Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-27 Thread Brad Templeton
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:55:31PM -0500, Jerry wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 12:34:30PM +, Tim Panton wrote: > >> > >> Unless you are monitoring calls, want full CDR etc, > >> then that's what you want anyway. > > > > CDR are not affected by how the audio flows. > > While technically tr

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-27 Thread Jerry
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 12:34:30PM +, Tim Panton wrote: >> >> Unless you are monitoring calls, want full CDR etc, >> then that's what you want anyway. > > CDR are not affected by how the audio flows. While technically true, I believe (it may have changed in 1.4) that if you allow reinvites,

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Brad Templeton
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 12:34:30PM +, Tim Panton wrote: > >For a remote phone, not on the same network as the Asterisk > >box (in which event the NAT worries are different) you definitely > >want to use the same protocol for the phone as for your > >term/orig provider. Otherwise you will be f

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Brad Templeton
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 10:19:06PM -0800, Yuan LIU wrote: > Asterisk1 <--> NAT1 --- { Internet } --- NAT2 <--> Asterisk2 > > If Asterisk1 can talk to Asterisk2 at trunk level, I'll be happy. While I'm not sure of what tricks * plays at all levels, you can certainly make this work if you have cont

RE: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Yuan LIU
From:  "Ken Williams" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Asterisk1 <--> NAT1 --- { Internet } --- NAT2 <--> Asterisk2 is one of>the easiest configs to put together.  Works extremely well and requires>opening a single port on each NAT. Now I realize that I took the wrong assumption that all NAT traversal is blind tr

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Tim Panton
On 26 Jan 2007, at 06:19, Yuan LIU wrote: From: Brad Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have a really dumb question. It appears that Yahoo, MSN, AIM, you name > them, they don't have a NAT problem, and some use SIP. I don't think they > all stay in voice path, either. What takes? When y

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Julio Arruda
Gordon Henderson wrote: On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Yuan LIU wrote: Thanks for this information. Does this mean two IAX boxes can talk behind their respective NAT's (without any server sitting in voice path)? I'm imagining this: Asterisk1 <--> NAT1 --- { Internet } --- NAT2 <--> Asterisk2 Using

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Yuan LIU wrote: Thanks for this information. Does this mean two IAX boxes can talk behind their respective NAT's (without any server sitting in voice path)? I'm imagining this: Asterisk1 <--> NAT1 --- { Internet } --- NAT2 <--> Asterisk2 Using IAX, yes. It's quite str

RE: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Ken Williams
nt: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:19 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions >From: Brad Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I have a really dumb question. It appears that Yahoo, MSN, AIM, you >name > > them, they don't have

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Tim Panton
On 25 Jan 2007, at 06:57, Brad Templeton wrote: On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:59:06AM +, Tim Panton wrote: In the meanwhile, use IAX, which understands about NAT pretty well. If you have multiple SIP phones on a LAN behind a NATing router, just put a small asterisk box on the LAN. It can mana

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-25 Thread Yuan LIU
From: Brad Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have a really dumb question. It appears that Yahoo, MSN, AIM, you name > them, they don't have a NAT problem, and some use SIP. I don't think they > all stay in voice path, either. What takes? When you control both ends of the path, you can elimi

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-25 Thread Brad Templeton
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:09:21PM -0800, Yuan LIU wrote: > >From: Brad Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:59:06AM +, Tim Panton wrote: > >> In the meanwhile, use IAX, which understands about NAT pretty well. > >> If you have multiple SIP phones on a LAN behind a NA

RE: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-25 Thread Robert Jenkins
> -Original Message- > > Gordon Henderson > Sent: 25 January 2007 08:17 > > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Yuan LIU wrote: > > > I have a really dumb question. It appears that Yahoo, MSN, AIM, you > > name them, they don't have a NAT problem, and some use SIP. I don't > > think they all stay

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-25 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Yuan LIU wrote: I have a really dumb question. It appears that Yahoo, MSN, AIM, you name them, they don't have a NAT problem, and some use SIP. I don't think they all stay in voice path, either. What takes? Their SIP servers aren't behind NAT firewalls, so the problem

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-24 Thread Yuan LIU
From: Brad Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:59:06AM +, Tim Panton wrote: > In the meanwhile, use IAX, which understands about NAT pretty well. > If you have multiple SIP phones on a LAN behind a NATing router, just > put a small asterisk box on the LAN. It can manage y

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-24 Thread Brad Templeton
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:59:06AM +, Tim Panton wrote: > In the meanwhile, use IAX, which understands about NAT pretty well. > If you have multiple SIP phones on a LAN behind a NATing router, just > put a small asterisk box on the LAN. It can manage your hairpin > calls internally, save you ba

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-22 Thread Tim Panton
On 21 Jan 2007, at 07:55, Brad Templeton wrote: Some NAT problems you can solve, some you never will. Many modern phones have NAT support in them, via STUN, or a static external IP address. Most NATs also offer port forwarding, so you can open a hole for the SIP port in the NAT so all

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-20 Thread Brad Templeton
Some NAT problems you can solve, some you never will. Many modern phones have NAT support in them, via STUN, or a static external IP address. Most NATs also offer port forwarding, so you can open a hole for the SIP port in the NAT so all outside can reach it. (With port forwarding, you need a c

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-19 Thread Bob Chiodini
Bernardo Vieira wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bernardo, Just a thought: Try using a different SIP port for one of the extensions, if possible. Bob... Bob, Tanks for the tip. I had actually done that before, as a matte of fact that's the solution I have in plac

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-19 Thread Bernardo Vieira
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Bernardo, > > Just a thought: Try using a different SIP port for one of the > extensions, if possible. > > Bob... Bob, Tanks for the tip. I had actually done that before, as a matte of fact that's the solution I have in place now. The thing is, ev

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-19 Thread Bob Chiodini
Bernardo Vieira wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gordon Henderson wrote: If you only have one * box behind the NAT gateway then I don't really see a big issue with it to be honest. Port-forward on the firewall/router device (5060 and 1 through 2) to the * device,

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-19 Thread Bernardo Vieira
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gordon Henderson wrote: > If you only have one * box behind the NAT gateway then I don't really > see a big issue with it to be honest. Port-forward on the > firewall/router device (5060 and 1 through 2) to the * device, > and use STUN on the

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-19 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Voip Asterisk wrote: I know that NAT is something no one really likes to talk about, but does anyone know how work with it elegantly? There are many providers which deal with it on a daily basis in fact they cater to it, is this possible to do with asterisk or does it requi

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-18 Thread Voip Asterisk
What about open sip stack: http://www.opensipstack.org/ ? Use a far end nat traversal appliance. Acmepacket , kagoor and Jasomi are some examples. Leo ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNS

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-18 Thread Leo Ann Boon
Voip Asterisk wrote: I know that NAT is something no one really likes to talk about, but does anyone know how work with it elegantly? There are many providers which deal with it on a daily basis in fact they cater to it, is this possible to do with asterisk or does it require other exotic setu