Re: a suggestion for mainstream RPGS that is playable

Re: a suggestion for mainstream RPGS that is playable Hello Hanif.Well you could try both odin sphere and sacred citadel they are both rpgs. As for final fantasy I have no idea as far as I know none of these games are accessible. There aren't that many accessible rpgs out there the 2 I gave

Re: PS4 accessibility features

Re: PS4 accessibility features I'm curious... is anyone actually part of planning on subscribing to the beta program and trying this? I don't have any ps4 otherwise I'd do it myself. lol URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208060#p208060 _

Re: Braillemon status update!

Re: Braillemon status update! Hi RachelI have a question about the lan.ini file.I have almost finished traslating it at present, but some lines of the "[Pokemon_Menu]" aprear in english, even if they are translated in the file.Here are the file.https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31583773/l

Does Anybody Watch The Show Mike And Molly?

Does Anybody Watch The Show Mike And Molly? Hello Everyone.Recently I started watching mike and molly and I like it a lot. I started out not liking melissa mccarthy but now I like her a lot. So if you do watch it what do you think of it? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=2

Re: MessApple, Or, The Return Of Apple2E For the VIP!

Re: MessApple, Or, The Return Of Apple2E For the VIP! Hi Arabic Two Thousand.Well I don't think you want a referral for a folder that isn't being worked on. Just get messapple and enjoy that disks that are included. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208057#p208057

Re: Do Popular Screen Readers Read Text From Flash Webpages?

Re: Do Popular Screen Readers Read Text From Flash Webpages? Hello Mcallon5538.Welcome to the forum! No it can't but using standard html stuff will work. I don't know why there isn't an access fix for this, companies have had plenty of time to figure this kind of thing out.Anyway mcallon, g

Re: Is Learning 2 Programming languages at once possible?

Re: Is Learning 2 Programming languages at once possible? Hello Camlorn.I sent you a pm it explains everything. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208055#p208055 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabah

Re: Is Learning 2 Programming languages at once possible?

Re: Is Learning 2 Programming languages at once possible? Possible? yes.  But really it depends on you.  If you know one language well, new languages are something like a few hours.  If you've never mastered one, it might be a struggle because you're trying to master programming at the same

Re: UltraPower

Re: UltraPower I'm going to give my 2 sence on the matter and please listen, this won't be flaming one bit.I had loged into ultra power to have a good time, mayby kill a few people. Mason and I were having a good chat and talking. However, one thing which grately annoyed me was being onesho

Re: a suggestion for mainstream RPGS that is playable

Re: a suggestion for mainstream RPGS that is playable I think ff13 is playable up to a point. Once you get to a certain point it becomes open world. Can't speak for ff 13-2/3 though. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208052#p208052 _

Re: IOS audiogames: any suggestions?

Re: IOS audiogames: any suggestions? Hello Daniel.Well I think there are a lot of good suggestions here but I'll give you a few more.Zombies run, audiorun, blindrunner, stem stumper, worder, wordzinga, blindside, blindscape, and if your into muds get mudrammer or pocketmud to play games on

Re: Death match a new beginning, online roleplaying science fiction MMO

Re: Death match a new beginning, online roleplaying science fiction MMO Yay dmnb is back up! I almost wish it wasn't only because I played way too much today lol. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208050#p208050 ___ Audiogame

Is Learning 2 Programming languages at once possible?

Is Learning 2 Programming languages at once possible? Hi.Well I am working on learning python but I also need to learn pure basic. So I was wondering has anyone tried to learn 2 languages at once and if so is this possible?Pure basic is my priority right now so I might end up dropping pytho

Re: PS4 accessibility features

Re: PS4 accessibility features I've got twitter, and I'll go right on there and send playstation a tweet. Remember guys, this is a huge Wright brothers moment for us, so what ever you do, give them feedback and advice, but for heaven't sake be kind. We don't want to push them away. I'm goin

Re: UltraPower

Re: UltraPower well, good by up... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208047#p208047 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: MessApple, Or, The Return Of Apple2E For the VIP!

Re: MessApple, Or, The Return Of Apple2E For the VIP! Hello can you imvite me for the dropvox folder? My email is: luiscarlo...@hotmail.esand the limnk for the apple.exe menu is brockeng or what is the word because I didn't studdy english so where is it or where is it or where is it or wher

Re: Three Monkeys

Re: Three Monkeys I'm sorry, but that doesn't make much sense to me.Maybe Kickstarter sets a hard one-month limit. That's fair enough. But couldn't the devs have just made four or more smaller projects instead of going all-or-nothing trying to get nearly thirty thousand pounds from a pretty

Re: beatstar soundpacks!

Re: beatstar soundpacks! Hello,At the moment, rhithm heaven and sonic v2 outright refuse to download in the built-in pack downloader. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208044#p208044 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audi

Re: pyglet audiogame examples

Re: pyglet audiogame examples Yeah. Pyglet does "lazy" imports.  I consider this stupid.  You can import pyglet.window and you can import pyglet.app but, honestly, it's pretty clear from the context that something is going on and you should look it up.  Still, meh. Really bad practice.As fo

Re: UltraPower

Re: UltraPower this is what I have to say about ultra power:yeah, no thankyou. I think I'll use that freed disk space on the Vundo virus, should I need to choose for some reason.People of level 11125 who can basically fire devistating shots every single microsecond? A whole bunch of admins

Re: IOS audiogames: any suggestions?

Re: IOS audiogames: any suggestions? Thanks very much for the response guys.I'm just looking for some general suggestions--as I've just gotten a new iPod, and I didn't want to be putting games and stuff on my phone.General suggestions are great for now--the fantastic sugggestions you guys g

Re: UltraPower

Re: UltraPower but not to me URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208041#p208041 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audio

Re: pyglet audiogame examples

Re: pyglet audiogame examples I am going to start making a game now, so perhaps it will become more clear.What I mean by implicit is that in the code:import pygletwindow = pyglet.window.Window()pyglet.app.run()has no code telling me that the window is attached to app. For that matter, I hav

Re: Braillemon status update!

Re: Braillemon status update! Cool! Looking for the pass will give me something to do at least. haha URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208037#p208037 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucuk

Re: Death match a new beginning, online roleplaying science fiction MMO

Re: Death match a new beginning, online roleplaying science fiction MMO Ethin, when its a private matter in the comments file, yes! Didn't anyone ever teach you not to go stick things where they don't belong? To the rest of you, I deeply apoligize for this matter, and I intend to try and so

Re: pyglet audiogame examples

Re: pyglet audiogame examples I don't know what you're doing with events, but either there's a major bug that I haven't found out yet, the programming guide is lying, or you're doing something wrong.  Have you read this section of it?As for the variables, well, yes.  There sort of is.  The

Re: Death match a new beginning, online roleplaying science fiction MMO

Re: Death match a new beginning, online roleplaying science fiction MMO Look, Danny. I'm sorry about this. I just specified two names and people got pissed at me. What's so wrong with naming people who started or ended something. I'm not namecalling. I'm just saying things. Is that illegal?

Re: Online game in bgt!

Re: Online game in bgt! I'm not saying you can't.  I'm saying most players.  I have been very careful to use the word most players.I am on university internet and therefore get 2 or 3 MS to Google who, judging by this number, probably has a datacenter near me.  If you're on a university net

Re: beatstar, nintendo vocal tracks

Re: beatstar, nintendo vocal tracks Oh, sorry. I forgot about that one.It's called "Little Mack's confession" and its a remix of the punchout main theme done by a rock band called game over.I think you might still be able to find it on www.ocremix.org.One-winged Angel is the original one fr

Re: beatstar, nintendo vocal tracks

Re: beatstar, nintendo vocal tracks Oh, sorry. I forgot about that one.It's called "Little Mack's confession" and its a remix of the punchout main theme done by a rock band called game over.I think you might still be able to find it on www.ocremix.org. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/view

Re: beatstar soundpacks!

Re: beatstar soundpacks! Hay. Ogomez92, for some reason the sonic_v2 and Janas_pack still don't work.the janas pack still doesn't play any sound, and my sonic_v2 still won't download. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208032#p208032

Re: a sweet return

Re: a sweet return get in line. My attempt cost me 20. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208031#p208031 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-

Re: Death match a new beginning, online roleplaying science fiction MMO

Re: Death match a new beginning, online roleplaying science fiction MMO @camlorn Thanks for the compliments, I do try to stay as com as I can with these sorts of situations. @ethin [[wow]], dude, and this is why, I kicked you out of reality software. This is why no one want's you back in re

Re: a sweet return

Re: a sweet return The scope upgrades appear to not be costing me any points for some reason, or I'm not getting a message to say that  I can't buy them yet or anything. Also is there a way to complete the wax phantom boss without losing a ridiculous number of lives? My attempt cost me 7.

Re: Online game in bgt!

Re: Online game in bgt! How do you explain that I get less than 50ms ping in some professional games (using servers in countries around mine of course) And with a powerful connection (university) I can get around 5ms on some servers. yes it looks incredible but it is a fact URL: http://for

Re: Online game in bgt!

Re: Online game in bgt! How do you explain that I get less than 50ms ping in some professional games (using servers in countries around mine of course) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208028#p208028 ___ Audiogames-reflector

Re: Three Monkeys

Re: Three Monkeys I'll remove it from my Dropbox then. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208027#p208027 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

Re: pyglet audiogame examples

Re: pyglet audiogame examples OK, that is a little more of what I normally would do, have something like:def on_key_down(key, mods): if key == player.key_list['jump']:   player.jump()That way we cut out half of the code for the model tick function.I have been reading pyglet's API and code b

Re: your_adventure alpha version 3 released

Re: your_adventure alpha version 3 released hello folks,i have great news. i can announce that tomorrow morning the first patch ill be released. i will it via this way:1. i will post a rar file,2. in this file will be a sounds folder with the two added sounds, a new .exe file, the read me a

Re: your_adventure alpha version 3 released

Re: your_adventure alpha version 3 released hello folks,i have great news. i can announce that tomorrow morning the first patch ill be released. i will it via this ay:1. i will post a rar file,2. in this file will be a sounds folder with the two added sounds, a new .exe file, the read me an

Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars

Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars Greetings!We're working on a system of sailboats, with which you could go fishing.We're also working on hunting on the Earth with hunting rifles and various types of animals, you could then use butcher knives to carve the meat from the corpses and eat the me

Re: Online game in bgt!

Re: Online game in bgt! It's not BGT.  They're all about that slow.  Sometimes you can get faster, and many players will usually be down around 100-200 MS even with TCP, but that's only for people near your server geographically and on good high-end internet plans.Basically, the speed of el

Re: beatstar soundpacks!

Re: beatstar soundpacks! Props to the person who created mini music... I just tried it and it is every bit as hard as people told me it would be. I somehow managed to get to level 6 without any safeguards after trying it probably at least 30 times. That probably isn't gonna happen very ofte

Re: x wing patrol

Re: x wing patrol Hello,I don't know if he game actually gets harder as you go along, but I didn't think it did. It is, however, nice if you want to blast some bad guys in a basic way. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208021#p208021 ___

Re: a suggestion for mainstream RPGS that is playable

Re: a suggestion for mainstream RPGS that is playable hmm. try oden's spear.. i think this is aksesible. i ever heard some one recording about this game.this game in playstation 2. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208020#p208020 ___

Re: Braillemon status update!

Re: Braillemon status update! Fuchsia city will be included in the next update, including access to surf, fly and strength, for sure. I've currently been working on Route 12. It's a long route so for optimization purposes I had to split it into two halves.Oh, and this will mean for sure you

Re: GMA Games, What's coming up in 2015

Re: GMA Games, What's coming up in 2015 I couldn't agree more with post 31, themadviolinist.I've been dreaming of a Lone Wolf 4 release for ages now, and I surely hope it has more then just bug fixes. Back in the day a lot of ideas were kicked about like perhaps David would set up a more [t

Re: Braillemon status update!

Re: Braillemon status update! Fuchsia city will be included in the next update, including access to surf, fly and strength, for sure. I've currently been working on Route 12. It's a long route so for optimization purposes I had to split it into two halves.Oh, and this will mean for sure you

Re: Online game in bgt!

Re: Online game in bgt! Why is BGT network so slow, even with unreliable packets (UDP) ? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208018#p208018 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com htt

Re: IOS audiogames: any suggestions?

Re: IOS audiogames: any suggestions? It depends upon what your looking for. King of a dragon pass and Star traders elite are fantastic and complex rpgs, while a Dark room and The ensign are slightly easier rpgs to get the knack of but great to play. While the choiceofgames and hosted games

Re: x wing patrol

Re: x wing patrol Hello.Great. I'm downloading it now. It's a small game but it sounds very fun for playing in small break times. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208016#p208016 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogam

Re: beatstar soundpacks!

Re: beatstar soundpacks! the soundpack that I like the most is the pop packs, the geometry dash pack, and I also like the nintendo pack.for the nintendo pack, what is the track title on the 9th level? it seams to me it's taken from a fishing game or something like that. URL: http://forum.a

Re: a suggestion for mainstream RPGS that is playable

Re: a suggestion for mainstream RPGS that is playable but someone said that final fantasy XIII is playable.how about the other one? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208013#p208013 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiog

Re: beatstar soundpacks!

Re: beatstar soundpacks! The pack has to be reviewed first. This is not done by a computer, so it might take a while. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208014#p208014 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: pyglet audiogame examples

Re: pyglet audiogame examples The first one you have is probably more applicable to side-scrollers.  The second one is probably more applicable to an RTS.  They're both right.A few things can make it simpler:Everything that can move has a velocity attribute.  Every tick, whatever is in char

Re: a suggestion for mainstream RPGS that is playable

Re: a suggestion for mainstream RPGS that is playable None that I've found, though others may have suggestions... I'd be curious as well. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208011#p208011 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: beatstar soundpacks!

Re: beatstar soundpacks! hi all, i just passed this error and my sound pack is ready! i am uploaded it but when my friend presses the download new soundpacks from the main menu of the game my pack not appeared. what i have to do? i uploaded my pack from the site but not appears. please help

Re: pyglet audiogame examples

Re: pyglet audiogame examples Oh thanks, that website will be super helpful.So you have the game code in the model in tick that says something like:if flags.jump: player.jump() flags.jump = FalseIn the control or client you have:key_dict = {"run_forward": "up", "run_right": "right", "jump":

a suggestion for mainstream RPGS that is playable

a suggestion for mainstream RPGS that is playable hi, since this genre has many categories, can you suggest which action or console based mainstream RPG that is playable?I want something like final fantasy, xenosaga and all it's series, and many more RPGS.any of them that is playable, espec

Re: a sweet return

Re: a sweet return Nina0116, I forgot to include the level36.ogg file that I fixed in the candy crashers audio files.I'm sending you a Pm with the link to it now. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208007#p208007 ___ Audiogame

Re: Beatstar discussion

Re: Beatstar discussion Ogomez92, please check your PM inbox for the source files for one of your sound packs I updated.All that's needed are the sound effects from your original pack. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208006#p208006 ___

Re: beatstar soundpacks!

Re: beatstar soundpacks! Ogomez92, please check your PM inbox for the source files for one of your sound packs I updated.They just need your sound efects from the original pack. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208005#p208005 __

Re: Braillemon status update!

Re: Braillemon status update! Fuchsia city will be included in the next update, including access to surf, fly and strength, for sure. I've currently been working on Route 12. It's a long route so for optimization purposes I had to split it into two halves.Oh, and this will mean for sure you

Re: Braillemon status update!

Re: Braillemon status update! Fuchsia city will be included in the next update, including access to surf, fly and strength, for sure. I've currently been working on Route 12. It's a long route so for optimization purposes I had to split it into two halves.Oh, and this will mean for sure you

Re: IOS audiogames: any suggestions?

Re: IOS audiogames: any suggestions? hi daniel, my recommendations for audio games on the IOS are:1. audio archery: it's an archery game made by l-works. in this game you must try to score equal as the target or more than the target score. this game has 10 rounds, if you can pass all the ro

Re: IOS audiogames: any suggestions?

Re: IOS audiogames: any suggestions? applevis.com has a list of all of them but here are a few to get u startedsixth sensesoul trappernight jarlord of knightssolara I think its calledhanging with friendstrivia crackbluff warsdice worldhave fun URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php

Re: Steampunk Neverland - Zelda-esque RPG

Re: Steampunk Neverland - Zelda-esque RPG Gyro22, I did indeed get a reply. Thanks for checking back on that. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=208001#p208001 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahat

Re: Steampunk Neverland - Zelda-esque RPG

Re: Steampunk Neverland - Zelda-esque RPG Hello,This sounds really cool. How on Earth did you manage to get someone from Dragon Age involved? That is very nice indeed. It would be interesting if both Dark and the person from Dragon Age both get a voice part, I think these two playing off ea

Re: x wing patrol

Re: x wing patrol Hello,haha, I can see that some of you are excited. Well, fear not, because I have x-wing patrol, but I can go one better, in fact, I already have. In this 10 mb 7-zip file I've put chopper and x-wing patrol.http://aaron.tdrealms.com/files/chopper … and_mod.7z URL: http:/

Re: beatstar soundpacks!

Re: beatstar soundpacks! hello all, so i created my first pack, but when i am running the game the logo playes and then, the game crashes. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=207998#p207998 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Roadsplat is back!

Re: Roadsplat is back! @Tikki the reason for that is because the game doesn't have a million sound. You probably had somewhere around 5 million roadcoins when that happened. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=207997#p207997 __

Re: Three Monkeys

Re: Three Monkeys Sorry, no go. Dropbox says it can't find it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=207996#p207996 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.

Re: I have an FTP server finally

Re: I have an FTP server finally Hi,You could've asked me for this, as I have my own web site with unlimited disk space. I could set up an FTP account on the web site, but I would definitely add restrictions. Logging in as admin is a very dangerous thing to allow the public to do. URL: htt

Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars

Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars Awesome! I have to say, this game rocks! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=207994#p207994 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: UltraPower

Re: UltraPower I will do it.thanks!Also, a friend is admin and He unbanned me. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=207993#p207993 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabah

Re: pyglet audiogame examples

Re: pyglet audiogame examples Well, it doesn't have to be queues.  And in all honesty, allowing the game to play sounds directly isn't horrible.  I'm going to go into my current project a bit.  This is advanced, and you don't have to do it this way.  You probably shouldn't go this far unles

Re: Do Popular Screen Readers Read Text From Flash Webpages?

Re: Do Popular Screen Readers Read Text From Flash Webpages? Yep? HTML5 is the way to go. Flash in my Oppinion, should just "fall!" URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=207991#p207991 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiog

Re: Do Popular Screen Readers Read Text From Flash Webpages?

Re: Do Popular Screen Readers Read Text From Flash Webpages? Thanks for your reply, camlorn. I had a feeling that would be an issue, as the text in Flash movies is normally not selectable. Much appreciated! Mike C URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=207990#p207990 __

Re: Do Popular Screen Readers Read Text From Flash Webpages?

Re: Do Popular Screen Readers Read Text From Flash Webpages? Short answer?  No.Long answer?  If you figure out flash accessibility and specifically use it which no one does, but it still depends greatly on the screen reader and the browser.  It also depends on the phase of the moon.  Don't

Do Popular Screen Readers Read Text From Flash Webpages?

Do Popular Screen Readers Read Text From Flash Webpages? Hi all. I'm new to the community here, and I am interested in creating games for those who are blind. I'm just wondering if the more common screen readers are able to read text that's embedded in flash movies? Thanks for your time! Mi

IOS audiogames: any suggestions?

IOS audiogames: any suggestions? Hi guys,I'm just wondering if anyone has any audiogames for IOS that they recommend?Just wondering as I'm looking into trying and/or purchousing some.Any suggestions would be great.Thanks,Daniel URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=207987#p207

Re: Braillemon status update!

Re: Braillemon status update! At whoever asked how I bred Eevees. I was extremely fortunate to get a female Eevee on my second try at the prize corner. She is a treasure. I now have a male Vaporeon at LV 46 thanks to her, and he currently knows Water Gun, Aurora Beam, Haze and Bite. I sto

Re: Tactical Battle 2.0

Re: Tactical Battle 2.0 GAH WHY.I'm playing the Axis and Allies map in Age of Warlords, and I BLOODY CAN'T KEEP THE DIPLOMATS ALIVE LONG ENOUGH TO GET EVERYWHERE. I've tried getting my Maven to give them both the ability to fly for a bit, and that got one of them as far as the Centa

Re: Swamp Campaign Scripting (SCS)

Re: Swamp Campaign Scripting (SCS) Should I delete some of that other code for the timer including the countdown variable? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=207984#p207984 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-refl

Re: pyglet audiogame examples

Re: pyglet audiogame examples Does the model queue events onto both the view's queue and the controller's queue?Then both the controller and view run through the items in their prospective queues either every loop (for view) or when an action is pressed (for the controller view)?BTW, what t

Re: UltraPower

Re: UltraPower feel freeto add me  in skype  terminator. it isvlad.ciotescuandi will tell you a seckret URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=207982#p207982 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gu