Re: atom:modified indicates temporal ORDER not version....

2005-05-23 Thread Henry Story
I just found an excellent article on the subject of identity: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/identity/ It is heavy reading. But it does give an excellent overview of the subject. I can't say that I managed in a couple of hours to fully digest all the information in there. Henry On 22

Re: atom:modified indicates temporal ORDER not version....

2005-05-21 Thread Robert Sayre
On 5/21/05, Henry Story <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 22 May 2005, at 02:27, Robert Sayre wrote: > > On 5/21/05, Bob Wyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Robert Sayre wrote: > >> > >>> Temporal order of what? They are all the same entry, so what is it > >>> you are temporally ordering? > >>>

Re: atom:modified indicates temporal ORDER not version....

2005-05-21 Thread Henry Story
On 22 May 2005, at 02:27, Robert Sayre wrote: On 5/21/05, Bob Wyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Sayre wrote: Temporal order of what? They are all the same entry, so what is it you are temporally ordering? We are discussing the temporal ordering of multiple non- identical *ins

Re: atom:modified indicates temporal ORDER not version....

2005-05-21 Thread Robert Sayre
On 5/21/05, Bob Wyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Sayre wrote: > > Temporal order of what? They are all the same entry, so what is it > > you are temporally ordering? > We are discussing the temporal ordering of multiple non-identical > *instances* of a single Atom entry. It is com

RE: atom:modified indicates temporal ORDER not version....

2005-05-21 Thread Bob Wyman
Robert Sayre wrote: > Temporal order of what? They are all the same entry, so what is it > you are temporally ordering? We are discussing the temporal ordering of multiple non-identical *instances* of a single Atom entry. It is common in the realm of software engineering to deal with this

Re: atom:modified indicates temporal ORDER not version....

2005-05-21 Thread Henry Story
On 22 May 2005, at 01:27, Robert Sayre wrote: On 5/21/05, Bob Wyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Sayre wrote: So, it's about disambiguating versions of an entry, right? No. It has nothing to do with "versions" or even "variants." I have explained that on numerous occasions.

Re: atom:modified indicates temporal ORDER not version....

2005-05-21 Thread Robert Sayre
On 5/21/05, Bob Wyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Sayre wrote: > > So, it's about disambiguating versions of an entry, right? > No. It has nothing to do with "versions" or even "variants." I have > explained that on numerous occasions. The denial of relevance to the issue > of "ver

RE: atom:modified indicates temporal ORDER not version....

2005-05-21 Thread Bob Wyman
Robert Sayre wrote: > So, it's about disambiguating versions of an entry, right? No. It has nothing to do with "versions" or even "variants." I have explained that on numerous occasions. The denial of relevance to the issue of "version" is even in the title of this thread. Read: "atom:modi

Re: atom:modified indicates temporal ORDER not version....

2005-05-21 Thread Robert Sayre
On 5/21/05, Bob Wyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wrote: > >> I believe this was communicated when I wrote: > >> "Atom should support atom:modified to permit the temporal-ordering of > >> members of sets that share the same atom:id and atom:updated values." > > Robert Sayre wrote: > >

RE: atom:modified indicates temporal ORDER not version....

2005-05-21 Thread Bob Wyman
I wrote: >> I believe this was communicated when I wrote: >> "Atom should support atom:modified to permit the temporal-ordering of >> members of sets that share the same atom:id and atom:updated values." Robert Sayre wrote: > No, that's not what you communicated. How can I temporally orde

Re: atom:modified indicates temporal ORDER not version....

2005-05-21 Thread Robert Sayre
On 5/21/05, Bob Wyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Sayre wrote: > > What does atom:id have to do with temporal ordering? > Absolutely nothing. > Atom:id is used to identify sets of entry instances which, according > to the Atom specification, should be considered "the same e

RE: atom:modified indicates temporal ORDER not version....

2005-05-21 Thread Bob Wyman
Robert Sayre wrote: > What does atom:id have to do with temporal ordering? Absolutely nothing. Atom:id is used to identify sets of entry instances which, according to the Atom specification, should be considered "the same entry". Sets composed of instances of "the same entry" can t

Re: atom:modified indicates temporal ORDER not version....

2005-05-21 Thread Eric Scheid
On 22/5/05 7:49 AM, "Robert Sayre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Atom should support atom:modified to permit the temporal-ordering of >> members of sets that share the same atom:id and atom:updated values. This >> has nothing to do with versioning. > > What does atom:id have to do with t

Re: atom:modified indicates temporal ORDER not version....

2005-05-21 Thread Robert Sayre
On 5/21/05, Bob Wyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Sayre wrote: > Atom should support atom:modified to permit the temporal-ordering of > members of sets that share the same atom:id and atom:updated values. This > has nothing to do with versioning. What does atom:id have to do with