Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford 7510 MK V and Sb2

2007-08-14 Thread DaHood
I own a Beresford MK3 and it is awesome. My SB3 is plugged through it via optical (The COAX does not work on my SB3 and I can't be bothered to send the unit to the States for repair). Stanley Beresford's DAC have made a whole lot of difference I believe. I can hear greater detail, tighter bass

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford 7510 MK V and Sb2

2007-08-14 Thread signor_rossi
I own a MK V and while I can hear a difference in some songs and now listen only through it and enjoy it I haven't made a final judgment yet, but would say that the Beresford certainly isn't a step back. ;) Once I have set up the speakers right (position/decent cables) I will do more a accurate

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford 7510 MK V and Sb2

2007-08-14 Thread bossanova808
signor_rossi;220652 Wrote: I own a MK V and while I can hear a difference in some songs and now listen only through it and enjoy it I haven't made a final judgment yet, but would say that the Beresford certainly isn't a step back. ;) Once I have set up the speakers right (position/decent

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford 7510 MK V and Sb2

2007-08-14 Thread signor_rossi
The background noie is there only for few moments, after that I have no disturbances whatsoever on the speakers, even with high volume and no music playing.I will get a new power supply, but that task is not as trivial as it seems here in Italy (most available can provide only less than

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford 7510 MK V and Sb2

2007-08-14 Thread zanash
that sounds like the caps charging ? if you feel its an issue ...turn the dac on prior to starting up the other items the berrisford will benefit from a better psu [bigger transformer] just like the sb3... the ones supplied are just big enough to get the job done ...with no extra

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Upgrading the Power Supply

2007-08-14 Thread darrenyeats
darrenyeats;210803 Wrote: Phil, Although in theory the SB3 should sound the same (or better) than my Monarchy as a transport, to my ears it doesn't. snip I have tested this to death. The more I listen, the more I hear the Monarchy is better. tonyptony;210947 Wrote: BAM! Darren, that's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Musiland Great March II DAC

2007-08-14 Thread zanash
I can vouch for the effectiveness of the src in this role...IMO it should sound worse than with just one dac up stream of the sb3 ...but it doesn't... I've no experience of the great march dac -- zanash Acoustician and builder of interesting cables

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread darrenyeats
opaqueice;220434 Wrote: Scores of either 4-0 or 0-4 will happen by chance 1 in every 8 times, which is unlikely but not enough to be sure there's something really there. Opaqueice, I agree the point about whether the SB3 is really better than the Monarchy is statistically unproved. Sunday's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread opaqueice
darrenyeats;220703 Wrote: Opaqueice, I agree the point about whether the SB3 is really better than the Monarchy is statistically unproved. Sunday's tests did prove one thing for me, though. I thought my CD transport sounded consistently better than the SB3, and now I can be sure that's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread Robin Bowes
Patrick Dixon wrote: opaqueice;220730 Wrote: Yeah, absolutely, it does demonstrate that, and it's very useful information.My view is that it absolutely doesn't do this reliably! I think the only thing you can reliably determine from a A/B test (blind or otherwise), is whether you can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread opaqueice
Patrick Dixon;220735 Wrote: My view is that it absolutely doesn't do this reliably! I think the only thing you can reliably determine from a A/B test (blind or otherwise), is whether you can determine a difference. You need to listen over a longer period, with a wider, more representative

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread Patrick Dixon
opaqueice;220742 Wrote: If he thought while doing a sighted A/B comparison that the CD player sounded significantly better in some aspects, and then in a later blind test preferred the SB instead 4/4 times, that clearly invalidates the original impression. You don't seem to be disputing

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread Patrick Dixon
Robin Bowes;220741 Wrote: Patrick Dixon wrote: opaqueice;220730 Wrote: Yeah, absolutely, it does demonstrate that, and it's very useful information.My view is that it absolutely doesn't do this reliably! I think the only thing you can reliably determine from a A/B test (blind or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread Robin Bowes
Patrick Dixon wrote: opaqueice;220742 Wrote: There may or may not be subtle differences (and as we all know, you have a financial and vested interest in convincing us there are). What is certain is that there are other changes which can be made to the system - speakers, speaker placement,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread Patrick Dixon
darrenyeats;220770 Wrote: Patrick, I think he was agreeing with you? Yes - that was just my little joke. darrenyeats;220770 Wrote: But I am cautious: the blind test said nothing about whether the SB+ or Transporter will blow away my SB3+ps/DAC combo. If we're about to have a discussion

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread darrenyeats
Robin Bowes;220769 Wrote: I firmly believe that the source is important - as important if not more so than the other factors you mention. I find that my ears can adjust to relatively major deficiencies such as imperfect frequency response, but I can't listen to a poor digital source

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread Robin Bowes
darrenyeats wrote: I am also not in the all digital sources are the same camp. Nevertheless, I am in the if you can't tell blind then you can't be sure camp. can't be sure of what? R. ___ audiophiles mailing list

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread darrenyeats
Patrick Dixon;220773 Wrote: Yes - that was just my little joke. D'oh. Patrick Dixon;220773 Wrote: No that wasn't my point at all. I think what was significant about your test was that you were reasonably consistent (within the limits stated elsewhere here) at telling one source from

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread darrenyeats
Robin Bowes;220779 Wrote: darrenyeats wrote: I am also not in the all digital sources are the same camp. Nevertheless, I am in the if you can't tell blind then you can't be sure camp. can't be sure of what? R. Well, I didn't mean that a switching A/B blind test can make me

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread opaqueice
Sorry to drag the SB+ into it. It's not relevant and it wasn't my intention to bring it up. I don't have any agenda other than to produce the highest fidelity sound with my system, and to understand why. On this issue of long-term versus short-term A/B comparisons, there is some research on

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread Robin Bowes
darrenyeats wrote: Robin Bowes;220779 Wrote: darrenyeats wrote: I am also not in the all digital sources are the same camp. Nevertheless, I am in the if you can't tell blind then you can't be sure camp. can't be sure of what? R. Well, I didn't mean that a switching A/B blind test can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread Robin Bowes
Patrick Dixon wrote: Robin, I can only assume you are selling something too. Just for the record Patrick, I got your little joke. Heh, must be an english sense of humour! R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread Phil Leigh
darrenyeats;220785 Wrote: ...if you can't tell blind then you can't be sure what is heard sighted is free of influence from expectation, prejudice, peer pressure, suggestion etc. Remove this possibility, and you are left with the truth. Darren Actually, what you are left with is (still)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread darrenyeats
Phil wrote: Actually, what you are left with is (still) your opinion - there is no absolute truth here. Your ear/brain combo is deciding which you prefer. Others may decide differently. The key point is that your opinion is unfettered by bias etc. Agreed :-) -- darrenyeats Monarchy

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-14 Thread adamslim
Robin Bowes;220790 Wrote: I don't like DBT. I don't think it is an appropriate way to choose audio gear. Extended listening is the way to go. Who cares if A is better than B - the only important thing is whether you can live with whichever one you choose. So, listen to A for a long time.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Snap, Crackle and Pop

2007-08-14 Thread IvanSlade
Now this I do not understand. I play jazz over sqeeNetwork and it sounds great. Radio Iowa(?) I play pandora sounds OK. I play my CDs ripped and raw. The net sounds better even though I have high quality gear. Same preamp Tact XP (room corrected), 2 x 400 Watt Alner Hamblin amps. Mains filters

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Airport Express vs. SB3

2007-08-14 Thread lextek
Wondering if any one has compared the SB3 to the Airport Express? Just using the built-in DACs. -- lextek lextek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12660 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link DAC III - Oh, my!!!!

2007-08-14 Thread mark-e-mark
Just got one from Audiogon and can't wait to set it up with my SB3, MF integrated, and AP Sparks. -- mark-e-mark mark-e-mark's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4726 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link DAC III - Oh, my!!!!

2007-08-14 Thread jmourik
Sometimes I wish my ears were better, sometimes I'm glad they're not! I had a DLIII in my system for a couple of weeks, and although I did like the sound, I wasn't blown away. I'm always jealous of people who do have that OMG...OMG..WOW experience! I returned my DLIII. One evening just after I