Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

On 5/2/06, Wayne Gemmell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Opened pseudo zap interface, measuring accuracy... This may be a stupid question but how did you do this? in your zaptel source dir (after making..): ./zttest -v or search for zttest on voip-info. cheers

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

On Sunday 30 April 2006 10:27, Boris Bakchiev wrote: > Opened pseudo zap interface, measuring accuracy... This may be a stupid question but how did you do this? -- Cheers Wayne ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users m

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

On 4/30/06, Remco Barende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I e-mailed Dell support and asked them if it is possibel to assign a unique IRQ to one of the three PCI slots. Their reply was, not possible, you are ALWAYS sharing IRQ's, I guess this is the reason for the poor results I'm seeing. If you're

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, Boris Bakchiev wrote: I must say, spending just a little extra to get good hardware pays off in the long run. If you have any questions, email. Wow, impressive results must say. Thanks for the specs and test results. I had hoped that with the Dell 2850 I would have

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

.   Boris   > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anton Krall > Sent: Friday, 21 April 2006 14:27 > To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' > Subject: RE: [Aste

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

8:52 PM |To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion |Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing ! | |Our production asterisk server has TE411P and we route close |to 50-70K of calls per month through its ports. |We have NEVER EVER had any issues with faxing (close

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Our production asterisk server has TE411P and we route close to 50-70K of calls per month through its ports. We have NEVER EVER had any issues with faxing (close to 3k/month) with faxes connected on one of the spans of the card. Moreover, we have had quite a success receiving the faxes with iaxmod

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Monday 17 April 2006 07:44, Rich Adamson wrote: I don't believe you will ever get POTS -> FXO-TDM400P-to-anything to work properly due to TDM card limitations. So, move all of those to the bottom of your list. I *had* this working. POTS -> TDM400 TDM400 -> Real_hone

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

Olivier Krief wrote: 2006/4/17, Nicholas Kathmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >: I agree with Lee. I have about 30 machines in production using iaxmodem and hylafax which work perfectly. Most are running off of T1s, but some are on TDM400 and TDM2400s. I

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

2006/4/17, Nicholas Kathmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I agree with Lee.  I have about 30 machines in production using iaxmodemand hylafax which work perfectly.  Most are running off of T1s, but someare on TDM400 and TDM2400s.  I only use IBM servers (which are about twice the cost for the low end Dells

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Monday 17 April 2006 08:21, Lee Howard wrote: I and other iaxmodem users can say "fax works" with analog PSTN connections. In my case, as well as those others of which I am aware, an X100P ("clone", er winmodem) is being used. Interesting. Do you have more

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

Lee Howard wrote: Rich Adamson wrote: I don't believe you will ever get POTS -> FXO-TDM400P-to-anything to work properly due to TDM card limitations. So, move all of those to the bottom of your list. If you pay close attention to those postings from the last two years in which users say "fa

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

On Monday 17 April 2006 08:21, Lee Howard wrote: > I and other iaxmodem users can say "fax works" with analog PSTN > connections. In my case, as well as those others of which I am aware, > an X100P ("clone", er winmodem) is being used. Interesting. Do you have more information about your setup (

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

Rich Adamson wrote: I don't believe you will ever get POTS -> FXO-TDM400P-to-anything to work properly due to TDM card limitations. So, move all of those to the bottom of your list. If you pay close attention to those postings from the last two years in which users say "fax works", the major

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

On Monday 17 April 2006 07:44, Rich Adamson wrote: > I don't believe you will ever get POTS -> FXO-TDM400P-to-anything to > work properly due to TDM card limitations. So, move all of those to the > bottom of your list. I *had* this working. POTS -> TDM400 TDM400 -> Real_honest_fax_machine As I'd

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

Remco Barende wrote: So, to document this, the likelihood of a fax working goes in this order best to worse: 1. POTS -> fax 2. POTS -> FXO-TDM400P-FXS -> fax 3. T1 -> TE410P -> channel bank -> fax 4. T1 -> TE110P -> PCI -> TE110P -> channel bank -> fax 5. T1 -> TE110P ->

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Sunday 16 April 2006 08:07, Steve Totaro wrote: How many faxes a day do you average? If it is one a day for six months then that is one thing. One hundred a day and I would say that you definitely have a stable setup. Does 14526 faxes to date (since 06 Jan

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

On Sunday 16 April 2006 08:07, Steve Totaro wrote: > How many faxes a day do you average? If it is one a day for six months > then that is one thing. One hundred a day and I would say that you > definitely have a stable setup. Does 14526 faxes to date (since 06 Jan 2006) count as stable? My set

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

On Apr 16, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Steve Totaro wrote: How many faxes a day do you average? If it is one a day for six months then that is one thing. One hundred a day and I would say that you definitely have a stable setup. Yeah, only couple faxes a week. So nothing huge here, but like I sai

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Michiel van Baak wrote: This is how we do faxing, and till now it has bee 100% accurate. Incoming faxes are handled by chan_capi, using a cheap AVM fritz pci card. Outgoing fax is done with an old brother analog fax, connected to a grandstream 285 (or whatever the number, it's their cheapest).

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

This is how we do faxing, and till now it has bee 100% accurate. Incoming faxes are handled by chan_capi, using a cheap AVM fritz pci card. Outgoing fax is done with an old brother analog fax, connected to a grandstream 285 (or whatever the number, it's their cheapest). Asterisk connects the

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

- Original Message - From: "Steve Underwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing ! Remco Barende wrote: Hmm not so sur

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Remco Barende wrote: Hmm not so sure of that. I have an HP all-in-one thingy. It is not possible to set the TX/RX speed hard in the config at a certain speed. Through the developers menu in the beast it is possible to do this temporary. Faxing at max 9600 bps works, anything higher fails mis

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Hmm not so sure of that. I have an HP all-in-one thingy. It is not possible to set the TX/RX speed hard in the config at a certain speed. Through the developers menu in the beast it is possible to do this temporary. Faxing at max 9600 bps works, anything higher fails miserably after the second

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Remco Barende wrote: record the sound fax machines make when negotiating (specifically the part where they try to negotiate anything above 9600 baud) and make a provision in asterisk (an extra letter added to the Dial command?) that will make Asterisk monitor the channel and listen for the fax

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

record the sound fax machines make when negotiating (specifically the part where they try to negotiate anything above 9600 baud) and make a provision in asterisk (an extra letter added to the Dial command?) that will make Asterisk monitor the channel and listen for the fax nego sounds and have As

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Remco Barende wrote: On Sat, 15 Apr 2006, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Actually, I did. During a FAX transmission, there are many shifts to different carriers and signaling rates as pages are transmitted and acknowledged. It is _not_ as simple as a single carrier, like a normal data modem connecti

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Begumisa Gerald M wrote: Hi Steve, Thank you for your very enlightening message! On Sat, 15 Apr 2006, Steve Underwood wrote: [...] > modem it must be applied end to end by the modems themselves. The > real killer, though, is imperfect timing. [...] > and its not always

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

On Sat, 15 Apr 2006, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Actually, I did. During a FAX transmission, there are many shifts to different carriers and signaling rates as pages are transmitted and acknowledged. It is _not_ as simple as a single carrier, like a normal data modem connection. In addition to thos

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Hi Steve, Thank you for your very enlightening message! On Sat, 15 Apr 2006, Steve Underwood wrote: [...] > modem it must be applied end to end by the modems themselves. The > real killer, though, is imperfect timing. [...] > and its not always always available withi

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

So, to document this, the likelihood of a fax working goes in this order best to worse: 1. POTS -> fax 2. POTS -> FXO-TDM400P-FXS -> fax 3. T1 -> TE410P -> channel bank -> fax 4. T1 -> TE110P -> PCI -> TE110P -> channel bank -> fax 5. T1 -> TE110P -

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: What about a new line of Digium cards that have bridge cables that run between the various cards and bypass the PCI bus? Since one of the best aspects of using Asterisk is standards. This bridge cable should be standardized and published so t

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Jeff Gustafson wrote: Is there any reason an easier implementation of the same, basic, idea could be created for the "Asterisk generation?" According to a quick search of H.100 it's "just" a TDM bus. It handles 2,048 full duplex calls. Would a lightweight

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Rusty Dekema wrote: If this works, I don't see why a fax transmission wouldn't work. Is it because the fax protocol doesn't have error correction? Is that even true? FAX transmission is massively more complex than modem transmission. At higher speeds, it invol

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

George Pajari wrote: > I'm sure you didn't quite mean to write what you have said above. Fax > transmission builds upon exactly the same ITU-T standards as data > transmission. For example, 33.6 kbps fax transmission (so called "Super > G3") uses the same V.34 standard as 33.6 data modems. At slow

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

On 15 Apr 2006, at 06:53, George Pajari wrote: Kevin: You wrote: FAX transmission is massively more complex than modem transmission. At higher speeds, it involves 3 or 4 different 'carrier' frequencies and signaling rate shifts, and these are done with very critical timing requirements.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Kevin: You wrote: FAX transmission is massively more complex than modem transmission. At higher speeds, it involves 3 or 4 different 'carrier' frequencies and signaling rate shifts, and these are done with very critical timing requirements. I'm sure you didn't quite mean to write what you h

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

lf Of |Rich Adamson |Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:37 AM |To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion |Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing ! | |Anton Krall wrote: |> Problem is, how to make sure you system WILL have 100% on zttest |> before buyin

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

|Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:19 AM |To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion |Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing ! | |I believe the TDM2400 has the capability of doing on-card |fxo->fxs data flows (without hitting the pci bus), but that |function

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

What do you mean Matt? |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of |Matt Riddell (IT) |Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 7:53 AM |To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion |Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 15:35 -0500, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > Jeff Gustafson wrote: > > > My fault. I meant to say PCI-e, which is a newer bus that Dell is > > shipping on their server class machines. > > Right. That is not supported by any Digium products yet, but it still > won't help the F

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

Jeff Gustafson wrote: > Is there any reason an easier implementation of the same, basic, idea > could be created for the "Asterisk generation?" According to a quick > search of H.100 it's "just" a TDM bus. It handles 2,048 full duplex > calls. Would a lightweight version that only support

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

Jeff Gustafson wrote: > My fault. I meant to say PCI-e, which is a newer bus that Dell is > shipping on their server class machines. Right. That is not supported by any Digium products yet, but it still won't help the FAXing issue, since the issue is _not_ PCI bus bandwidth. In fact, the F

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 15:10 -0500, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > Jeff Gustafson wrote: > > > I was looking at using a Dell server for running Asterisk and noticed > > that Dell has started using PCI-X on a lot of their new systems. Does > > this newer bus standard help the situation with faxing?

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 15:10 -0500, Aaron Daniel wrote: > Well, the TE410P and TE411P work in the PCI-X slots since it's backwards > compatible. So I guess in effect, the Digium's cards already do support > it :) > My fault. I meant to say PCI-e, which is a newer bus that Dell is shipp

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

Well, the TE410P and TE411P work in the PCI-X slots since it's backwards compatible. So I guess in effect, the Digium's cards already do support it :) Aaron On Fri, 14 Apr 2006, Jeff Gustafson wrote: On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 13:49 -0300, Joshua Colp wrote: Some people have problems, some peo

Re: Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

Jeff Gustafson wrote: > I was looking at using a Dell server for running Asterisk and noticed > that Dell has started using PCI-X on a lot of their new systems. Does > this newer bus standard help the situation with faxing? No. PCI-X is just a wider/higher-speed version of PCI, not a new

Faxing and PCI (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !)

On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 13:49 -0300, Joshua Colp wrote: > Some people have problems, some people don't. There is no way you can be > prepared for every situation out there. We try our best. > I was looking at using a Dell server for running Asterisk and noticed that Dell has started using

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 08:19 -0500, Rich Adamson wrote: > I believe the TDM2400 has the capability of doing on-card fxo->fxs data > flows (without hitting the pci bus), but that function has not yet been > implemented. Its basically "required" to support faxes in an analog > environment. When it

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

pearance was so easy... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Adamson Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:37 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing ! Anton Kral

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

sy... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Adamson Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:37 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing ! Anton Krall wrote: > Probl

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Rusty Dekema wrote: On 4/14/06, Rich Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I believe the TDM2400 has the capability of doing on-card fxo->fxs data flows (without hitting the pci bus), but that function has not yet been implemented. Its basically "required" to support faxes in an analog environment.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Rusty Dekema wrote: > If this works, I don't see why a fax transmission wouldn't work. Is it > because the fax protocol doesn't have error correction? Is that even > true? FAX transmission is massively more complex than modem transmission. At higher speeds, it involves 3 or 4 different 'carrier'

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

On 4/14/06, Rich Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe the TDM2400 has the capability of doing on-card fxo->fxs data > flows (without hitting the pci bus), but that function has not yet been > implemented. Its basically "required" to support faxes in an analog > environment. When it is imp

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Anton Krall wrote: Problem is, how to make sure you system WILL have 100% on zttest before buying the cards.. You need to have stability, compatibility and certainty that what you buy is going to work :( Anybody had similar problems or success stories with sangoma cards? Running zttest on my

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

I believe the TDM2400 has the capability of doing on-card fxo->fxs data flows (without hitting the pci bus), but that function has not yet been implemented. Its basically "required" to support faxes in an analog environment. When it is implemented, that card should work. The TDM400 card will no

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Anton Krall wrote: > I must agree with you. I too buy Digium cards because I want to support the > development of asterisk. Asterisk is a great product but digum cards are a > pain, they say they don't support faxing but a lot of people that are > implementing asterisk "demand" or "need" faxin as a

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing ! | |*shrugs* Ya win some ya lose some. We've spent about 10 grand |plus on Digium cards and have been pretty satisfied with ours |:) Faxes have been working great for over 6 months and the |cards work wonderfully in our Dell servers. They just

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of |Lee Howard |Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:22 PM |To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion |Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing ! | |Tony ROBIN wrote: | |>Now we want to receive fax (< 20/day)

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

I must agree with you. I too buy Digium cards because I want to support the development of asterisk. Asterisk is a great product but digum cards are a pain, they say they don't support faxing but a lot of people that are implementing asterisk "demand" or "need" faxin as a day to day service on thei

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

At least Digium lets you wait in a queue and picks up the phone when you call for support.. with Sangoma the only way to get ahold of someone is to: DIAL: 1-800-388-2475... choose option 2... get message "no one is available" Press * to return to main menu. Dial extension 119. get message " no

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Tony ROBIN wrote: Now we want to receive fax (< 20/day) on it and guess what ? Since April 2006 (again a few months after we bought our brand new card), "officially, fax communications is not supported with Digium cards" ( http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+fax ). Of course, I should have gu

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

*shrugs* Ya win some ya lose some. We've spent about 10 grand plus on Digium cards and have been pretty satisfied with ours :) Faxes have been working great for over 6 months and the cards work wonderfully in our Dell servers. They just need more documentation on the different configuration o

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards, so disappointing !

Buy Sangoma. Good cards. Good support. On Fri, 14 Apr 2006, Tony ROBIN wrote: I am so fed up with Digium cards. My company first owned a TE410P, I installed it in a Dell server and "enjoyed" its instability (we bought it months before Digium warned about the incompatibility issues). Then we