Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-05 Thread Drew Gibson
Alex Balashov wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/01/richard_bennett_utorrent_udp/ > > FUD? Interesting? Boring? New news? Old news? > > Seems the sky isn't falling (yet). The original article didn't have the full story, here's an update... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/0

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-03 Thread Drew Gibson
Ira wrote: > At 12:44 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: > >> At 04:03 12/2/2008, Benny Amorsen wrote: >> >Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > >> >> "Net Neutrality" is great in principle. But ISP's need to >> >> somehow control those few percentage of users who suck down >> >> a huge majority of

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-02 Thread Ira
At 12:44 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: >At 04:03 12/2/2008, Benny Amorsen wrote: > >Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> "Net Neutrality" is great in principle. But ISP's need to > >> somehow control those few percentage of users who suck down > >> a huge majority of the bandwidth. It's doll

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-02 Thread SIP
Doug wrote: > At 07:00 12/2/2008, SIP wrote: > >Doug wrote: > >> At 18:56 12/1/2008, Tilghman Lesher wrote: > >> >On Monday 01 December 2008 06:21:33 pm Doug wrote: > >> >> We tell our customers that they are not allowed to > >> >> download copyrighted material. > >> > > >> >So your cus

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-02 Thread Doug
At 07:57 12/2/2008, Andrew Kohlsmith (lists) wrote: >On December 1, 2008 07:21:33 pm Doug wrote: >> Hmmm. When our users are pounding the network >> with BitTorrent traffic, we just shut them down >> and wait for them to complain. It's against our >> Acceptable Use Policy, and causes all sor

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-02 Thread SIP
Doug wrote: > At 04:03 12/2/2008, Benny Amorsen wrote: > >Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> "Net Neutrality" is great in principle. But ISP's need to > >> somehow control those few percentage of users who suck down > >> a huge majority of the bandwidth. It's dollars and cents. > > >

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-02 Thread Doug
At 07:00 12/2/2008, SIP wrote: >Doug wrote: >> At 18:56 12/1/2008, Tilghman Lesher wrote: >> >On Monday 01 December 2008 06:21:33 pm Doug wrote: >> >> We tell our customers that they are not allowed to >> >> download copyrighted material. >> > >> >So your customers are only allowed to d

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-02 Thread Doug
At 04:03 12/2/2008, Benny Amorsen wrote: >Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> "Net Neutrality" is great in principle. But ISP's need to >> somehow control those few percentage of users who suck down >> a huge majority of the bandwidth. It's dollars and cents. > >Yes, just like the airlin

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith (lists)
On December 1, 2008 07:21:33 pm Doug wrote: > Hmmm. When our users are pounding the network > with BitTorrent traffic, we just shut them down > and wait for them to complain. It's against our > Acceptable Use Policy, and causes all sorts of > VOIP headaches. As someone who is the technical lead

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-02 Thread SIP
Doug wrote: > At 18:56 12/1/2008, Tilghman Lesher wrote: > >On Monday 01 December 2008 06:21:33 pm Doug wrote: > >> We tell our customers that they are not allowed to > >> download copyrighted material. > > > >So your customers are only allowed to download public domain > >material? That kin

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-02 Thread Benny Amorsen
Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Net Neutrality" is great in principle. But ISP's need to > somehow control those few percentage of users who suck down > a huge majority of the bandwidth. It's dollars and cents. Yes, just like the airlines need to somehow control those users who keep showing

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-01 Thread Doug
At 18:56 12/1/2008, Tilghman Lesher wrote: >On Monday 01 December 2008 06:21:33 pm Doug wrote: >> We tell our customers that they are not allowed to >> download copyrighted material. > >So your customers are only allowed to download public domain >material? That kind of restricts the amount

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-01 Thread Alex Balashov
BJ Weschke wrote: > Alex Balashov wrote: >> RE Kushner List Account wrote: >> >> >>> The question is, what are you actually paying for as a customer? To >>> discriminate against bits just because they actually use what they are >>> paying for is beyond me. >>> >>> At least a bandwidth cap is

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-01 Thread BJ Weschke
Alex Balashov wrote: > RE Kushner List Account wrote: > > >> The question is, what are you actually paying for as a customer? To >> discriminate against bits just because they actually use what they are >> paying for is beyond me. >> >> At least a bandwidth cap is easier to understand. You ge

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-01 Thread Alex Balashov
RE Kushner List Account wrote: > The question is, what are you actually paying for as a customer? To > discriminate against bits just because they actually use what they are > paying for is beyond me. > > At least a bandwidth cap is easier to understand. You get what you pay for. Speaking as

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-01 Thread RE Kushner List Account
Igor Widlinski wrote: > Awesome, I always wanted to see this "law" in real life. > > Technically I didn't call him THAT guy. I was thinking of that recently elected Chicago street thug who speaks before large crowds at night. Just spend ten seconds on YouTube and you'll see it's not my origin

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-01 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Monday 01 December 2008 06:21:33 pm Doug wrote: > We tell our customers that they are not allowed to > download copyrighted material. So your customers are only allowed to download public domain material? That kind of restricts the amount of information available on the Internet. Nitpick: ju

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-01 Thread Igor Widlinski
Awesome, I always wanted to see this "law" in real life. Thank You!! Alex Balashov wrote: > RE Kushner List Account wrote: > >> Doug wrote: >> >>> Why the BitTorrent guys want to give themselves >>> even a worse reputation is beyond me. We tell >>> our customers that they are not allowed

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-01 Thread RE Kushner List Account
Alex Balashov wrote: > RE Kushner List Account wrote: > >> Doug wrote: >> >>> Why the BitTorrent guys want to give themselves >>> even a worse reputation is beyond me. We tell >>> our customers that they are not allowed to >>> download copyrighted material. But for other, >>> legal BitTorre

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-01 Thread Alex Balashov
RE Kushner List Account wrote: > Doug wrote: >> Why the BitTorrent guys want to give themselves >> even a worse reputation is beyond me. We tell >> our customers that they are not allowed to >> download copyrighted material. But for other, >> legal BitTorrent transfers, we suggest that >> they us

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-01 Thread RE Kushner List Account
Doug wrote: > Why the BitTorrent guys want to give themselves > even a worse reputation is beyond me. We tell > our customers that they are not allowed to > download copyrighted material. But for other, > legal BitTorrent transfers, we suggest that > they use the scheduling feature of uTorrent to

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-01 Thread Doug
At 12:34 12/1/2008, Alex Balashov wrote: >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/01/richard_bennett_utorrent_udp/ > >FUD? Interesting? Boring? New news? Old news? Hmmm. When our users are pounding the network with BitTorrent traffic, we just shut them down and wait for them to complain. It'

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-01 Thread Christopher Dobbs
Sounds possible, but as a user of uTorrent, I have yet to see this "feature" It may simply be that I havnt looked hard enough. I can say, that I still have to have a tcp port routed for uTorrent to work properly. I may post an update, If I notice a change in this behavour. --Christopher Dobbs

[asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

2008-12-01 Thread Alex Balashov
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/01/richard_bennett_utorrent_udp/ FUD? Interesting? Boring? New news? Old news? -- Alex Balashov Evariste Systems Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel: (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671 Mobile : (+1) (706) 338-8599 _