Re: PaceAttributesNamespace is *not* about syntax!

2005-01-27 Thread Henry Story
Thanks for the reply, Sam. I think the misunderstanding has mostly to do with the fact that we have similar but slightly different aims. We should try to clearly establish our respective aims and find the points we have in common, so that we can agree to solve the points we have in common

Re: PaceAttributesNamespace is *not* about syntax!

2005-01-27 Thread Danny Ayers
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:39:23 -0500, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PaceAttributeNamespace does not do that. All it says is is that a given namespace may be used. For what purpose such a statement is made is entirely unclear. Ok, maybe a little more explanation is needed in the Pace. The

Re: PaceAttributesNamespace is *not* about syntax!

2005-01-27 Thread Bill de hÓra
Henry Story wrote: Graham the Robot [1], when real people come and ask me something I'll talk to them. Rudeness objection. I'm seeing genuine questions; fobbing them off (as above) is not helping your case. cheers Bill

Re: PaceAttributesNamespace is *not* about syntax!

2005-01-27 Thread Sam Ruby
Danny Ayers wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:39:23 -0500, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PaceAttributeNamespace does not do that. All it says is is that a given namespace may be used. For what purpose such a statement is made is entirely unclear. Ok, maybe a little more explanation is needed in

Re: PaceAttributesNamespace is *not* about syntax!

2005-01-27 Thread Henry Story
On 27 Jan 2005, at 15:28, Bill de hÓra wrote: Rudeness objection. One reaps what one sows. [1] I'm seeing genuine questions Since you are asking, I'll answer them. On 26 Jan 2005, at 4:37 pm, Henry Story wrote: I think your assertion is wrong. If they are consuming or producing extended Atom [1]

Re: PaceAttributesNamespace is *not* about syntax!

2005-01-27 Thread Bill de hÓra
Danny Ayers wrote: Yes and no - there is demand for this kind of thing, is the RSS 1.0 community the same as the RDF community? There's a lot of additions around there... Whatever, even with RSS 2.0 there's Easy News Topics and all the stuff associated with media (enclosures + Yahoo's extensions)

Re: PaceAttributesNamespace is *not* about syntax!

2005-01-27 Thread Danny Ayers
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:49:12 +, Bill de hÓra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danny Ayers wrote: Yes and no - there is demand for this kind of thing, is the RSS 1.0 community the same as the RDF community? There's a lot of additions around there... Whatever, even with RSS 2.0 there's Easy

PaceAttributesNamespace is *not* about syntax!

2005-01-26 Thread Danny Ayers
I've added the following note to the Pace: A lot of the critical response to this Pace has been based on the assumption that it is about changes to the Atom syntax. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Within Atom format it will remain mandatory that documents are produced with no-namespace

Re: PaceAttributesNamespace is *not* about syntax!

2005-01-26 Thread Sam Ruby
Danny Ayers wrote: I've added the following note to the Pace: A lot of the critical response to this Pace has been based on the assumption that it is about changes to the Atom syntax. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Within Atom format it will remain mandatory that documents are produced

Re: PaceAttributesNamespace is *not* about syntax!

2005-01-26 Thread Antone Roundy
On Wednesday, January 26, 2005, at 07:03 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: Let's assume that there will be a non-normative appendix which describes the mapping of the Atom/XML syntax to RDF triples (possibly via a mapping to RDF/XML or possibly directly). Clearly, such an appendix would need to define a

Re: PaceAttributesNamespace is *not* about syntax!

2005-01-26 Thread Henry Story
On 26 Jan 2005, at 15:03, Sam Ruby wrote: [...] But, now lets examine the statement proposed in PaceAttributeNamespace. It essentially alerts producers of something that that they need to be aware of. Now a quesion: what do they need do different with the knowledge that the RDF mapping does

Re: PaceAttributesNamespace is *not* about syntax!

2005-01-26 Thread Henry Story
Graham the Robot [1], when real people come and ask me something I'll talk to them. Henry On 26 Jan 2005, at 18:01, Graham wrote: On 26 Jan 2005, at 4:37 pm, Henry Story wrote: I think your assertion is wrong. If they are consuming or producing extended Atom [1] they will know exactly what

Re: PaceAttributesNamespace is *not* about syntax!

2005-01-26 Thread Sam Ruby
Henry Story wrote: On 26 Jan 2005, at 15:03, Sam Ruby wrote: [...] But, now lets examine the statement proposed in PaceAttributeNamespace. It essentially alerts producers of something that that they need to be aware of. Now a quesion: what do they need do different with the knowledge that the