Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Affordable Audio review of SB3

2007-10-04 Thread Phil Leigh
Pretty much any headphones are capable of revealing more about a recording than speakers can. You can hear things on phones that simply are not apparent otherwise, which is why they are an invaluable recording/mastering tool. As far as the limitations of the Stax set that I own...you might accuse

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bits vs. Hertz - Bit depth or sampling rate more important for audio?

2007-10-04 Thread darrenyeats
IMO the analogy between digital photos and music encoding is resolution=sample rate and bit depth=er...bit depth! I think the point is there is a certain photo resolution which is enough (think about scanning text) and a certain bit-depth that is enough (think about photo of a landscape where

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bits vs. Hertz - Bit depth or sampling rate more important for audio?

2007-10-04 Thread Pale Blue Ego
ezkcdude;232438 Wrote: I'm wondering whether it is 24-bit or maybe got truncated to 16-bit. Does anyone know of a program provides this info? I tried Winamp as well (doesn't do it). Foobar2000 shows the bit depth in the properties sheet of a music file. (right-click and choose Properties)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bits vs. Hertz - Bit depth or sampling rate more important for audio?

2007-10-04 Thread ezkcdude
Cool, I have it and I'll try it. -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't. SHINYMETAL '*Site*' (http://www.ezdiyaudio.com)| '*RSS*' (http://www2.kumc.edu/students/ezamir/rss/ezdiyaudio.xml) |'*Forum*'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My experience implementing John Swenson's Synchronous Reclocking Circuit

2007-10-04 Thread tubesguy
Congrats Mike on getting this done. It's definitely something I've been wanting to do for a while, dating back to John's first post on the forum. I've got an old, but good, DAC that accepts I2S input, and I'd like to take either my SB2 or SB3 to the next level. My problem is that, since I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bits vs. Hertz - Bit depth or sampling rate more important for audio?

2007-10-04 Thread USAudio
I haven't read or could even probably comprehend them but maybe one of Lavry's white papers here might help: http://www.lavryengineering.com/supportpage.html -- USAudio SB3 - PS Audio Digital Link III - PS Audio Trio C-100 - Revel Concerta F12's + SVS SB12-Plus

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My experience implementing John Swenson's Synchronous Reclocking Circuit

2007-10-04 Thread RioTubes
I've attached my board layout based on John's schematic. The only change is that I decided to mount the board vertically in my dac and hence swung the In/Out board connectors down under the ground wire just to the right of the 74 and below the 174. Depending on your dac chip you may or may not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Million dollars to prove cables areworth money

2007-10-04 Thread USAudio
These overpriced Pear cables remind me of a review on Tara Lab's The Zero cables I read in Stereophile. A pair of interconnects for a paltry $15K USD! http://www.stereophile.com/cables/1206tara/index.html ' There are plenty of audiophiles out there who have what's technically referred to as

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Square waves are not very helpful for audio

2007-10-04 Thread ezkcdude
pfarrell;231599 Wrote: But unless you are designing audio gear, I don't see the relevance. The square wave picture on an o'scope provides a great intuitive picture. I think these measurements can provide useful information for buyers. For example, take a look at the 1 kHz and 10 kHz square

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Square waves are not very helpful for audio

2007-10-04 Thread seanadams
ezkcdude;232666 Wrote: I think these measurements can provide useful information for buyers. For example, take a look at the 1 kHz and 10 kHz square waves for the very expensive ($26,600/pr) mbl 9007 monoblocks (tests done by John Atkinson of Stereophile) I'm not saying the MBLs aren't

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Million dollars to prove cables areworth money

2007-10-04 Thread Timothy Stockman
Pat Farrell;232214 Wrote: So you really pushing 30 amps down your speaker wires? :-) Of course, I can't talk much, I've got some Cardas that are probably also 10 gauge. Came bundled with my amp and speakers. Lets see, 30 amps at 4 ohms 30*30*4 = 3600 watts. It's not the current, it's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Square waves are not very helpful for audio

2007-10-04 Thread ezkcdude
Sean, I get everything your saying. Obviously, I don't think people should base their decisions on this one type of test...still, it's interesting, at least. And JA doesn't really give rationale for doing these tests - maybe just because he can? However, if you look at the higher end amps they

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Square waves are not very helpful for audio

2007-10-04 Thread Pat Farrell
ezkcdude wrote: And JA doesn't really give rationale for doing these tests - maybe just because he can? However, if you look at the higher end amps they review, and compare with the relatively lo-fi ones, the square waves are typically produced better by the former. I bet its because it is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Affordable Audio review of SB3

2007-10-04 Thread mister pig
Phil Leigh;232525 Wrote: Pretty much any headphones are capable of revealing more about a recording than speakers can. You can hear things on phones that simply are not apparent otherwise, which is why they are an invaluable recording/mastering tool. As far as the limitations of the Stax

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Personal Introductions: Please Make This a Sticky!

2007-10-04 Thread golfdane
Had an education that involved tons of live musical experiences. My interest for HiFi was spawned when I tweaked my first turntable at the age of 12 or 13. Had to make it less susceptible to vibrations, so I made my own floating suspension using rubber bands. At 14, did I got my first real amp. A

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Affordable Audio review of SB3

2007-10-04 Thread opaqueice
Have you ever listened to a binaural recording over headphones? You'll find yourself looking over your shoulder for the person you heard walking behind you. The illusion is far, far beyond anything I've ever heard with speakers. However there seem to be very few such recordings, for reasons

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Affordable Audio review of SB3

2007-10-04 Thread Robin Bowes
mister pig wrote: I have to disagree with the point of soundstaging being in the mind of the listener. Mister Pig, Our entire auditory system is in the mind - it is one big illusion. Stereo imaging - the ability to tell where in a sound stage an individual sound is coming from - is done

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Affordable Audio review of SB3

2007-10-04 Thread Pat Farrell
opaqueice wrote: Have you ever listened to a binaural recording over headphones? You'll find yourself looking over your shoulder for the person you heard walking behind you. The illusion is far, far beyond anything I've ever heard with speakers. However there seem to be very few such

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Affordable Audio review of SB3

2007-10-04 Thread JJZolx
opaqueice;232749 Wrote: Have you ever listened to a binaural recording over headphones? You'll find yourself looking over your shoulder for the person you heard walking behind you. The illusion is far, far beyond anything I've ever heard with speakers. I've heard that in many good

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Affordable Audio review of SB3

2007-10-04 Thread Pat Farrell
JJZolx wrote: Headphones are nice for some uses, like listening to the iPod while walking the dog, but not for serious listening enjoyment. I can understand you having this opinion, but I disagree that it is universal. Many folks get serious listening enjoyment from headphones. There are

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] First shot at using Inguz

2007-10-04 Thread esbrewer
Just noticed (after finally doing some listening after all this grunt work) that the HF response in the right channel only is way down - to the point where I thought I had possibly blown a tweeter running the sweeps. When set DRC to None - the HF comes right back to the right speaker. Perhaps

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bits vs. Hertz - Bit depth or sampling rate more important for audio?

2007-10-04 Thread ezkcdude
Pale Blue Ego;232598 Wrote: Foobar2000 shows the bit depth in the properties sheet of a music file. (right-click and choose Properties) It worked, the file is 24-bit. Thanks. -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't. SHINYMETAL

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bits vs. Hertz - Bit depth or sampling rate more important for audio?

2007-10-04 Thread pablolie
...mean very little. A high res recording of any kind may still be so lousy that it was not worth recording at that quality. I'll take an old school, good recording at lower resolutions, hiss and all, if it truly ir recorded with musicality and neutrality first in mind. Technology comes in a