John Fraizer wrote:
Oh, and if you like your Grandstream, don't ever handle, let alone USE a
Cisco phone. You'll be ruined for life if you do. My grandstream is
now a "toy" phone for my 1 y/o son. It never was much more than a toy
to begin with.
Oh, and if you like you're money, don't ever o
Tony Hoyle wrote:
Eric Wieling wrote:
Why are you even looking at VoIP? Analog ports and phones are pretty
cheap. They are not "pretty", but they are cheap and all the smarts are
in the PBX.
Free calls to the US, basically, since the leased line is dirt cheap to
run. ie. the purpose of the exe
On Thursday 03 June 2004 11:42, Tony Hoyle wrote:
> Yes but they're not my problem... (Losing 2.5 days a week on meetings
> then holding another meeting to discuss why we're behind on all the
> deadlines is either tragic or funny depending on how you look at it).
> All companies seem to suffer more
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:28:33 +0100, Tony Hoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Since we share phones (at least the developers/non customer facing
people) voicemail wouldn't work too well because we'd get each others'
messages. The pen & sticky pad method seems to be OK. If everyone had
their own
Nik Martin wrote:
Holy cow. Everyone doesn't have their own phone? What kind of tightwad are
you working for? You are wasting FAR MORE money on lost productivity to
worry about the cost of a phone. Your boss doesn't realize that, or do you
work in a sweatshop environment?
Putting a senior devel
Tony Hoyle wrote:
Stephen R. Besch wrote:
Not as far as I know, at least not exactly the way you have outlined
it. Try this:
1. call comes to you
2. You hold the call and call other person.
3. You say "Someone wants to talk to you, OK, thanks"
3a. Other person then hangs up.
On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 05:27, Tony Hoyle wrote:
> Eric Wieling wrote:
> > Why are you even looking at VoIP? Analog ports and phones are pretty
> > cheap. They are not "pretty", but they are cheap and all the smarts are
> > in the PBX.
>
> Free calls to the US, basically, since the leased line is
Philipp von Klitzing wrote:
So also everyone has a headset plus a soundcard, I assume? ;->
Well everyone has a soundcard... There's a load of headsets hanging
around the office that get used at various times.
Tony
--
All your code belongs to Santa
Tony Hoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Key ID: 104D/4F4
> > BTW: And are you sure people wouldn't like to have
> voicemail? You'll
> > need
> > to make them want that... ;-> I guess you can even argue
> that voicemail
> > increases productivity.
>
> Since we share phones (at least the developers/non customer facing
> people) voicemail wouldn't wo
On Thursday 03 June 2004 09:30, Michael Welter wrote:
> I would not recommend software RAID. My experience is that, if there is
> a reboot resulting from an abnormal shutdown, Linux will recover
> (re-copy) the secondary drive. This process pegs the processor
> (90-100%) and takes a lng time.
Hi!
> > BTW: And are you sure people wouldn't like to have voicemail? You'll need
> > to make them want that... ;-> I guess you can even argue that voicemail
> > increases productivity.
>
> Since we share phones (at least the developers/non customer facing
> people) voicemail wouldn't work too
I would not recommend software RAID. My experience is that, if there is
a reboot resulting from an abnormal shutdown, Linux will recover
(re-copy) the secondary drive. This process pegs the processor
(90-100%) and takes a lng time. Of course, voice quality suffers
when a processor is not
Philipp von Klitzing wrote:
Then one option is to check if you can keep the PBX and the phones, and
just put Asterisk in between this PBX and the Telco. Compensate the costs
of the Asterisk hardware with less spending on calls due to routing
through a VoIP proivder etc and see if that makes a go
Hi!
> Our desktop phones were done as a package deal from the building owner
> (who also runs the existing PBX) for almost nothing.
Then one option is to check if you can keep the PBX and the phones, and
just put Asterisk in between this PBX and the Telco. Compensate the costs
of the Asterisk
Eric Wieling wrote:
Why are you even looking at VoIP? Analog ports and phones are pretty
cheap. They are not "pretty", but they are cheap and all the smarts are
in the PBX.
Free calls to the US, basically, since the leased line is dirt cheap to
run. ie. the purpose of the exercise is to save mo
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Adam Goryachev wrote:
> Well, actually they are. Sure, for $20 you can buy an analog phone, for
> $150 you can buy a grandstream, big difference. However, for a PBX class
> telephone, you are looking at prices > $500 per handset
In Sweden, which I am sure is not the least
Adam Goryachev wrote:
On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 11:40, Tony Hoyle wrote:
Adam Goryachev wrote:
Well, actually they are. Sure, for $20 you can buy an analog phone, for
$150 you can buy a grandstream, big difference. However, for a PBX class
telephone, you are looking at prices > $500 per handset
Why are you even looking at VoIP? Analog ports and phones are pretty
cheap. They are not "pretty", but they are cheap and all the smarts are
in the PBX.
On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 20:40, Tony Hoyle wrote:
> Adam Goryachev wrote:
>
> > The smarts are in the PBX not the phone. Though the phone DOES ne
On Wednesday 02 June 2004 23:13, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> redundant power. Supermicro makes such a system, I think 1 proc, 512M ECC
> RAM and dual 9G drives was just under USD$1200.
Oh yeah -- if you're going to do the TE405P with that supermicro system you're
gonna have to saw up the card to g
On Wednesday 02 June 2004 22:55, Tony Hoyle wrote:
> Probably a good idea. Just need to work out how much the channel bank
> costs (~60 phones at the moment, probably best to allow for ~100).
Adit600 with 48 FXS = ~USD$500-600 on ebay
TE405P = USD$1500
Two Adit600s give you 96 ports and the TE4
Nik Martin wrote:
You really should be using analog phones with asterisk. You'll be a
hero to your boss, because the phones wont cost a pile. All you need to
Since we already have the phones, they won't cost anything :)
add is a channel bank for the analog phones, and asterisk. There is a
re
Adam Goryachev wrote:
Plus consultative transfer calls
Well yes... pbx's job though (usually, although apparently not always...).
Plus speaker phone
No allowed to use them as they disturb people working.
Plus conferencing
We have a conferencing phone which is a huge triangular thing with lots
of s
Oh and you need a fine digium card to interface with the channel bank.
Nik
Nik Martin wrote:
Tony Hoyle wrote:
No idea what you mean by PBX class telephone but if anyone at our
company spent $500 on a phone they'd probably be fired (unless it was
the boss).
Our desktop phones were done as a pac
Tony Hoyle wrote:
No idea what you mean by PBX class telephone but if anyone at our
company spent $500 on a phone they'd probably be fired (unless it was
the boss).
Our desktop phones were done as a package deal from the building owner
(who also runs the existing PBX) for almost nothing.
Al
On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 11:40, Tony Hoyle wrote:
> Adam Goryachev wrote:
> > Well, actually they are. Sure, for $20 you can buy an analog phone, for
> > $150 you can buy a grandstream, big difference. However, for a PBX class
> > telephone, you are looking at prices > $500 per handset
>
> No ide
Adam Goryachev wrote:
The smarts are in the PBX not the phone. Though the phone DOES need a
way to tell the PBX what it wants to do. The phone is just the interface
(like the keyboard on your PC), but the PBX (CPU) is what really does
the work
That was the point I started with...
> Well, actua
On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 10:21, Tony Hoyle wrote:
> John Fraizer wrote:
> > your desk has to be able to TELL the PBX you want to transfer a call.
>
> No it doesn't there's a universal (?) standard for this - hit recall, dial new
> number. Heck it even works on PSTN lines if you pay for the right s
John Fraizer wrote:
your desk has to be able to TELL the PBX you want to transfer a call.
No it doesn't there's a universal (?) standard for this - hit recall, dial new
number. Heck it even works on PSTN lines if you pay for the right services.
So, in short: Buy a cheap phone, get cheap results
Tony Hoyle wrote:
>
> Stephen R. Besch wrote:
> >
> > Not as far as I know, at least not exactly the way you have
> outlined it.
> > Try this:
> >
> > 1. call comes to you
> > 2. You hold the call and call other person.
> > 3. You say "Someone wants to talk to you, OK, thanks"
> >
On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 13:03, Sergio Serrano wrote:
> I have just to talk with Grandstream and they say to me that they ar
> working in 3-way conferencing for BT-100 series. I hope they have FW
> soon. One question more? How can I do parking call with Budgetone.
> Before # works fine, but Now it doe
Tony Hoyle wrote:
John Fraizer wrote:
Asterisk handles transfer just fine. It's the P-O-S Grandstreams that
don't.
Even this analogue phone that's on my desk handles this... it's not
normally a function of the phone, but of the PBX.
How do companies that use asterisk handle incoming support ca
On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 12:52, Tony Hoyle wrote:
> Even this analogue phone that's on my desk handles this... it's not
> normally a function of the phone, but of the PBX.
>
> How do companies that use asterisk handle incoming support calls?? I'm
> genuinely surprised anyone can survive without th
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Enviado el: miércoles, 02 de junio de 2004 19:29
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Asunto: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Transfer with Budgetone
Tony Hoyle wrote:
> Stephen R. Besch wrote:
>
>>
>> Not as far as I know, at least
John Fraizer wrote:
Asterisk handles transfer just fine. It's the P-O-S Grandstreams that
don't.
Even this analogue phone that's on my desk handles this... it's not
normally a function of the phone, but of the PBX.
How do companies that use asterisk handle incoming support calls?? I'm
genuine
Tony Hoyle wrote:
Stephen R. Besch wrote:
Not as far as I know, at least not exactly the way you have outlined
it. Try this:
1. call comes to you
2. You hold the call and call other person.
3. You say "Someone wants to talk to you, OK, thanks"
3a. Other person then hangs up.
On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 09:44, Tony Hoyle wrote:
>
> Ugh. So Asterisk doesn't handle transfer?
>
> Every company phone system I've ever used has not required 3a-3d. It
> looks like a real hack to do so.
>
> It anyone working on implementing this?
As far as I can tell it's a limitation of the
Stephen R. Besch wrote:
Not as far as I know, at least not exactly the way you have outlined it.
Try this:
1. call comes to you
2. You hold the call and call other person.
3. You say "Someone wants to talk to you, OK, thanks"
3a. Other person then hangs up.
3b. You flash bac
I know that way, but some person ask for me for first way to do
transfers.
srsergio
-Mensaje original-
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Besch
Enviado el: miércoles, 02 de junio de 2004 15:37
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: [Asterisk-Users] Re
Sergio Serrano wrote:
Hi all, I try to do next transfer:
A person contact with me, I would like transfer to other person
in next manner. I call to other person and when I say who wants talk
with him I hangup phones an call is redirect automatically to other
person:
1. call to me
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