[Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Steven Sokol
Having just returned from four days at the VON show in Santa Clara, I thought I would submit a "highlights" message. I hope others who attended the show will take the opportunity to add, as there was far more to see than I can cover on my own. [VoIP IS BIG] First, I have to say that VoIP is BIG.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Steven Sokol wrote: Having just returned from four days at the VON show in Santa Clara, I thought I would submit a "highlights" message. I hope others who attended the show will take the opportunity to add, as there was far more to see than I can cover on my own. Thank you for a good report! Comme

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Scott Laird
On Apr 5, 2004, at 12:10 PM, Olle E. Johansson wrote: Members of the IETF added information on the to-be-standardized standard, meaning that SIP with TLS over TCP will be mandatory. We need to start working on TCP and TLS support. Could someone explain to me why anyone in their right mind would e

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread James Golovich
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004, Scott Laird wrote: > Could someone explain to me why anyone in their right mind would ever > want to run VoIP (or any lossy real-time data) over TCP? Unless I'm > missing something, the effects of packet loss would be almost perfectly > pessimal. Every time you lose a pa

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Steven Sokol
> On Apr 5, 2004, at 12:10 PM, Olle E. Johansson wrote: > > Members of the IETF added information on the to-be-standardized > > standard, > > meaning that SIP with TLS over TCP will be mandatory. We need to start > > working > > on TCP and TLS support. > > Could someone explain to me why anyone in

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Scott Laird
On Apr 5, 2004, at 12:34 PM, James Golovich wrote: On Mon, 5 Apr 2004, Scott Laird wrote: Could someone explain to me why anyone in their right mind would ever want to run VoIP (or any lossy real-time data) over TCP? Unless I'm missing something, the effects of packet loss would be almost perfec

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Scott Laird wrote: On Apr 5, 2004, at 12:10 PM, Olle E. Johansson wrote: Members of the IETF added information on the to-be-standardized standard, meaning that SIP with TLS over TCP will be mandatory. We need to start working on TCP and TLS support. Could someone explain to me why anyone in the

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Olle E. Johansson
James Golovich wrote: On Mon, 5 Apr 2004, Scott Laird wrote: Could someone explain to me why anyone in their right mind would ever want to run VoIP (or any lossy real-time data) over TCP? Unless I'm missing something, the effects of packet loss would be almost perfectly pessimal. Every time

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Steven Sokol wrote: I think Olle Johansson took pictures of the event. They may already be on the WiKi in fact. I've uploaded the pictures without editing at http://www.voip-forum.com/asterisk/von2004/index.htm Enjoy! /O ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Scott Laird
On Apr 5, 2004, at 12:49 PM, Olle E. Johansson wrote: SRTP protects RTP/UDP media with encryption. There are concerns that sending positioning within SIP/UDP will reveal private detailes, like position. Hence the encryption requirement. The position data needs to be given by the ISP in DHCP config

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Mark Messmore, Technical Support, University Telcom Inc.
il 05, 2004 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up Steven Sokol wrote: > I think Olle Johansson took pictures of the event. > They may already be on the WiKi in fact. I've uploaded the pictures without editing at http://www.voip-forum.com/

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Tom
At 01:44 PM 4/5/2004, you wrote: Having just returned from four days at the VON show in Santa Clara, I thought I would submit a "highlights" message. I hope others who attended the show will take the opportunity to add, as there was far more to see than I can cover on my own. Was there any aggress

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Scott Laird wrote: On Apr 5, 2004, at 12:49 PM, Olle E. Johansson wrote: SRTP protects RTP/UDP media with encryption. There are concerns that sending positioning within SIP/UDP will reveal private detailes, like position. Hence the encryption requirement. The position data needs to be given by th

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Bob Klepfer
Mark Messmore, Technical Support, University Telcom Inc. wrote: K...maybe this was stated earlier in the conversation...but what's the deal with the phone? Or was this phone just being carried around by everyone and ripped apart? Old Bell Phone + IAXy + 802.11b card + Batteries = Homemade WiSI

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Scott Laird wrote: 2. Is anyone working on SRTP for Asterisk? Are there any SRTP clients out there? Checked again, the vovida.org and the sourceforge one are the same. And here's the good news: THey're using a BSD license. That means we can incorporate this library into Asterisk without a licen

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Mike Machado
> Was there any aggressive pricing given for nationwide voip LD? Level3 had several products, one they called Enhanced which was supposed to also include E911 service. They quoted me about $.01 per minute inbound or outbound nation wide. They said they support the top 300 cities in the US and, of

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-05 Thread Bob Knight
Bob Klepfer wrote: Mark Messmore, Technical Support, University Telcom Inc. wrote: K...maybe this was stated earlier in the conversation...but what's the deal with the phone? Or was this phone just being carried around by everyone and ripped apart? Old Bell Phone + IAXy + 802.11b card + Batte

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Spring VON Wrap Up

2004-04-07 Thread Jan Janak
On 05-04 14:35, Steven Sokol wrote: > TCP/TLS would be used for the SIP messaging which handles call setup, > teardown, and other non-Realtime functions. The voice stream will still be > handled via RTP which is a UDP-based protocol. > > The reason for doing the call setup as TCP is to allow for