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From: Jonathan Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 911 and lawsuits and redundancy
This is esp true of any VoIP PBX system. In fact I think many of them run
Windows.
I do have a related question about how * users
, January 06, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 911 and lawsuits
ever notice the spec sheets from semiconductor manufacturers specifically
exclude the device from being used for medical applications ?
do something similar with asterisk - put a sticker on the box saying not
911 rated
My take on redundancy is to use a real server with disk mirroring and
redundant power supplies.
That's hardly redundant. What if you lose a disk controller? Or any part
of the motherboard? Or CPU? Power supplies can and have failed in ways
that manage to take out system components. :-)
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 09:31, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
My take on redundancy is to use a real server with disk mirroring and
redundant power supplies.
That's hardly redundant. What if you lose a disk controller? Or any part
of the motherboard? Or CPU? Power supplies can and have failed
SCSI controllers shouldn't get spooked by drive failures. Just choose
good controllers. This can be difficult as you find out that even
Adaptec has been known to have controllers that don't work well under
some loads in linux. Dell has a mailing list that basically is devoted
to the fixing of
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 911 and lawsuits
Now imagine this person having his SIP phone in IOWA talking
to the the telephone switch in New York via VPN and dialing
911. The call will go to NYPD.
Why is it the theoretical VoIP user in such examples always seems
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 10:26, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
SCSI controllers shouldn't get spooked by drive failures. Just choose
good controllers. This can be difficult as you find out that even
Adaptec has been known to have controllers that don't work well under
some loads in linux. Dell has a
Quoting Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anyways, while hotswap PSUs may not be important, any machine that is
important is important enough for redundant supplies. It doesn't add
much to the cost of the case and is a good insurance policy.
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Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 18:55, Jonathan Moore wrote:
Quoting Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anyways, while hotswap PSUs may not be important, any machine that is
important is important enough for redundant supplies. It doesn't add
much to the cost of the case and is a good insurance
Parker
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 911 and lawsuits
It's just as well that here in Hong Kong employers don't have to worry
about being sued by their staff tripping over their own laces ; or
microwave oven manufacturers getting sued
Now imagine this person having his SIP phone in IOWA talking
to the the telephone switch in New York via VPN and dialing
911. The call will go to NYPD.
Why is it the theoretical VoIP user in such examples always seems to be from
Iowa or Nebraska? I feel compelled to state that not all people
On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 10:56, Jim Flagg wrote:
Just curious if any of the Asterisk installers are doing anything special
to protect themselves from a possible lawsuit caused by 911 failure
during a Asterisk/computer crash?
I realize that any traditional PBX or even a phone line can fail but,
: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 911 and lawsuits
On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 10:56, Jim Flagg wrote:
Just curious if any of the Asterisk installers are doing anything special
to protect themselves from a possible lawsuit caused by 911 failure
during
This is esp true of any VoIP PBX system. In fact I think many of them run Windows.
I do have a related question about how * users are creating redundancy in thier
setups? I am going live in a few days with a single office setup where I have
patched the * PBX in front of our existing legacy phone
ever notice the spec sheets from semiconductor manufacturers specifically
exclude the device from being used for medical applications ?
do something similar with asterisk - put a sticker on the box saying not
911 rated or something, use at your own risk.
I wouldn't be caught dead (well maybe I
It's just as well that here in Hong Kong employers don't have to worry about
being sued by their staff tripping over their own laces ; or microwave oven
manufacturers getting sued by old ladies drying off their poodle ; or
supermarket owners getting sued by stupid customers who trip over their own
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From: Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 911 and lawsuits
I realize that any traditional PBX or even a phone line can fail but,
anything running on a computer
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 911 and lawsuits and redundancy
This is esp true of any VoIP PBX system. In fact I think many of them run Windows.
Or VOIP
I would ask the same question about zero SLA Broadband Internet providers.
How could an Asterisk installers determine if the Broadband latency reached a
level
were the IP network was not available to a VoIP subscriber at time of a 911
call.
this is a log clip of a SIP UA connecting across a
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Jon Pounder wrote:
The phone does not have to necessarily be at the pbx either, it could be
brought out to the reception desk etc.
On Definity systems, we used a device called something like Emergency
Cut-over. When power from the switch was lost, the device threw a bunch
Jon Pounder wrote:
ever notice the spec sheets from semiconductor manufacturers specifically
exclude the device from being used for medical applications ?
As does Microsoft's standard software license. Don't use this for any
life-or-death application. (I believe medical and nuclear plant
quote who=Jim Flagg
Most business would have lots of cell phones around but in many metal building
they do not work. They also don't provide the address information that a
land line phone provides.
My company gets over the issue of the incorrect address information for the
true location of
The question wasn't that someone had problems with asterisk, but was
asking a question all consultants eventually have to think about. If you
touch someone else's hardware, you are now playing a risk game. The
risks are that you haven't clued your customer in fully on what to
expect and therefore
On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 11:46, Jim Flagg wrote:
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From: Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 911 and lawsuits
I realize that any traditional PBX or even a phone line
In my opionion, right/wrong, courts would rule against any company
that provided fair warning to the customer of the possibility that
a system (pbx or otherwise) could fail, and some alternative form
(with employee training) of emergency services has been recommended.
Doing that verbally is not
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