Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-09 Thread maxrob200
All cables are unshielded cat 5. The SB3 is powered by a Regulated linear power supply set to 5 volts. All other units run off their own power packs. -- maxrob200 maxrob200's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.p

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I'm really confused

2008-12-09 Thread seanadams
ar-t;368456 Wrote: > > This is one of the most disingenuous marketing ploys that I have ever > seen. I guess that I now have 3 myths to dispel. > > (Sean, if this violates the spirit of your forum, just tell me and I > will shut up...) Haha, by all means go on. :) I think the most import

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I'm really confused

2008-12-09 Thread ar-t
seanadams;368317 Wrote: > The supposed purpose of the product is to somehow resolve impedance > mismatches, which makes no sense to begin with. The marketing material > goes only as far as the following hand-waving: "Impedance matching is a > complex technical issue in audio design." and then pro

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I'm really confused

2008-12-09 Thread Mnyb
NewBuyer;368442 Wrote: > Hi Sean, > > One practical scenario (among others) that benefits from this product, > in my experience, is when using 'Scott Endler's 4k \"shotgun\" > attenuators' (http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4c5pt/id2.html), which > attach directly to the power amplifier. > > When dr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-09 Thread NewBuyer
maxrob200;368410 Wrote: > Sorry I though the post was reasonably clear > No it sounds better with the switch OFF, the only con was a slight drop > in level but less sibilance in voices, better bass, depth and soundstage > but a liitle loss in perceived dynamics, which could be due to less > brigh

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I'm really confused

2008-12-09 Thread NewBuyer
seanadams;368286 Wrote: > ...Back to the original subject of this thread... taking the above into > account, can anyone suggest a practical scenario that would benefit > from this product? I can't. If a line level source device is too weak > to accurately drive a >10K input, then it is quite sim

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I'm really confused

2008-12-09 Thread seanadams
jeffmeh;368425 Wrote: > Thanks all for the great explanations. Can anyone point to a good > layman's definition of impedance? I am math-oriented, but I am not an > electrical engineer, and the definitions I can find on the web seem to > assume much pre-existing electrical engineering knowledge.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I'm really confused

2008-12-09 Thread Pat Farrell
jeffmeh wrote: > Can anyone point to a good layman's definition of impedance? Do you understand "resistance" in an electrical circuit? Its the key to all electrical engineering: V = I R (where I is current in amps, not the square root of -1) Impedance is simply "resistance" in alternating cu

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I'm really confused

2008-12-09 Thread jeffmeh
Thanks all for the great explanations. Can anyone point to a good layman's definition of impedance? I am math-oriented, but I am not an electrical engineer, and the definitions I can find on the web seem to assume much pre-existing electrical engineering knowledge. Many thanks. -- jeffmeh --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I'm really confused

2008-12-09 Thread DCtoDaylight
seanadams;368286 Wrote: > So what happens in each case if you get it wrong? > > Line levels: if the receiving device has a low input impedance (in > which case it is probably defective) or if the transmitting device has > a high impedance, what happens is that the signal becomes attenuated > Th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-09 Thread maxrob200
Sorry I though the post was reasonably clear No it sounds better with the switch OFF, the only con was a slight drop in level but less sibilance in voices, better bass, depth and soundstage but a liitle loss in perceived dynamics, which could be due to less brighness(sibilance) Swithched ON, it wa

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-09 Thread mswlogo
maxrob200;368381 Wrote: > Hi NIck, > > Done the listening test by playing with switch connected and then > pulling the power from it and allowing buffered music to play. > All playback equipment has been playing for at least 2 hours before > test to ensure adequate warm-up time. > > With power

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-09 Thread maxrob200
Hi NIck, Done the listening test by playing with switch connected and then pulling the power from it and allowing buffered music to play. All playback equipment has been playing for at least 2 hours before test to ensure adequate warm-up time. With power OFF to the switch there was a slight drop

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interesting Articles in The Absolute Sound

2008-12-09 Thread tomjtx
marc0716;368291 Wrote: > itunes and hifi should never be mentioned in the same sentence. WAV > files from my qsonix blow anything from either of those interfaces out > of the water... Nothing you have said so far is accurate. You are simply showing your rather large ignorance of computer based

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interesting Articles in The Absolute Sound

2008-12-09 Thread Themis
Great... after the bots spamming, we have human spammers too. Oh well. :( -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I'm really confused

2008-12-09 Thread Themis
seanadams;368317 Wrote: > The supposed purpose of the product is to somehow resolve impedance > mismatches, which makes no sense to begin with. The marketing material > goes only as far as the following hand-waving: "Impedance matching is a > complex technical issue in audio design." and then pro

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I'm really confused

2008-12-09 Thread seanadams
The supposed purpose of the product is to somehow resolve impedance mismatches, which makes no sense to begin with. The marketing material goes only as far as the following hand-waving: "Impedance matching is a complex technical issue in audio design." and then proceeds to bemoan the failure of ma

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Absolute Sound reviews AppleTV and Squeezebox Duet

2008-12-09 Thread snarlydwarf
marc0716;368308 Wrote: > your right it's state your opinion forum which is all i have done... No, if you look at the top of the page, it says "Squeezebox : Community : Forums"... Your posts have nothing to do with Squeezebox, or the SB community. It's not a free speech forum: it is for the Squ

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Absolute Sound reviews AppleTV and Squeezebox Duet

2008-12-09 Thread marc0716
snarlydwarf;368306 Wrote: > then go enjoy it. > > this is not the "spam advertising for qsonix forum" ... in fact, it > makes you and qsonix look like spammers. your right it's state your opinion forum which is all i have done... -- marc0716 --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interesting Articles in The Absolute Sound

2008-12-09 Thread snarlydwarf
marc0716;368297 Wrote: > can i be both? An uninformed troll? Sure. But go shill your wares elsewhere. It is incredibly tacky to use someone else's forums for your advertising. Hint: using someone else's resources to repeatedly advertise your product is called spamming. Do you think Qsonix a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Absolute Sound reviews AppleTV and Squeezebox Duet

2008-12-09 Thread marc0716
snarlydwarf;368299 Wrote: > Lord, how much is Qsonix paying you to shill their products? They are paying me in joy for using the system :) -- marc0716 marc0716's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Absolute Sound reviews AppleTV and Squeezebox Duet

2008-12-09 Thread snarlydwarf
marc0716;368290 Wrote: > Qsonix is Lord, how much is Qsonix paying you to shill their products? -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interesting Articles in The Absolute Sound

2008-12-09 Thread marc0716
darrenyeats;368293 Wrote: > Hehe. I see you're very new to this forum. I'm assuming either you're a > troll or just new to the whole computer audio thing, in which case > firstly I ask forgiveness for thinking you might be a troll and > secondly I suggest you go surf the web for more information

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interesting Articles in The Absolute Sound

2008-12-09 Thread marc0716
radish;368283 Wrote: > Why not? The server is irrelevant in a squeezebox setup and I wouldn't > be at all afraid to put a TP up against a Qsonix, or anything else. > Then I'd have $6K left to buy more music :) maybe/ maybe not... Truthfully, Qsonix is about the user experience and and the flawl

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I'm really confused

2008-12-09 Thread Themis
seanadams;368286 Wrote: > Impedance is almost never at issue in this case. Maybe I can clear up > some of the confusion: > > ** Line-level interconnection (ie analog RCA or XLR cables): You should > have a low impedance output (eg 100Ω) driving a high impedance > input (eg 10,000Ω).* The exact n

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interesting Articles in The Absolute Sound

2008-12-09 Thread darrenyeats
marc0716;368291 Wrote: > itunes and hifi should never be mentioned in the same sentence. WAV > files from my qsonix blow anything from either of those interfaces out > of the water... Hehe. I see you're very new to this forum. I'm assuming either you're a troll or just new to the whole computer a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interesting Articles in The Absolute Sound

2008-12-09 Thread marc0716
darrenyeats;368277 Wrote: > Marc, you're not convincing me...anyone can do that with iTunes, > Logitech, etc. Welcome to the computer age of hifi. > Darren itunes and hifi should never be mentioned in the same sentence. WAV files from my qsonix blow anything from either of those interfaces out o

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Absolute Sound reviews AppleTV and Squeezebox Duet

2008-12-09 Thread marc0716
Pale Blue Ego;318179 Wrote: > I believe Denon just introduced a $500 gold-plated ethernet cable. > > As for The Absolute Sound, I've actually been very impressed with the > way they've embraced file-based playback as a serious emerging trend. > It's just funny to see them approach it from a poi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I'm really confused

2008-12-09 Thread seanadams
jeffmeh;368171 Wrote: > Thanks Dave and Clive. Buffer to boost, attenuator to attenuate I > missed the obvious notion that the impedance mismatch is not always a > case of a source with output that is too hot for the target input. Impedance is almost never at issue in this case. Maybe I ca

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interesting Articles in The Absolute Sound

2008-12-09 Thread radish
marc0716;368269 Wrote: > Your cheap PC won't sound like my Qsonix Why not? The server is irrelevant in a squeezebox setup and I wouldn't be at all afraid to put a TP up against a Qsonix, or anything else. Then I'd have $6K left to buy more music :) -- radish --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interesting Articles in The Absolute Sound

2008-12-09 Thread slimkid
marc0716;368269 Wrote: > ... don't think im attacking you please. i'm just sharing my opinion. No, you are not attacking people around here. You are attacking common sense, logic, engineering knowledge and some more things, rapidly degrading you own credibility in the process. K -- slimkid

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interesting Articles in The Absolute Sound

2008-12-09 Thread darrenyeats
marc0716;368269 Wrote: > Given the ability to locate any song at any split second in my > collection of 2000+ CDs is amazing. Marc, you're not convincing me...anyone can do that with iTunes, Logitech, etc. Welcome to the computer age of hifi. Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz -> Krell KAV-300

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interesting Articles in The Absolute Sound

2008-12-09 Thread marc0716
jt25741;246624 Wrote: > Those Qsonix boxes just look (to me :)) like a frivolous waste of > money considering what we can do with Slim stuff for instance and a > cheap PC. As a Qsonix end user i have to disagree with your opinion. While it is a higher price point then what you mentioned it'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] External DAC recommendation

2008-12-09 Thread darrenyeats
auronthas;368093 Wrote: > > I have done a lot of speaker positioning and have found several > favorite spots with marking. I am looking at room acoustic treatment > too. Intend to add a wool curtain at the back of my listening chair to > prevent the sound travelling down to grond floor via void/

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I'm really confused

2008-12-09 Thread jeffmeh
Thanks Dave and Clive. Buffer to boost, attenuator to attenuate I missed the obvious notion that the impedance mismatch is not always a case of a source with output that is too hot for the target input. -- jeffmeh je

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I'm really confused

2008-12-09 Thread cliveb
jeffmeh;367975 Wrote: > In the case of an impedance mismatch, what are the comparative > advantages of a buffer over a passive attenuator? I assume that the > buffer will be much more expensive. An impedance mismatch is usually a case of a high impedance driving a low impedance. Adding passive a