fonetica Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:46 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt Hi All, I think by now everybody knows that LiveVoip went dow

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Wiley Siler
time shining me the good lies... Well, it could not have happened to a nicer company. W -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andres Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 12:39 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Ban

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Wiley Siler
Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt I found a large IAX supported provider beside Voipjet. Now ...? Bashir I still i have good balance with them, I dont know what will be happend. and my canadian DID . - Original Message - From: "Brian Ca

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Danny Froberg
I'd be happy to host you in our Montreal Datacenter at no cost. Contact me off-list if you're interested. /Danny Matt Riddell wrote: Andres wrote: So it looks like Livevoip went Bankrupt Sh1t. Looks like the Daily Asterisk News will need a new host. So, unless anyone can donate space for

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Rusty Shackleford
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Marcel van Kaam, Fonetica > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:46 PM > To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Live

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 27 June 2005 07:21, Francesco Peeters wrote: > *Shrugs* Seen it, been there... This happens on all lists at some point > in time... Several lists I am on have already created an OT or TALK list > besides the main list... > > Whenever that happens, I just subscribe to the 2nd list and cus

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Francesco Peeters
On Mon, June 27, 2005 13:04, Andrew Kohlsmith said: > On Monday 27 June 2005 02:45, Marcel van Kaam, Fonetica wrote: >> I think by now everybody knows that LiveVoip went down, bankrupt etc >> So please stop nagging about it and move on to some topics that really >> matter. >> >> If you want to

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-27 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 27 June 2005 02:45, Marcel van Kaam, Fonetica wrote: > I think by now everybody knows that LiveVoip went down, bankrupt etc > So please stop nagging about it and move on to some topics that really > matter. > > If you want to discuss LiveVoip, get all together in a restaurant, eat, >

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Marcel van Kaam, Fonetica
Hi All, I think by now everybody knows that LiveVoip went down, bankrupt etc So please stop nagging about it and move on to some topics that really matter. If you want to discuss LiveVoip, get all together in a restaurant, eat, drink and nag and wine about it as much as you want. But do it th

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 20:49 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: > > With lawyers a dime a dozen these days, I can't imagine that LiveVOIP > > didn't make sure to put every protection they could in their terms of > > service or what have you. Most people don't even read them, or just > > don't care what it s

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Michael Di Martino
e 26, 2005 4:09 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt Yair Hakak wrote: > well, i can't say i'm surprised. any company whose approach to > customers is "you are all scum trying to cheat us, don't

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Rich Adamson
> With lawyers a dime a dozen these days, I can't imagine that LiveVOIP > didn't make sure to put every protection they could in their terms of > service or what have you. Most people don't even read them, or just > don't care what it says. I know nothing about LiveVOIP, so I'm not > trying to sug

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Marie
It depends on how the actual purchase was worded whether or not you should be able to get a chargeback. I didn't buy from them, so I don't know. With some clever legal wording, it is possible to sell something that the end user considers "prepay/future use" (like calling card minutes), but as far

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread snacktime
> > While some may be able to get credit card refunds (depending on a > variety of factors, like how long ago they were charged, any court > orders in place right now, etc - most banks wont give you a refund if > they know they wont get any money from the merchant, unless you can > prove fraud to

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Rich Adamson
> > If anybody is interested, we offer a VoIP solution. we have manufactured > > our own equipment and network from the ground up. The service has been > > selling successfully selling for over one year (both domestic and > > internation). If interested, let know and i will send you pricing and

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Sahil Gupta
E-mail me off-list, we'll help out :-) Regards, Sahil Gupta VoiceValley On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote: On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 23:29 +0200, Matt Riddell wrote: Andres wrote: So it looks like Livevoip went Bankrupt Sh1t. Looks like the Daily Asterisk News wil

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 23:29 +0200, Matt Riddell wrote: > Andres wrote: > > So it looks like Livevoip went Bankrupt > > Sh1t. > > Looks like the Daily Asterisk News will need a new host. > > So, unless anyone can donate space for a custom php and mysql based > site, it will be hosted in either N

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 16:42 -0400, Alexander Lopez wrote: > If I recall recently LiveVoIP touted it 'merger' with a large > corporation (daddy BigBucks). I also remember that it was posted that it > was not in the best interest of LiveVoip to move forward on the merger. > In hind sight this is pro

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Listacc
are you guys still looking for space? I can donate you some space tell me how much you need? I own a communications company based in Tulsa, OK. OCOSA Communications, LLChttp://www.ocosa.com We don't generally do we just started and mySQL as well give me a quote and I 'll will get you hooked

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Andres
snacktime wrote: For those that paid by credit card, you can call your bank and get any amount they owe you refunded. You are not a creditor as far as the bankruptcy is concerned, the acquring bank is. Chris ___ Hi Chris, I am curious to kno

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Peter Corlett
Matt Riddell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Looks like the Daily Asterisk News will need a new host. So, unless > anyone can donate space for a custom php and mysql based site, it > will be hosted in either New Zealand or Italy. > Offers? How much bandwidth does it consume? -- You fall out

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Joshua Colp
erisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt Andres wrote: > So it looks like Livevoip went Bankrupt Sh1t. Looks like the Daily Asterisk News will need a new host. So, unless anyone can donate space for a custom php and mysql based site, it will be hosted in either New Zealand or Italy. Offers? -- Cheer

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Matt Riddell
Andres wrote: So it looks like Livevoip went Bankrupt Sh1t. Looks like the Daily Asterisk News will need a new host. So, unless anyone can donate space for a custom php and mysql based site, it will be hosted in either New Zealand or Italy. Offers? -- Cheers, Matt Riddell ___

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Alexander Lopez
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:21 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoi

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread snacktime
For those that paid by credit card, you can call your bank and get any amount they owe you refunded. You are not a creditor as far as the bankruptcy is concerned, the acquring bank is. Chris ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.co

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 14:32 -0400, Orlando Guitián wrote: > If anybody is interested, we offer a VoIP solution. we have manufactured > our own equipment and network from the ground up. The service has been > selling successfully selling for over one year (both domestic and > internation). If

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 11:32 -0700, Brian Litzinger wrote: > Anytime a small new organization asks for up front payment, I wonder > about a locally famous case. > > Back in the days of beepers, a local company was selling beeper > service for about 30% less than anyone in exchange for a relatively

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread steve szmidt
On Sunday 26 June 2005 15:20, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: > On Sunday 26 June 2005 14:32, Orlando Guitián wrote: > > If anybody is interested, we offer a VoIP solution. we have manufactured > > our own equipment and network from the ground up. The service has been > > selling successfully selling fo

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Orlando Guitián
(+54 11), Argentina. The web site: www.sebell.com My corporate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Kohlsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt Dat

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Sunday 26 June 2005 14:32, Orlando Guitián wrote: > If anybody is interested, we offer a VoIP solution. we have manufactured > our own equipment and network from the ground up. The service has been > selling successfully selling for over one year (both domestic and > internation). If interes

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Orlando Guitián
, [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Rich Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:01:11 -0600 I've

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio

2005-06-26 Thread John Kington
Wiley, thanks for pointing me to NuFone for tollfree DID. I was planning to report on results between LiveVOIP and NuFone. The apparent bankruptsy of LiveVOIP means that my choppy audio will probably never be resolved. I set up both DID to go through DISA and I could then use the echo test appli

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Darren Wiebe
ashir I still i have good balance with them, I dont know what will be happend. and my canadian DID . - Original Message - From: "Brian Capouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:09

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip

2005-06-26 Thread Darren Wiebe
Well, I see they just posted a bankruptcy notice. H. Darren Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Moody wrote: I have a UK Livevoip DID that is down, and has been for several days. I'm looking to replace my London DID, low usage but need at least 2 channels and a local London number. Please email

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Mark Musone
uot;Brian Capouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:09 AM > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt > > > > > > > Yair Hakak

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Rich Adamson
gt; - Original Message - > From: "Brian Capouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" > > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:09 AM > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt > > > > Yair

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip

2005-06-26 Thread Rich Adamson
> Is there anybody else here that still has anything with Livevoip? They > are down and apparently have no idea when they will be back up. Has > anybody talked to them? I wouldn't care at all if it was not that I > have 2 DIDs that I've been unable to transfer away. :-( They are still down a

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Bashir Ullah - www.Lamsre.Com
rs Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt > Yair Hakak wrote: > > well, i can't say i'm surprised. any company whose approach to > > customers is "you are all scum trying to ch

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip

2005-06-26 Thread Obelix
Quoting Darren Wiebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: They never truly got their act together. I remember checking my CDR and realising that they were charging my 0800 numbers in 1/100 of a cent instead of cents. It is a pity their DTMF tones were not working for me. At least I would have gained something fro

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Brian Capouch
Yair Hakak wrote: well, i can't say i'm surprised. any company whose approach to customers is "you are all scum trying to cheat us, don't ask questions, and we'll help you when we feel like it" isn't going to be around for a long time. I agree totally. After seeing some of the issues people w

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip

2005-06-26 Thread Luki
See other thread about Bankruptcy. Interestingly enough, termination still works flawlessly... and better than ever before :). And, get this, they don't charge mobile rates to mobile phones in Germany... go figure... --Luki On 6/25/05, Moody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a UK Livevoip DID t

Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Yair Hakak
well, i can't say i'm surprised. any company whose approach to customers is "you are all scum trying to cheat us, don't ask questions, and we'll help you when we feel like it" isn't going to be around for a long time. On 6/26/05, Andres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So it looks like Livevoip went

[Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt

2005-06-26 Thread Andres
So it looks like Livevoip went Bankrupt --- There is a Federal Court Order in place and has been since Friday early a.m. ALL Suppliers are now under a Court Order that prevents them from terminating any and all services to LiveVoip LLC. If they take su

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip

2005-06-25 Thread Moody
I have a UK Livevoip DID that is down, and has been for several days. I'm looking to replace my London DID, low usage but need at least 2 channels and a local London number. Please email me off list if you can provide this. J On 6/26/05, Darren Wiebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there anyb

[Asterisk-Users] Livevoip

2005-06-25 Thread Darren Wiebe
Is there anybody else here that still has anything with Livevoip? They are down and apparently have no idea when they will be back up. Has anybody talked to them? I wouldn't care at all if it was not that I have 2 DIDs that I've been unable to transfer away. :-( Darren Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio

2005-06-03 Thread Wiley Siler
. YMMV as the saying goes! Cheers! Wiley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Wolfe Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:54 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio

2005-06-03 Thread Scott Wolfe
and good weekend. -Scott - Original Message - From: "Wiley Siler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:36 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio Go to dslreports.com

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio

2005-06-03 Thread Wiley Siler
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Kington Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:08 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio I just signed up with livevoip for 800 DID and have very choppy audio. >From PSTN to my asterisk is ok

[Asterisk-Users] Livevoip 800 Choppy Audio

2005-06-03 Thread John Kington
I just signed up with livevoip for 800 DID and have very choppy audio. From PSTN to my asterisk is ok but asterisk to PSTN is terrible. I am using IAX and was assigned to server iax01.nyc.*. I do not believe it is a bandwidth problem on my end and I have no problems using iax with gafachi. I ope

RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVOIP

2005-05-25 Thread Wiley Siler
I officially gave up on LiveVoip yesterday. I have spoken with Joop (the CTO) on several occasions and he has shined me a great story of how they are upgrading and all the improvements they are making. He was always been very personable and good about explaining what is supposedly going on at L

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