[ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2011-05-02 Thread Eduard GV
Hi all, Just three questions. I need per-packet SNR information and my first guess was to inspect "last_signal" from debugfs. Values range from -30 to -60. last_signal file should contain signal (dBm) of last received frame (from sta_info.h), right? That explains values obtained. But... 1) This v

Re: [ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2014-01-10 Thread syed
hi, I am facing problem where rs_rssi becomes less for 2.4Ghz band. Other chips beside hear it correctly. What can be possible problem. ___ ath9k-devel mailing list ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org https://lists.ath9k.org/mailman/listinfo/ath9k-devel

Re: [ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2014-01-10 Thread Adrian Chadd
Look at what the NF calibration values are doing over time. rs_rssi is calculated agains tthe noise floor, it's not an absolute signal level. -a On 10 January 2014 02:00, syed wrote: > hi, > I am facing problem where rs_rssi becomes less for 2.4Ghz band. > > Other chips beside hear it correctl

Re: [ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2011-05-03 Thread Alex Hacker
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 02:46:06PM -0700, Eduard GV wrote: > Hi all, > > Just three questions. I need per-packet SNR information and my first > guess was to inspect "last_signal" from debugfs. Values range from -30 > to -60. last_signal file should contain signal (dBm) of last received > frame (fr

Re: [ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2011-05-05 Thread Peizhao Hu
Does this CMOS assumption apply to ath5k as well? I thought ath5k has noise recalibration which tune the noise floor accordingly (which seems to be true from our experiments). In madwifi the noise floor is fixed at -95 or -96, but the ath5k introduces the ani and noise recalibration. But the r

Re: [ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2011-05-05 Thread Alex Hacker
Yes, the AR5416 and so on chips uses the same Athersos CMOS technology and same principle of RSSI/noise measurements. The noise calibration is the process of periodic measuring minimum received power in channel, averaging it and writing back to HW. This averaged value is then used by HW to calcula

Re: [ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2011-05-05 Thread Alex Hacker
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 10:06:07AM +0600, Alex Hacker wrote: > Yes, the AR5416 and so on chips uses the same Athersos CMOS technology and > same principle of RSSI/noise measurements. Sorry, I mean AR52xx/AR5413 chips. ___ ath9k-devel mailing list ath9k-d

Re: [ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2011-05-06 Thread hacker
Yes, the AR5416 and so on chips uses the same Athersos CMOS technology and same principle of RSSI/noise measurements. The noise calibration is the process of periodic measuring minimum received power in channel, averaging it and writing back to HW. This averaged value is then used by HW to calcula

Re: [ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2011-05-17 Thread Eduard GV
Understood, big thank you. However, the noise floor shouldn't take only thermal noise into account. Man-made noise could raise the noise floor more than 6dB in the congested 2.4GHz band (in the 5GHz band it should be lower). By the way, I join the popular demand for having access to CSI data! >

Re: [ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2011-05-19 Thread Alex Hacker
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 05:04:49PM -0700, Eduard GV wrote: > Understood, big thank you. > > However, the noise floor shouldn't take only thermal noise into > account. Man-made noise could raise the noise floor more than 6dB in > the congested 2.4GHz band (in the 5GHz band it should be lower). Yes,

Re: [ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2011-05-19 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 20 May 2011 12:20, Alex Hacker wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 05:04:49PM -0700, Eduard GV wrote: >> Understood, big thank you. >> >> However, the noise floor shouldn't take only thermal noise into >> account. Man-made noise could raise the noise floor more than 6dB in >> the congested 2.4GHz

Re: [ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2011-05-19 Thread Alex Hacker
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:46:12PM +0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > Yes, in Atheros' scheme it raise the NF and lowers RSSI values same manner. > > External noise shouldn't affect absolute RSSI level but it does. > > Well, if the noise is constant, and RSSI is "relative" signal strength > indicator,

Re: [ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2011-06-09 Thread Eduard GV
Hi, What I've learned so far from this thread is that rs_rssi (struct ath_rx_status) is actually an SNR (not an RSSI), in dB. What's not yet clear to me is how is this value obtained. My guess from Alex's explanation is that it is the result of subtracting the gain of the AGC during a short period

Re: [ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2011-06-09 Thread Daniel Halperin
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Eduard GV wrote: > Hi, > > What I've learned so far from this thread is that rs_rssi (struct > ath_rx_status) is actually an SNR (not an RSSI), in dB. RSSI has no clear definition. An SNR is a perfectly valid form of RSSI. > If SNR is computed during packet's prea

Re: [ath9k-devel] More on signal and noise

2012-06-06 Thread MaYongsen
Hello! I notice that the "sample" in "/sys/kernel/debug/ieee80211/phy0/ath9k" report 'ChNoise Chain privNF #Reading Readings' and 'rssi:- ctl0 ctl1 ctl2 ext0 ext1 ext2' at the same time. Anybody can tell me what's the difference and Atheros calculate the rssi in ath9k? Thanks! ___