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Mark No problem, it's easy to get confused :) I would, however, take
Mark issue with the GPL being evil. It's not my
So, is Astrisk being changed to an OSI-compliant license without the
anti-patent clause?
Uriel
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Mark No problem, it's easy to get confused :) I would, however, take
Mark issue with the GPL being evil
Mark == Mark Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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Mark No problem, it's easy to get confused :) I would, however, take
Mark issue with the GPL being evil. It's not my *ideal* license,
Mark but it certainly is good enough.
Just for the reference, while we're at it. GPL does have an issue,
I am not a coder hence this question:
If a web interface (similar to vonage account management) gets produced
using PHP/MYSQL to administer
*, does that require licence from Digium if the code is not open source.
Thanks...
Senad
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From the discussion thread, you will notice that the only real answer is to get a
lawyers opinion. And even there the final answer is the judge. So hope for the best
and be prepared for the worst.
It seems no one can agree on this. And even a lawyer would probably be confused. Why?
Because if
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 07:56, costas wrote:
From the discussion thread, you will notice that the only real answer
is to get a lawyers opinion. And even there the final answer is the
judge. So hope for the best and be prepared for the worst.
Or if you wish to write closed source apps, you
If a web interface (similar to vonage account management) gets produced
using PHP/MYSQL to administer
*, does that require licence from Digium if the code is not open source.
If it merely manipulates Asterisk's config files and in no way links to
Asterisk itself, then the choice of licenses is
great, thanks for that.
What if interface triggers CLI commands?
Senad
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Hi,
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 16:40
Alejandro Olchik wrote:
I understand Asterisk have contributions of many
developers and not only from Digium.
When licensing Asterisk from Digium looking other kind
of licence than GPL, what happens with the rights of
other members of this community?
Alejandro
No code is commited to Asterisk
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 09:27, WipeOut wrote:
Alejandro Olchik wrote:
I understand Asterisk have contributions of many
developers and not only from Digium.
When licensing Asterisk from Digium looking other kind
of licence than GPL, what happens with the rights of
other members of this
Steven Critchfield wrote:
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 09:27, WipeOut wrote:
Alejandro Olchik wrote:
I understand Asterisk have contributions of many
developers and not only from Digium.
When licensing Asterisk from Digium looking other kind
of licence than GPL, what happens with the rights of
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 07:38, costas wrote:
I would appreciate some help with this. I read the GPL license and
basically it says you can do whatever you want with the software
(sell, modify) as long as you include the source code, the License and
make any changes you make available in the same
A few answers:
1) if your application is not released to a 3rd party, you do not have
to make the source available
2) if you build your application as a module that loads into a stock
asterisk server, you do not have to disclose your source
3) if you need to make changes to the core in order
Uh. This is *not* how the GPL works. The GPL clearly states that anything
you write that links with GPL will be covered by GPL, and thus if you
release
it in binary form you are also obliged to release it in source form. The
same goes for modules for Asterisk (unless you have a non-GPL license
With that said, if you're writing an application that you
would like to
sell, your IP lawyer should be able to easily decipher the GPL and
advise you as to which parts of your code need to be made public.
How about if I'm connecting Asterisk to a non-GPL software solution as an
add-on in the
costas wrote:
I would appreciate some help with this. I read the GPL license and basically it says
you can do whatever you want with the software (sell, modify) as long as you include
the source code, the License and make any changes you make available in the same
manner to all others.
If you have to link your software with a GPL library or use header files
you have used GPL files and will be required to honor the license. If
you use AGI, the stdin/stdout sufficiently isolates the parts.
I would assume an interface off manager also isolates the parts as well
1) if your application is not released to a 3rd party, you do not have
to make the source available
This is TRUE.
2) if you build your application as a module that loads into a stock
asterisk server, you do not have to disclose your source
This is FALSE. Even modules for Asterisk MUST be
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On Monday 29 September 2003 16:40, Mark Spencer wrote:
2) if you build your application as a module that loads into a stock
asterisk server, you do not have to disclose your source
This is FALSE. Even modules for Asterisk MUST be released under
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 10:44, costas wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if this GPL opens a can of worms bigger than the
one it tries to solve.
Example:
1) No GPL. I pay and buy a library that does something. In simple
terms they let me redistribute the library combined into my code.
Cost: of
2) if you build your application as a module that loads into a stock
asterisk server, you do not have to disclose your source
This is FALSE. Even modules for Asterisk MUST be released under GPL,
unless you obtain a license to release them outside of GPL from Digium.
Just to be on the
Interesting. The GPL is more parasitic than I had originally thought.
Yes.
I was unaware of the 'Linux Exception,' as I'm not a developer, but I
was thinking about how some companies do release binary only modules for
the Linux kernel, and wrongly assumed that this was provided for in the
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 09:40, Mark Spencer wrote:
2) if you build your application as a module that loads into a stock
asterisk server, you do not have to disclose your source
This is FALSE. Even modules for Asterisk MUST be released under GPL,
unless you obtain a license to release them
--- costas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would appreciate some help with this. I read the GPL license and
basically it says you can do whatever you want with the software
(sell, modify) as long as you include the source code, the License
and make any changes you make available in the same
So, if I want to just use Asterisk without worrying, how much does it cost?
I mean is there a cost per installation?
I have enquired about this before(August 03) the current pricing was
us$250/server install..
of course that is prefaced with prices subject to change :)
I would also like some more info on this whole mysql being taken out of
the core asterisk install. I understand its because of the dual lic. that
digium has.. gpl and comercial... why can't mysql be non-existant in the
comercial version. Then mysql would be compatible with asterisk?!? Or am
I
I recall someone saying that hdparm is embeded in the codec and
Registration binaries.. and that is a violation of the GPL. But thats
voiceage's doing. Anyone care to shed some light on this?
bkw
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Eric Wieling wrote:
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 09:40, Mark Spencer wrote:
I ment BSD lic. mybad. :P
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Brian West wrote:
I recall someone saying that hdparm is embeded in the codec and
Registration binaries.. and that is a violation of the GPL. But thats
voiceage's doing. Anyone care to shed some light on this?
bkw
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003,
Maybe we should say RFTM or in this case RTFGPL. If is easy to
see how non-GPL modules could be linked to GPL code. Two methods
come to mind:
(1) If the modual were general purpose in the sense that it COULD be
used with
something other then Asterisk. In other words the modual does not
--- costas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would consider GPL my code.
I am just afraid that if SCO bought Digium then they would claim its
their code and sue everyone. Just because I'm paranoid it doesnt mean
they are not out to get me. :)
It does not matter who buys Digium, Even if SCO or
2) if you build your application as a module that loads into a stock
asterisk server, you do not have to disclose your source
This is FALSE. Even modules for Asterisk MUST be released under GPL,
unless you obtain a license to release them outside of GPL from Digium.
You mean like
I would also like some more info on this whole mysql being taken out of
the core asterisk install. I understand its because of the dual lic. that
digium has.. gpl and comercial... why can't mysql be non-existant in the
comercial version. Then mysql would be compatible with asterisk?!? Or am
Actually it's BSD licensed. I'll try to bring it up with them to get the
copyright notice provided.
Mark
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Brian West wrote:
I recall someone saying that hdparm is embeded in the codec and
Registration binaries.. and that is a violation of the GPL. But thats
voiceage's
1) if your application is not released to a 3rd party, you
do not have
to make the source available
This is TRUE.
2) if you build your application as a module that loads into a stock
asterisk server, you do not have to disclose your source
This is FALSE. Even modules for
Hi,
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 16:40, Mark Spencer wrote:
1) if your application is not released to a 3rd party, you do not have
to make the source available
This is TRUE.
2) if you build your application as a module that loads into a stock
asterisk server, you do not have to disclose
So, if 3rd parties are doing or going to do that, then why not allow
them to do it in a way that doesn't require bypassing proper design?
A third party could then for example start selling G.723 codecs, if they
are prepared to pay the fee that allows them to do so.
We want to promote the
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:23, Jeff Dodge wrote:
So -- If you don't distribute the compiled app to me -- I have no right to
ask you for the source. Even if I pay
you for your custom application and you must provide me with the source
(Upon request!) I have no redistribution rights
to that
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